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[nubbe]

Snapdragons 3D part is more powerful than SGX.
Just bend over already

 

[Totakeke]

Really? i thought droid had a power vr gpu with 400mhz freq.....besides the 600mhz cpu.

Well, true, I don't actually know how those two different specs compare on actual performance. You have extra graphics processing power but you lose on the processor speed on snapdragon equipped X10. But that aside, the screen is larger and the camera is much better which I presume to be not that cheap.

Edit: Or we can just trust what he said.

 

[tokkun]

So wait for the Passion or whatever inevitable HTC Snapdragon Android device comes out in the next couple months.

-Price will be lower than the X10
-HTC has better UI designers
-You get all the HTC enhancements like pinch-to-zoom, the awesome OSK, and all the HTC widgets
-Your device will be easier to root and will get support for custom ROMs from xda-developers
-Passion is rumored to be available in CDMA, whereas the X10 will almost certainly be GSM-only. 3G CDMA network coverage is much better in the US.
-HTC has a better history of providing long-term support for their devices than SE.

 

[Totakeke]

So wait for the Passion or whatever inevitable HTC Snapdragon Android device comes out in the next couple months.

-Price will be lower than the X10
-HTC has better UI designers
-You get all the HTC enhancements like pinch-to-zoom, the awesome OSK, and all the HTC widgets
-Your device will be easier to root and will get support for custom ROMs from xda-developers
-Passion is rumored to be available in CDMA, whereas the X10 will almost certainly be GSM-only. 3G CDMA network coverage is much better in the US.
-HTC has a better history of providing long-term support for their devices than SE.

I agree except HTC Sense is still not as tightly integrated with Android (7 home screens for example with no quick way to go through them, widgets themselves are nice but not enough space on stock homescreen) and the hardware design is so many leagues apart from what little we've seen of the HTC Dragon/Passion. ;/

 

[MThanded]

I agree except HTC Sense is still not as tightly integrated with Android (7 home screens for example with no quick way to go through them, widgets themselves are nice but not enough space on stock homescreen) and the hardware design is so many leagues apart from what little we've seen of the HTC Dragon/Passion. ;/

huh

 

[blitz64]

I just bought an HTC Eris from Verizon. Not much love for eris around here, not even an official thread.

Looking at verizonwireless.com, There are 8 times more customer reviews for droid than eris. They both launch at the same time. So I guess 8:1 ratio sales ratio...

If Droid has sold 200k in 1 week, so Eris sold 25k. Those droid marketing ads are working.

 

[Totakeke]

huh

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you have to swipe through all homescreens one by one to go through all of them? I thought that was one of the complaints people had when HTC Hero came out. HTC Sense on WM has a small scroll bar with big icons so you can switch between different screens easily.

 

[Mango Positive]

I just bought an HTC Eris from Verizon. Not much love for eris around here, not even an official thread.

Looking at verizonwireless.com, There are 8 times more customer reviews for droid than eris. They both launch at the same time. So I guess 8:1 ratio sales ratio...

If Droid has sold 200k in 1 week, so Eris sold 25k. Those droid marketing ads are working.

Yeah... plus 2 Droids in my home today. It wasn't even the ad... I just wanted a smart phone without switching away from Verizon.

 

[~Devil Trigger~]

I just bought an HTC Eris from Verizon. Not much love for eris around here, not even an official thread.

Looking at verizonwireless.com, There are 8 times more customer reviews for droid than eris. They both launch at the same time. So I guess 8:1 ratio sales ratio...

If Droid has sold 200k in 1 week, so Eris sold 25k. Those droid marketing ads are working.

im old school with my...umm....texting

thats the only reason i did'nt order it, i likes my qwerty

 

[El Papa]

I just bought an HTC Eris from Verizon. Not much love for eris around here, not even an official thread.

Looking at verizonwireless.com, There are 8 times more customer reviews for droid than eris. They both launch at the same time. So I guess 8:1 ratio sales ratio...

If Droid has sold 200k in 1 week, so Eris sold 25k. Those droid marketing ads are working.

My girl and I saw the Eris at Best Buy. She really like it, especially how slim it is. I liked it as well.

 

[Pctx]

So has that been somewhat confirmed?

Couple of links for your reading pleasure....
http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/windows-mobile-midnight-madness/
http://www.tmonews.com/2009/11/htc-hd2-confirmed-for-us-carrier-t-mobile-anyone/

Those waiting for an Android only release of the rumored "Snapdragon" will probably have to wait 6 months or so after this beast is let out of the gate. (again, that's my guess based on the chatter this phone is creating and HTC wanting to support WM.)

 

[tokkun]

Those waiting for an Android only release of the rumored "Snapdragon" will probably have to wait 6 months or so after this beast is let out of the gate. (again, that's my guess based on the chatter this phone is creating and HTC wanting to support WM.)

Well the rumor BoyGeniusReport was floating was for a mid-December release for HTC Passion - actually earlier than the HD2.
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/11/10/picture-of-the-htc-passion-dragons-screen/

I personally don't believe that the Passion will simply be an HD2 with Android. I think it will be a different phone design but will use a Snapdragon platform.

 

[Hawkian]

I just bought an HTC Eris from Verizon. Not much love for eris around here, not even an official thread.

There's an official thread for the HTC Hero, right? It may have a different chassis, but that's the same rig under there.

 

[Pctx]

Well the rumor BoyGeniusReport was floating was for a mid-December release for HTC Passion - actually earlier than the HD2.
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/11/10/picture-of-the-htc-passion-dragons-screen/

I personally don't believe that the Passion will simply be an HD2 with Android. I think it will be a different phone design but will use a Snapdragon platform.

Yeah I've seen that report as well. It all depends on the carriers and who gets what. If Verizon gets the HD2 w/ Android 2.0 ("Passion") then that's a pretty big scoop for them.

 

[XMonkey]

A phone with the Eris' form-factor, running Android 2.0, and the internal specs of a Droid is my dream phone right now (on Verizon at least).

 

[Husker86]

I suppose you've never seen Android hacked to run on Windows phones then.

I have, I thought you were referring to an actual prototype.

 

[Manmademan]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you have to swipe through all homescreens one by one to go through all of them? I thought that was one of the complaints people had when HTC Hero came out. HTC Sense on WM has a small scroll bar with big icons so you can switch between different screens easily.

No that's not correct. There are 7 screens, but the one in the center is the "home" screen.

There's a button that snaps you back to center no matter what screen you are on, so there's never a need to swipe through all screens, though if you really want to, its pretty fluid and very quick via the trackball

 

[h_a_t]

Couple of links for your reading pleasure....
http://www.tmonews.com/2009/10/windows-mobile-midnight-madness/
http://www.tmonews.com/2009/11/htc-hd2-confirmed-for-us-carrier-t-mobile-anyone/

Those waiting for an Android only release of the rumored "Snapdragon" will probably have to wait 6 months or so after this beast is let out of the gate. (again, that's my guess based on the chatter this phone is creating and HTC wanting to support WM.)

Well the rumor BoyGeniusReport was floating was for a mid-December release for HTC Passion - actually earlier than the HD2.
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/11/10/picture-of-the-htc-passion-dragons-screen/

I personally don't believe that the Passion will simply be an HD2 with Android. I think it will be a different phone design but will use a Snapdragon platform.

mmmhhhh...
I hope there's some definitive information regarding a release date of an Android HD2 phone on Verizon by December.
If the plan is for it not to be released until at least mid-to-late summer, I'll probably get a Droid.

 

[Totakeke]

No that's not correct. There are 7 screens, but the one in the center is the "home" screen.

There's a button that snaps you back to center no matter what screen you are on, so there's never a need to swipe through all screens, though if you really want to, its pretty fluid and very quick via the trackball

What do you call them if not homescreens then?

Maybe I wasn't clear enough, but that's pretty much the same thing. You cannot access the 7th screen without transitioning through at least another two. That's two swipes on the minimum if you start in the middle. Unless the trackball lets you "skip" the screens if you swipe on it hard enough?

 

[Bad_Boy]

A phone with the Eris' form-factor, running Android 2.0, and the internal specs of a Droid is my dream phone right now (on Verizon at least).

Wait for the rumored Droid Tablet then. a QWERTY-less Droid, with a better camera, and 720p video support.

 

[jonnybryce]

The home button takes you the the middle 4th screen, then you swipe right or left or roll the ball right or left. There's no shortcuts, but it's not an annoyance, I thought it would be but it's not. Plus you can have multiple scenes to have the most important setup for what you're doing, and obviously you put what's most important closer to the middle, my 1st and 7th page are widgets and things I don't visit nearly as much as the others, but still like to have. Sure, the photo album widget is cool but it's not high priority so the speed dial widget and facebook widget go before it.

 

[tokkun]

mmmhhhh...
I hope there's some definitive information regarding a release date of an Android HD2 phone on Verizon by December.
If the plan is for it not to be released until at least mid-to-late summer, I'll probably get a Droid.

Some people have a theory that Verizon doesn't want the phone announced until at least 30 days after the release of the Droid, so the Droid & Eris customers that bought during the first week are not tempted to return their phones.

So I would say that if you don't hear anything by mid-December, go ahead and get the Droid.

 

[Totakeke]

The home button takes you the the middle 4th screen, then you swipe right or left or roll the ball right or left. There's no shortcuts, but it's not an annoyance, I thought it would be but it's not. Plus you can have multiple scenes to have the most important setup for what you're doing, and obviously you put what's most important closer to the middle, my 1st and 7th page are widgets and things I don't visit nearly as much as the others, but still like to have. Sure, the photo album widget is cool but it's not high priority so the speed dial widget and facebook widget go before it.

Yeah, not trying to say it's terrible or anything, just it's not as intuitively designed at the moment. I'm pretty sure they'll make improvements to the UI in the future.

 

[XMonkey]

Wait for the rumored Droid Tablet then. a QWERTY-less Droid, with a better camera, and 720p video support.

I hope Moto slims down the dimensions some (and I don't mean thickness, that's a given). The big screen on the Droid is nice, but the Eris just felt a lot more sleek in my hand.

 

[tokkun]

Yeah, not trying to say it's terrible or anything, just it's not as intuitively designed at the moment. I'm pretty sure they'll make improvements to the UI in the future.

I think that particular design choice is intentional and not going to change any time soon. HTC's TouchFlo UI already had the bar at the bottom long before Sense for Android was designed. I think they went with a 'swiping finger between screens' design simply because that is more like the standard Android interface. Another possibility is that they wanted to conserve screen space, since their Android phones have lower resolution than most of their recent WM phones.

 

[jonnybryce]

I'd definitely approve of a "all desktops" view like the T-Mobile UK Android UI or Maemo 5 has, but I'd take a bigger screen or more internal storage first.

 

[Level 8 Boss]

Guys, wondering if anyone could assit. I'm a bit of a noob. I'm rooted and rocking the Modaco custom rom 2.9 on a T-Mob G2, with latest radio, but it seems slower and less stable than earlier roms. Phone crashes, texting is slow and unresponsive, sometimes lose 3g connection in areas I've had no issues in previously etc.


Here's my stats, is there anything I should update?


Firmware 1.5

baseband - 63.18.55.06iu_6.35.08.22

Kernal 2.6.27-mck-teknolgist-1.8 root@neutrino

Build - Modaco custom rom 2.9 core

Software version - 1.0.0.A6288

If I were to downgrade the rom, is it a simple task of puttin the rom on the SD root, and installing the zip?

 

[El Papa]

Is that Modaco rom a Hero port? Do you have the Sapphire32b or a?

If you have the Sapphire32b (you should since it's a T-Mo myTouch) I would recommend enomther's 1.6 rom, which has the new Google Navigation built in. It's also very customizable, allowing you to add mods and widgets in Terminal. There's also an Eclair theme that looks very cool.

You could also use cyanogen's latest rom, it's stable and pretty fast. I'm using it atm because the Eclaire theme I mentioned before was originally made for it (I asked enomther to port it to his rom and he did, so I'll be switching back to it soon). Cyanogen's mods are solid. Boot screen is cool, too.

These are not HTC Sense builds btw.

 

[Totakeke]

The photos has been leaked on a lot of websites now, but BGR apparently has the full specs list.

Motorola Motus

We’ve just received a full spec list for the very blurry Motorola Motus and it’s pretty interesting. Why, you ask? Besides AT&T 3G support, the specs are pretty similar if not identical to the Motorola CLIQ. Our connect didn’t flat out tell us that the handset would be hitting AT&T, but hey, we can dream right? Here are the full specifications for the Motorola Motus:
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE
Tri-band 7.2Mbps HSDPA (850, 1900, 2100MHz)
5 megapixel autofocus camera with LED flash
256MB RAM
aGPS
Wi-Fi
3.1″ capacitive 480×320 display
Bluetooth 2.0
Weight: 133g
1400mAh battery
microSD slot
Qualcomm MSM 7201A CPU
MOTOBLUR

Last but not least, we’ve been told the Motus is not a slider but a unique “flip” phone. That’s all we’ve got for now, but we’ll keep you updated as always.

Link

Yup, it's a Motorola Cliq variant. The keyboard looks pretty snazzy.

 

[nubbe]

Ericsson staff slobbering over the X10

More Swedes getting it on

 

[jonnybryce]

The Motus looks tilted to me, but it's probably just the shitty quality.

Well that's cool. I'd like to see a Pixi form factor for Android, everyone seems scared to try that.

 

[Pimpwerx]

The photos has been leaked on a lot of websites now, but BGR apparently has the full specs list.



Link

Yup, it's a Motorola Cliq variant. The keyboard looks pretty snazzy.

Is this the new HTC for T-Mobile? There was just a commercial on 106th & Park with a phone that looked exactly like this, with T-Mobile branding. HTC HD2 it said, but that doesn't sound right either based on what I see the HD2 looks like. Anyway, it looked just like that (kb and all) and is HTC. Someone find more info, please. I'm kinda occupied. PEACE.

 

[Husker86]

Is this the new HTC for T-Mobile? There was just a commercial on 106th & Park with a phone that looked exactly like this, with T-Mobile branding. HTC HD2 it said, but that doesn't sound right either based on what I see the HD2 looks like. Anyway, it looked just like that (kb and all) and is HTC. Someone find more info, please. I'm kinda occupied. PEACE.

The HD2 is a windows mobile full touchscreen phone.

 

[jonnybryce]

Is this the new HTC for T-Mobile? There was just a commercial on 106th & Park with a phone that looked exactly like this, with T-Mobile branding. HTC HD2 it said, but that doesn't sound right either based on what I see the HD2 looks like. Anyway, it looked just like that (kb and all) and is HTC. Someone find more info, please. I'm kinda occupied. PEACE.

lol the Motorla Motus is by Motorla...(am I missing something?)

 

[Totakeke]

Is this the new HTC for T-Mobile? There was just a commercial on 106th & Park with a phone that looked exactly like this, with T-Mobile branding. HTC HD2 it said, but that doesn't sound right either based on what I see the HD2 looks like. Anyway, it looked just like that (kb and all) and is HTC. Someone find more info, please. I'm kinda occupied. PEACE.

You're probably talking about the HTC Touch Pro 2, good phone, but not Android.

 

[Pimpwerx]

I must confess, I was in the middle of sex when it came on the screen. But I know it was a flip phone with a flat kb that looked just like that pic. But the menu button in that pic looks like the cliq one, so I'm probably wrong. PEACE.

 

[Totakeke]

More on Motus.

As you can see, this phone is essentially part of the Cliq family. The only thing new is the outer design. It features a reverse flip keyboard and a rear directional touchpad. This is exactly what I speculated last month and I’m really curious to see how the touchpad will operate.

The single photo we have of the device only shows the outside of the phone. Somewhere on the back of the keyboard (or maybe display) there will be a touchpad. I must say it is quite an odd design. We think the touchpad will be used for the gesture controls that no one has taken full advantage of yet.

http://androidandme.com/2009/11/phones/motorola-motus-specs-magically-appear/

 

[Pimpwerx]

This should be important to Hero owners. Sprint has a firmware update available for the Hero. Go and get it. Some people are reporting SMS problem fixed among other things. I'm updating now.

http://phandroid.com/2009/11/20/a-faster-hero-with-new-update/

Overall, the update was supposed to address issues with:

Boot caching issues.
Broken app names.
SMS draining the battery.
Not Receiving SMS messages when the Inbox is full or low on memory.
Memory leak due to connected bluetooth device.
Stereo headphone sound quality.
Hero dialer using too many CPU resources.
Daylight savings time issue.

It's a Sprint software update. I'm gonna check to see if it affects the problem with uptime after sending an SMS. You might want to use the Device Self-Service app that Sprint included on the phone. PEACE.

EDIT: CONFIRMED, this fixes the SMS issue on my phone. Uptime is no longer 100% (sent and received text and did a before/after test). I never used a 3rd party SMS app, so it means I can probably go a full day on a charge with this phone now. I just wish Sprint had sent me a text on Wednesday, when they released this. What's the point of them knowing the phone I use if they don't tell me it's updated?

EDIT2: It's snappier at the home screen. Very responsive. I'm in love with this phone all over again.

 

[jonnybryce]

Yeah I'm excited that I can drop handcent and its hideous icon for the beautiful and polished SMS app again, and I can make use of the uber awesome sms widget. Took long enough!

There's also more stuff on the call screen, like a touch button for mute and speaker instead of having to hit menu to bring it up.

 

[Fatalah]

EDIT2: It's snappier at the home screen. Very responsive. I'm in love with this phone all over again.

When I first tried the Hero-Eris in a VZ store, I was so impressed by the responsiveness of the home screen. I can't wait for the next HTC phone :-D

 

[Totakeke]

So it seems like X10 is going to AT&T rather than T-Mobile.

First of all, the Xperia X10 looks poised to arrive at AT&T. The Sony Ericsson X10 page has been updated with more detailed specs and it lists the following:

Networks
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS/HSPA 800/850/900/1700/1900/2100

The above shows compatibility with both AT&T and T-Mobile but the following line nixes T-Mobile as it explicitly takes out the necessary 1700 band T-Mobile needs for 3G:

UMTS HSPA 800/850/1900 only available for phones sold in Americas (except Brazil) and Australia. UMTS HSPA 900/1700 not available for phones sold in Americas. UMTS HSPA 1900/2100 available worldwide.

That official product page shares some other interesting tidbits, for example while it notes inclusion of Google Maps in the connectivity section, we also see that the X10 uses Wisepilot™ turn-by-turn navigation. Since the X10 won’t launch with Android 2.0 it would preclude it from having Google Navigation in the first place, but when the update comes will it still have Wisepilot, defer to Google Nav or provide the option of either?

Also shown is “Video Light” that provides “More light when shooting video”. The camera has a flash and I’m assuming this just keeps the flash on while video is recording – a small inclusion but a pretty cool one. Why other phones don’t already offer this? I have no clue… it probably sucks up some much desired battery life but if you want to take a night video, you want to take a night video.

While I can’t find this now, we got a tip from Jordan who wrote in to tell us about the X10 “Gesture Control”. It apparently included the explanation that you can “silence the call or alarm simply by moving your hand across the camera lens.” Pretty cool indeed.

But how much will you pay for pretty cool? If a few online retailers who are taking pre-orders for the unlocked X10 are on target, that $879 price isn’t far off, andhow disappointing that will be. The folks at MobileCityOnline are pre-selling both the black and white X10 for $999 although no expected date is included:

http://phandroid.com/2009/11/21/xperia-x10-to-att-details-emerge/

The video they included also seem to run the Nexus UI much snappier, ugh, what a PR mess.

Also to recap, the SE WebSDK beta for developing on Symbian and Android phones has been released and apparently the Nexus UI also as API hooks so developers can add more stuffs into it like integrating more online streaming services other than the default youtube.

 

[Husker86]

The update For the Hero coupled with some faulty Google DRM makes some protected apps that you paid for disappear from the Market. Google/HTC better fix this quick, I'm not happy.

 

[Vyse The Legend]

Looks like the X10 is coming to AT&T, not T-Mobile.

From the official spec sheet:

UMTS HSPA 800/850/1900 only available for phones sold in Americas (except Brazil) and Australia. UMTS HSPA 900/1700 not available for phones sold in Americas. UMTS HSPA 1900/2100 available worldwide.

In other words, the X10 is going to be sold in America, but only the version that supports AT&T's 3G, not T-Mobile's.

If T-Mobilers want the X10, they will have to pay an unsubsidized, hefty price for the import version.

T-Mobile fails me yet again.

 

[Bboy AJ]

So I'll buy the X10 and get it unlocked somehow. Then I'll run it on T-Mobile. Not a big deal to me. No 3G speeds but since I'm always around a wifi signal, that's not a huge issue. Edge works just fine with the iPhone 3GS I've been running.

The only problem is there being an unlocked solution to start off with. Also, the possibility of a contract subsidization would have been nice. Oh well.

 

[Pctx]

Looks like the X10 is coming to AT&T, not T-Mobile.

From the official spec sheet:



In other words, the X10 is going to be sold in America, but only the version that supports AT&T's 3G, not T-Mobile's.

If T-Mobilers want the X10, they will have to pay an unsubsidized, hefty price for the import version.

T-Mobile fails me yet again.

No biggie to me as the X10 based on things I've read has quite a few issues that who knows if SE will address or not.

Either way, least AT&T peeps have a decent alternative to the iPhone.

 

[Iron_Scimitar]

Looks like the X10 is coming to AT&T, not T-Mobile.

From the official spec sheet:



In other words, the X10 is going to be sold in America, but only the version that supports AT&T's 3G, not T-Mobile's.

If T-Mobilers want the X10, they will have to pay an unsubsidized, hefty price for the import version.

T-Mobile fails me yet again.

OH GOD YES.

This means that I dont have to hold my breath for a GSM Dragon/Passion. I never gave the x10 any of my attention because those high profile SE phones never had any presence in America. Now that the x10 is coming to my carrier, its getting all of my attention now. I'm so ready to sell my iPhone.

 

[tokkun]

OH GOD YES.

This means that I dont have to hold my breath for a GSM Dragon/Passion. I never gave the x10 any of my attention because those high profile SE phones never had any presence in America. Now that the x10 is coming to my carrier, its getting all of my attention now. I'm so ready to sell my iPhone.

Actually, that spec sheet only shows that it will be compatible with AT&T's 3G frequencies, not that it will be sold by AT&T. It could potentially be released on a Canadian 800/1900 GSM carrier and not by AT&T.

 

[SimleuqiR]

Looks like the X10 is coming to AT&T, not T-Mobile.

From the official spec sheet:



In other words, the X10 is going to be sold in America, but only the version that supports AT&T's 3G, not T-Mobile's.

If T-Mobilers want the X10, they will have to pay an unsubsidized, hefty price for the import version.

T-Mobile fails me yet again.

I hear you! Unless I can get the SE X10 from Europe unlocked (with T-mobiel 3G bands) I don't think I'm sticking around with T-mobile. They better release a Snapdragon HTC phone stat, or else they will lose a 5 year old account.

The only other scenario that would keep me with T-mobile would be if they release the HTC HD2 and I can some how replace Windows with Android.

Neither Sprint or T-mobile has a phone that I "want", but Sprint wins with plans and coverage at this very moment.

 

[Haly]

Been looking into Android phones recently, and the T-Mobile Pulse/Huawei U8220 caught my eye. I liked the fact that it's prepaid, because I'm not a heavy phone user but would like to have an Android phone around to play with. Only after poking around did I discover that only T-Mobile UK offers the prepaid Pulse, while it still hasn't found a carrier in the U.S. yet.

I was wondering what are the chances of the Pulse having a prepaid plan here as well?

 

[Chris R]

Can anyone with personal experience post their thoughts on the HTC Hero? First Android phone my area is getting and I'm seriously thinking about getting it...