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[Opus Angelorum]

When does it come out in the UK then?

http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/coming-soon/htc-desire/

 

[Stat Flow]

3 Phones is a disappointment, but I got the Bravo, fuck American Markets, I'll be importing from Europe (I don't need 3G, I'm in Wifi almost all the time anyway).

 

[iapetus]

The Nexus One, HTC Desire

[...]

Each one is so different from the last, however, so it comes down to carrier and personal preference.

Actually, these two are practically the same device, aren't they?

 

[Opus Angelorum]

Actually, these two are practically the same device, aren't they?

Indeed, with the exception of the trackball the hardware specification is identical.

 

[SimleuqiR]

Actually, these two are practically the same device, aren't they?

The Desire has a bit more ram I believe, physical navigation keys vs touch base ones, and a digital pad vs the Nexus trackball. But the LED trackball does have it's notification advantages.

One of the most important aspects of the Nexus One is that to a degree it's Google's baby. Most, if not all, Android core OS updates will come to it first (and some extra stuff Google might want to add). That's probably one of the main reasons I bought it.

 

[Jayge]

Shouldn't this all really be in an Android Hardware 2010 thread at this point?

 

[Ephemeris]

Glad to hear they were demo'ing flash on Android.

6:17PM Full Flash 10.1 experience -- not Flash Lite. In practice, that means that you'll get hardware-accelerated compatibility with pretty much any Flash applet you encounter on the interwebs.

6:14PM Flash on Android. He's demoing the New York Times -- "as you can see, all the components are there." We see what you're doing, Erick. Very clever.

 

[Vyse The Legend]

Actually, these two are practically the same device, aren't they?

Yeah, I meant to put a "/" between them. They're, more or less, the same.

 

[Pimpwerx]

If the Supersonic is the only android phone Sprint picks up by Summer I'm gonna be pissed. Why people need screens bigger than 3.7" on a phone is beyond me.

I'd be annoyed because (a) it means we've been saddled with the Hero and Moment for far too long. It also means that Sprint is getting outfoxed by T-Mo and Verizon, and it's only a matter of time before AT&T passes them. We've only got two Android phones, so AT&T doesn't have a lot of ground to cover. FFS, Sprint, you have the best damn network with the best rates. I'd take a new phone unsubsidized if nothing else. Tell Palm to go shove it. PEACE.

 

[BoboBrazil]

Sprint is really lagging behind everyone else. The only new phones we've gotten this year are the Rumor Touch that is coming next month and the Lotus 2. Are we supposed to get excited for this bullshit? Sprint has fallen to last place in phones. ATT has the benefit of atleast being able to use T-mobile phones or phones from overseas. Atleast show a new Web OS phone if you are in bed with Palm. Sprint really needs to get their head out of their ass.

 

[tokkun]

Indeed, with the exception of the trackball the hardware specification is identical.

Does the Desire have 512MB of RAM?

 

[Paznos]

Does the Desire have 512MB of RAM?

512MB ROM/576MB RAM

 

[tokkun]

512MB ROM/576MB RAM

Cool, so they did change the hw spec from the original Bravo leak.

 

[Ephemeris]

http://twitter.com/sprint/status/9189584357

Android update! Upgrades to 2.1 for Hero/Moment now expected early 2Q10. Currently working through options for upgrades w/ HTC and Samsung.

Hopefully my Eris could get some 2.1 Sense loving sometime in March.

 

[Jayge]

I'd be annoyed because (a) it means we've been saddled with the Hero and Moment for far too long. It also means that Sprint is getting outfoxed by T-Mo and Verizon, and it's only a matter of time before AT&T passes them. We've only got two Android phones, so AT&T doesn't have a lot of ground to cover. FFS, Sprint, you have the best damn network with the best rates. I'd take a new phone unsubsidized if nothing else. Tell Palm to go shove it. PEACE.

Not only that, but the Hero was bested by the Droid Eris before it even had a chance, and Sprint is still charging more for a Hero + 2 year contract (more than double, actually) than Verizon is for the Eris (although Verizon is more expensive on its own) even after all this time. If I could buy an unlocked Eris I probably would and then I'd sit and wait on Sprint for a while until they got a phone I really wanted, but the American phone market is balls.

 

[Moundir&Tony>you]

http://twitter.com/sprint/status/9189584357



Hopefully my Eris could get some 2.1 Sense loving sometime in March.

Early second quarter ?

 

[Pimpwerx]

http://twitter.com/sprint/status/9189584357



Hopefully my Eris could get some 2.1 Sense loving sometime in March.

So much for March. PEACE.

EDIT: I thought I posted this yesterday, but I guess I didn't. I'm gonna root my phone, the wait is just unbearable. Any links to instructions on rooting a Sprint Hero? All I see are GSM guides. Also, any suggested ROMs, or is Cyanogen's latest pretty much the bog standard?

 

[BoboBrazil]

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=CDMA Hero Guides

That is all you need

 

[Dead Prince]

Engadget's Hands on with Notion Ink's Adam.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/16/notion-ink-adam-hands-on-with-video-at-mwc-2010/

there will indeed be two versions of the Adam -- one which will be 12.9 mm thick and boast the Pixel Qi 3Qi e-paper screen, and another, thinner, non-Pixel Qi screen. The thinner, lighter version will measure in at 11.6 mm thick. As far as we know, the only difference in the two Tegra-powered Adams will be the display, and we also hear they are shooting for a third quarter of 2010 launch.

.

Obvious choice is the 12.9mm <3

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Engadget's Hands on with Notion Ink's Adam.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/16/notion-ink-adam-hands-on-with-video-at-mwc-2010/

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Obvious choice is the 12.9mm <3

Thanks for posting this.

Edit- Awww third quarter? They said before it'd be in June.

Shouldn't this all really be in an Android Hardware 2010 thread at this point?

Should be, but isn't. Please forgive the delay, lots of phones (and non-phones) have been added onto the stack lately.

 

[Dead Prince]

Can preorder Motorola Devour at Best Buy.
Full Press Release
http://www.businesswire.com/portal/...d=news_view&newsId=20100216005955&newsLang=en

Best Buy Mobile Announces Launch and Pre-Sale of Motorola DEVOUR™ with MOTOBLUR™

The Motorola DEVOUR™ Will Land in Best Buy and Best Buy Mobile Standalone Stores February 25, With an In-Store Pre-Sale Starting February 16

MINNEAPOLIS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Consumers who are looking to purchase the new Motorola DEVOUR™ can do so at Best Buy and Best Buy Mobile standalone stores beginning February 25. The Motorola DEVOUR™ is the third smartphone from Verizon Wireless that runs on Google’s innovative Android operating platform and the first Verizon Wireless phone to feature MOTOBLUR™.

“We saw great response with the DROID by Motorola, the first Android device for Verizon Wireless, and we expect the same response with the Motorola DEVOUR™. Our employees get really excited for these big smartphone launches and we are looking forward to helping bring the Motorola DEVOUR™ to the marketplace.”
To support the launch of this highly anticipated device, Best Buy Mobile is hosting a pre-sale beginning February 16. Consumers can take advantage of the in-store pre-sale by visiting their local Best Buy or Best Buy Mobile standalone store where they can schedule a pick-up time after February 25 and reserve their spot by purchasing a $50 Best Buy Gift Card.

Customers who purchase the Motorola DEVOUR™ at Best Buy Mobile can avoid the hassle of mail-in rebates with instant savings applied at the point of purchase and can walk out working with access to their email, contacts and favorite content set up by a Best Buy Mobile sales associate.

“Being one of the first retailers to feature the Motorola DEVOUR™ is a win-win for Best Buy Mobile and our valued customers,” said Scott Moore, VP of marketing for Best Buy Mobile. “We saw great response with the DROID by Motorola, the first Android device for Verizon Wireless, and we expect the same response with the Motorola DEVOUR™. Our employees get really excited for these big smartphone launches and we are looking forward to helping bring the Motorola DEVOUR™ to the marketplace.”

Motorola DEVOUR™ features include the following:

MOTOBLUR™, Motorola’s unique Android™-powered content delivery service
Happenings Widget – MOTOBLUR automatically pushes status updates, wall posts and photo updates from popular social networking sites to the Happenings Widget on user’s home screen
Universal Inbox – MOTOBLUR gathers texts, social network messages and e-mails into one home screen widget for quick response
3.1” touch screen
Pre-loaded applications such as Gmail, Google Talk™, YouTube™, Google Search™ and Google Maps™ with Google Maps Navigation
Through Android Market™ provides access to more than 20,000 applications
Best Buy Mobile, the mobile specialty retail unit of Best Buy Co., was founded on a simple customer promise that serves to improve the shopping experience for customers every day of the year by delivering:

A better choice of mobile devices and networks
Impartial, informed advice
Straightforward pricing
Someone to be there for the life of your phone
To learn more about Best Buy Mobile or read the most up-to-date news, trends and information on mobile products, visit www.BestBuyMobile.com.

About Best Buy Mobile

Best Buy Mobile features one of the largest selections of carriers, handsets and accessories available anywhere, as well as a highly-trained staff to help customers make the most of their mobile phones. Best Buy Mobile locations feature more than 90 different handsets from nine carriers, and over 130 accessories. Employees undergo at least 80 hours of intensive training, as well as continuing education on mobile phone technology and trends. Look for your mobile phone solution at Best Buy Mobile locations in every Best Buy store as well as in standalone stores nationwide.

About Best Buy Co., Inc.

With operations in the United States, Canada, Europe, China and Mexico, Best Buy is a multinational retailer of technology and entertainment products and services with a commitment to growth and innovation. The Best Buy family of brands and partnerships collectively generates more than $45 billion in annual revenue and includes brands such as Best Buy; Audiovisions; The Carphone Warehouse; Future Shop; Geek Squad, Jiangsu Five Star; Magnolia Audio Video; Napster; Pacific Sales; The Phone House; and Speakeasy. Approximately 155,000 employees apply their talents to help bring the benefits of these brands to life for customers through retail locations, multiple call centers and Web sites, in-home solutions, product delivery and activities in our communities. Community partnership is central to the way we do business at Best Buy. In fiscal 2009, we donated a combined $33.4 million to improve the vitality of the communities where our employees and customers live and work. For more information about Best Buy, visit www.bestbuy.com.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Verizon's really stepping their game up. Instead of resting on their laurels of being the biggest US carrier and best for 3G, they're actively pursuing attractive smartphones and are being open about it (their Skype deal.)

 

[SimleuqiR]

Verizon's really stepping their game up. Instead of resting on their laurels of being the biggest US carrier and best for 3G, they're actively pursuing attractive smartphones and are being open about it (their Skype deal.)

They are still expensive as fuck! I just hope they don't kill any of the other three providers with their leverage. I don't want one Ma'Bell company controlling the USA wireless map.

 

[Jayge]

Thanks for posting this.

Edit- Awww third quarter? They said before it'd be in June.



Should be, but isn't. Please forgive the delay, lots of phones (and non-phones) have been added onto the stack lately.

Oh don't worry about it, lord knows I'm far too lazy to produce anything like this, I was just wondering if there was going to be a new one :lol

 

[ThatObviousUser]

They are still expensive as fuck! I just hope they don't kill any of the other three providers with their leverage. I don't want one Ma'Bell company controlling the USA wireless map.

Well they're unlimited everything dropped to $69 (to combat AT&T's, I think), but yeah, they're expensive.

 

[Outdoor Miner]

Which US provider will be offering the HTC Legend?

 

[DrFunk]

Which US provider will be offering the HTC Legend?

reeealllly to early to tell. if you want it badly enough, you can always buy it unlocked, and use it with AT&T and T-Mobile

 

[WanderingWind]

So, Google has failed me yet again.

I have a T-Mobile MyTouch (don't know what the actual name is) and I like Android, and love the touch screen, but I really miss a physical keyboard.

Is there a phone like the Droid that I can use with a T-Mobile SIM card with those features? And yes, I know next to nothing about phones and phone related technology.

 

[gcubed]

They are still expensive as fuck! I just hope they don't kill any of the other three providers with their leverage. I don't want one Ma'Bell company controlling the USA wireless map.

you'll never be down to one, they dont have THAT much more leverage

 

[DrFunk]

So, Google has failed me yet again.

I have a T-Mobile MyTouch (don't know what the actual name is) and I like Android, and love the touch screen, but I really miss a physical keyboard.

Is there a phone like the Droid that I can use with a T-Mobile SIM card with those features? And yes, I know next to nothing about phones and phone related technology.

Motorola Milestone, which is the GSM (SIM card) version of the Droid

 

[Pimpwerx]

Which US provider will be offering the HTC Legend?

I don't know, but I bet you can cross Sprint off that list. PEACE.

EDIT: Thanks for the Wiki link, BoboBrazil. Looks like I got something to do tonight.

 

[BlueMagic]

Why would anyone buy a G1 at this point? I legitimately want to know. There are just... so many better options now.

Well, as it turns out, the only Android phone that has officially landed on Argentina is the Milestone, which is 300 US$ with a shitty, shitty plan. Every single other Android device never even saw the light here. The only way to get them is ordering them unlocked, via the internet or something. Considering the shipping, customs fee, etc, you end up paying about 500-600 US$ for an unlocked G1. You can imagine how much a Nexus One is, unlocked (hint: it's more than 1000 US$).

So if anyone is kind enough to sell me a better android device for a good price, let me know.

Though I got a nice deal on this used G1, about 250 US$ with a couple of extras. It's from a guy that used to live in the USA.

Also, any tips for the phone?

 

[WanderingWind]

Motorola Milestone, which is the GSM (SIM card) version of the Droid

Sweet. Thanks!

 

[MrPliskin]

Okay, I'm out of my element here, being a HUGE WebOS 'fanboy', but my Roommate is looking for a new phone.

He's a Verizon Subscriber, so I recommended the Pre Plus (bias total). He's not really into the phone (hasn't used it though) but he's interested in the Android phones, obviosly the ones that Verizon offers.

So, do you guy's have any recommendations? I don't know much about the OS (pro's, cons, etc) so I'm looking for guidance to give him a good idea of what he's getting.

WebOS Fanboy, out.

 

[gimmmick]

So, Google has failed me yet again.

I have a T-Mobile MyTouch (don't know what the actual name is) and I like Android, and love the touch screen, but I really miss a physical keyboard.

Is there a phone like the Droid that I can use with a T-Mobile SIM card with those features? And yes, I know next to nothing about phones and phone related technology.

Wouldn't you mean HTC has failed you since it is the manufacture of the mytouch 3g?

 

[Jayge]

Well, as it turns out, the only Android phone that has officially landed on Argentina is the Milestone, which is 300 US$ with a shitty, shitty plan. Every single other Android device never even saw the light here. The only way to get them is ordering them unlocked, via the internet or something. Considering the shipping, customs fee, etc, you end up paying about 500-600 US$ for an unlocked G1. You can imagine how much a Nexus One is, unlocked (hint: it's more than 1000 US$).

So if anyone is kind enough to sell me a better android device for a good price, let me know.

Though I got a nice deal on this used G1, about 250 US$ with a couple of extras. It's from a guy that used to live in the USA.

Also, any tips for the phone?

Ah. That makes a lot of sense. A friend of mine with the G1 said that his screen got scratched up pretty badly in his pocket after a week or two, so I'd get some screen protectors (I don't think the G1 is made of gorilla glass or any other special type although I'm not sure).

 

[SimleuqiR]

Well, as it turns out, the only Android phone that has officially landed on Argentina is the Milestone, which is 300 US$ with a shitty, shitty plan. Every single other Android device never even saw the light here. The only way to get them is ordering them unlocked, via the internet or something. Considering the shipping, customs fee, etc, you end up paying about 500-600 US$ for an unlocked G1. You can imagine how much a Nexus One is, unlocked (hint: it's more than 1000 US$).

So if anyone is kind enough to sell me a better android device for a good price, let me know.

Though I got a nice deal on this used G1, about 250 US$ with a couple of extras. It's from a guy that used to live in the USA.

Also, any tips for the phone?

The good thing about the G1 is that due to it being out for a while you will find all sorts of stuff, hacks, mods for it.

Start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=446

 

[WanderingWind]

Wouldn't you mean HTC has failed you since it is the manufacture of the mytouch 3g?

Heh. No, I meant as in I couldn't find the answer with Google. I'm cool with the MyTouch. It does everything it was advertised to do. I just really miss the keyboard.

 

[Paznos]

Okay, I'm out of my element here, being a HUGE WebOS 'fanboy', but my Roommate is looking for a new phone.

He's a Verizon Subscriber, so I recommended the Pre Plus (bias total). He's not really into the phone (hasn't used it though) but he's interested in the Android phones, obviosly the ones that Verizon offers.

So, do you guy's have any recommendations? I don't know much about the OS (pro's, cons, etc) so I'm looking for guidance to give him a good idea of what he's getting.

WebOS Fanboy, out.

Well with Verizon the only Android choices atm are the Motorola Droid which is a pretty cool phone with a physical QWERTY keyboard but wish the layout of the keys were spaced it's kind of hard to type without pressing other keys.

And the other phone is the HTC Droid Eris, Verizon's version of the HTC Hero, it has a smaller screen than the Motorola Droid 3.2" vs the Droid's 3.7" and also has lower specs than the Droid.

The phone I'm holding out for on Verizon is either the Nexus One or Verizon's version of the HTC Desire(IMO), the HTC Incredible both will most likely be out in the Spring, hopefully sooner.

 

[Totakeke]

HTC Desire only has one mic compared to the Nexus One which has two for better voice recognition.

 

[mj1108]

HTC Desire only has one mic compared to the Nexus One which has two for better voice recognition.

The second mic on the Nexus One (on the back) is actually for noise cancellation.

 

[El Papa]

The second mic on the Nexus One (on the back) is actually for noise cancellation.

Actually, it's for noise isolation. Ooooo burn technical dorkgeeks r us!

 

[Totakeke]

The second mic on the Nexus One (on the back) is actually for noise cancellation.

Which helps in better voice recognition?

Actually, it's for noise isolation. Ooooo burn technical dorkgeeks r us!

Actually it's for noise suppression.

 

[Vanillalite]

The Desire looks HAWT!

I like the look of the one Sony X10 mini, but I hate the fact that all the X10s seem to be running 1.6, and they aren't even out yet.

Honestly this in general is what bugs me most about the android platform. I just wish updates came out faster, and more more mandatory. I think everything at this point should be running 2.0 +.

 

[sun-drop]

x10 has come a long way, pretty dam responsive now:

http://www.slashgear.com/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10-hands-on-1674328/

funny seeing every1 spooge over winmo7 ..when x10 was doing the all yr data in one place thing already ..and ppl ragged on it. i prefer the deck of cards to having to scroll landscapes.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

The Desire looks HAWT!

I like the look of the one Sony X10 mini, but I hate the fact that all the X10s seem to be running 1.6, and they aren't even out yet.

Honestly this in general is what bugs me most about the android platform. I just wish updates came out faster, and more more mandatory. I think everything at this point should be running 2.0 +.

What's odd is everything is skipping to Android 2.1. Even the Samsung Moment and the freaking ODROID are getting 2.1. I don't know what happened, maybe Google said to the manufacturers "You guys should update to 2.1 now," or maybe they promised they wouldn't release a new version for a while, or something, but tons of devices are getting 2.1 soon.

And 1.6 isn't so bad. It has widgets, it has resolution support, is has the new Android Market, it has universal search, and lots of other features.

 

[kaching]

or maybe they promised they wouldn't release a new version for a while, or something,

That doesn't seem to be the case though with Froyo in the wings, rumor of 2.2 in at least one upcoming device and the fact Flash support is apparently imminent, according to reports from MWC.

I can't really see Google slowing down on iterations for awhile yet, unless there's some tangible backlash from customers over the pace at which their phones become "obsolete".

 

[Dead Prince]

What's odd is everything is skipping to Android 2.1. Even the Samsung Moment and the freaking ODROID are getting 2.1. I don't know what happened, maybe Google said to the manufacturers "You guys should update to 2.1 now," or maybe they promised they wouldn't release a new version for a while, or something, but tons of devices are getting 2.1 soon.

And 1.6 isn't so bad. It has widgets, it has resolution support, is has the new Android Market, it has universal search, and lots of other features.

if someone buys the x10 with 1.6 they can update to 2.1 when it's out? like OTA or something?

 

[Totakeke]

if someone buys the x10 with 1.6 they can update to 2.1 when it's out? like OTA or something?

The issue is when would it be out. The hardware manufacturers themselves have to implement the new versions and release the update before you can update your phone.


Which is why I think it's just better to get a phone from Google directly from now on especially if you want up to date features, unless you have other specific needs in mind.

 

[Dead Prince]

The issue is when would it be out. The hardware manufacturers themselves have to implement the new versions and release the update before you can update your phone.


Which is why I think it's just better to get a phone from Google directly from now on especially if you want up to date features, unless you have other specific needs in mind.

the sexy factor :lol.