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[ThatObviousUser]

http://www.androidguys.com/2010/02/26/android-outselling-iphone-midwest/

=0 Android is already winning entire states.

 

[Pimpwerx]

Good guesses. I pretty much agree.
-CDMA N1 for Verizon only, most likely
-Incredible for Verizon
-Supersonic for Sprint (WiMAX)
-Desire (N1) for AT&T
-And it's already confirmed T-Mobile gets the HD2 (hopefully upgaded to WinMo 7)

If the HD2 is upgraded to Win7, it becomes very interesting. I want to stay platform agnostic, and I have to admit the interface had me intrigued. PEACE.

 

[XMonkey]

Hmm, with the N1 now clearing the FCC in CDMA form I'm hopeful that means it will arrive on Verizon in March ahead of the Incredible. I'll go with whatever comes out first (I'm leaning N1 right now), but hopefully I can get an N1 on Verizon if you're on a family plan without paying some kind of ridiculous price. After all, there's no advantage to having it "unlocked" on CDMA like there is with GSM...

 

[Paznos]

Hmm, with the N1 now clearing the FCC in CDMA form I'm hopeful that means it will arrive on Verizon in March ahead of the Incredible. I'll go with whatever comes out first (I'm leaning N1 right now), but hopefully I can get an N1 on Verizon if you're on a family plan without paying some kind of ridiculous price. After all, there's no advantage to having it "unlocked" on CDMA like there is with GSM...

I was kind of hoping the Verizon version would be a world phone but it's not

 

[XMonkey]

It would be nice, but carriers love to restrict their headline devices too much :\ But, Google was kind of an unknown entity with how they're treating the N1, so I can see why that was a possibility.

 

[Chojin]

http://www.androidguys.com/2010/02/26/android-outselling-iphone-midwest/

=0 Android is already winning entire states.

South dakota is a fluke though. All that exists there is Verizon/Alltell

New Mexico. Well thats probably because of yours truly

 

[Deleted member 22576]

So my droid's headphone jack is.. jacked up.
Should I contact verizon or moto about this?

 

[Chojin]

So my droid's headphone jack is.. jacked up.
Should I contact verizon or moto about this?

Jacked as in not functioning?

Thats covered under warranty with the carrier if you purchased it from them. If you didn't purchase it from Verizon then I would go to the manufacturer.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

Yeah, after a few days of ultra sensitivity (rubbing the headphone cord against a jacket would "disconnect it" pausing the music) its started only producing sound in the earphone.

 

[Chojin]

Yeah, after a few days of ultra sensitivity (rubbing the headphone cord against a jacket would "disconnect it" pausing the music) its started only producing sound in the earphone.

Call Verizon tech support, they'll troubleshoot it, after that they'll deem the hardware failed and since with most carriers (at least at T-Mobile) your phone will be under warranty for at least 12 months without any special warranty purchase. Give them guff and try to get free shipping out of exchange as well. Should that fail, well, we have big open arms at Tmo

FYI manufacturers have a 12 month warranty on devices (and stuff like batteries and chargers, and your headphones should those be faulty), whereas most carriers only have a 90 day warranty on accessories.

At any rate, should your phone have no water damage, no cracks on the screen or casing, you should be good for a warranty exchange.

 

[XMonkey]

Hmmm... Nexus One coming to Verizon on March 23

I believe Verizon has a press conference at CTIA that day. Probably will go on sale as the press conference happens if their source is right.

 

[tokkun]

 

[ThatObviousUser]

For some reason it seems the bigger and better Android becomes, the more annoyed people are becoming with it...

I'd been thinking about this since BGR's infamous Nexus One review/"personal thoughts" on Android, and it sprung up again in Engadget's Entelligence article about WP7S.

Personally, I'd disagree, and I'd actually argue that Windows Mobile 6.5 is underrated in the mobile arena -- almost as much as Android is overrated.

It seems like there's no one looking out for Android in the tech blogosphere. I don't really have a problem with that opinion, anyone can have it and I don't care, but it just seems really out of place to single Android out in an article about Windows Mobile. It also doesn't help Engadget's position that Android is fourth on their priority list for an official Engadget app, which hasn't released yet.

These people seem genuinely annoyed that Android is gaining momentum and I can't figure out why. If you don't like an OS that's fine, but for some reason Android incites actual malice. I don't get it.

I'll wrap up this first fireside chat with a rallying cry: the blogosphere is going to become more and more divided as Android grows. Unfortunately there will be a lot of "professionals" and "journalists" who will rage against Android for no real reason. But by 2011, when Android's growth is total, it won't matter. So keep that in mind when bloggers become more and more lukewarm towards Android. They'll come around eventually.
-Andrex

 

[giga]

WinMo 6.5 underrated? No words. :lol

 

[Jayge]

For some reason it seems the bigger and better Android becomes, the more annoyed people are becoming with it...

I'd been thinking about this since BGR's infamous Nexus One review/"personal thoughts" on Android, and it sprung up again in Engadget's Entelligence article about WP7S.



It seems like there's no one looking out for Android in the tech blogosphere. I don't really have a problem with that opinion, anyone can have it and I don't care, but it just seems really out of place to single Android out in an article about Windows Mobile. It also doesn't help Engadget's position that Android is fourth on their priority list for an official Engadget app, which hasn't released yet.

These people seem genuinely annoyed that Android is gaining momentum and I can't figure out why. If you don't like an OS that's fine, but for some reason Android incites actual malice. I don't get it.

I'll wrap up this first fireside chat with a rallying cry: the blogosphere is going to become more and more divided as Android grows. Unfortunately there will be a lot of "professionals" and "journalists" who will rage against Android for no real reason. But by 2011, when Android's growth is total, it won't matter. So keep that in mind when bloggers become more and more lukewarm towards Android. They'll come around eventually.
-Andrex

Do you read Entellignece often? It's a rare week when Gartenberg comes off as anything other than an asshat whose view of reality is entirely removed from... reality.

 

[Hawkian]

Andrex, I think it and you say it.

This always bugged the crap out of me:

Oh really. My platform of choice.

How complex could their "no pressure" app really be? The OS has been around for two generations. It's older than WebOS. Seems like a bit of a slight.

These people seem genuinely annoyed that Android is gaining momentum and I can't figure out why.

I have a kind of idea why.

It's because Android isn't supposed to succeed. A truly "open" handset alliance does not benefit particular carriers, manufacturers or entities that the aforementioned sponsor. It poses an extremely real threat to a lucrative status quo, for exactly the same reason Jobs calls "don't be evil," you know, "bullshit." You and I know different, though.

I find it hard to accept "overrated" as a legitimate complaint about the OS, however. Where are these amazing overratings? I'd be much more inclined to take seriously a jab like "unstable," "incomplete," or "underdeveloped," all of which are way closer to being true. It very much has the feel of a work in progress- not quite the "I'm almost done with coding so I think I'll take my lunch break oh wait what was I doing hmm let's play laser tag" feel of Windows Mobile 6.5, but certainly that it has room to grow much more even two generations in.

Boy those BGR "personal thoughts" are a depressing read. Really seems like the Nexus One made the kid angry :lol

 

[ThatObviousUser]

How complex could their "no pressure" app really be? The OS has been around for two generations. It's older than WebOS. Seems like a bit of a slight.

Not to mention that just straight-up porting a WebOS app using the Android API's WebView is criminally simple. They even use the same rendering engine.

I have a kind of idea why.

It's because Android isn't supposed to succeed. A truly "open" handset alliance does not benefit particular carriers, manufacturers or entities that the aforementioned sponsor. It poses an extremely real threat to a lucrative status quo, for exactly the same reason Jobs calls "don't be evil," you know, "bullshit." You and I know different, though.

That's the feeling I had. It's like when Android was announced they went, "how quaint." Then the Droid and Nexus One come out and they suddenly wake up to these dream devices running it. "Wait, what just happened?" is what I think was running through their heads. Android grew up really fast and now it's a force to be reckoned with. Instead of accepting that they never thought Android would be anything but a tech nerd's plaything, they bash it to save their egos.

Hrm, I guess I did have some hunches of my own after all.

I find it hard to accept "overrated" as a legitimate complaint about the OS, however. Where are these amazing overratings? I'd be much more inclined to take seriously a jab like "unstable," "incomplete," or "underdeveloped," all of which are way closer to being true. It very much has the feel of a work in progress- not quite the "I'm almost done with coding so I think I'll take my lunch break oh wait what was I doing hmm let's play laser tag" feel of Windows Mobile 6.5, but certainly that it has room to grow much more even two generations in.

Totally. In fact even in 2.1 the "incomplete" moniker would still ring a bit true. The Music app is dreadfully rusty, and yeah native Exchange isn't the best (though TouchDown instantly reverses that.) The Android Market needs a little better sorting and searching controls. And numerous reviews have pointed this out, so I really fail to see how Android is, in any way, overrated by the enthusiast press. If anything it's now getting an unfair backlash.

Boy those BGR "personal thoughts" are a depressing read. Really seems like the Nexus One made the kid angry :lol

The most maddening thing about them is that they're more fragmented than he says Android is. :lol One sentence he's flaming Google's handling of the OS, then he's bashing the devices, then it's the Android Market, then third-party app devs, then back to the OS... Instead of fleshing out any one argument he just goes into a anger-induced tirade with very little rhyme or reason guiding his points.

Don't even get me started on "the human touch/feel" argument.

 

[Chojin]

It seems like there's no one looking out for Android in the tech blogosphere.

Looks like its just you and me against the world Andy my pal.

 

[kaching]

Google's got their fingers in a lot of pies and some people just have a predisposed aversion to that, whether there's any merit to actually be worried in this particular case. Success breeds contempt, that's just how it works for some people.

If you think Engadget and BGR are bad, stay away from PC World or Molly Wood at CNET. Their fave tactic at the moment is to bag on Android for being too fragmented because different phones get different versions of the OS and they don't all get upgraded to the latest OS version in lockstep. Naturally this leads to some people getting miffed that they can't get an upgrade but these sites try to make it sound like this will single-handedly destroy the Android platform. The irony being that if you tally up the total number of Android phone owners with a 1.x OS that won't get upgraded and will miss out on 2.x features you still won't have anywhere near the number of 1st generation iPhone owners that had to put up with their phones being selectively overlooked for feature upgrades like video recording and MMS support.

There are plenty of tech markets that deal with heavy fragmentation without any significant impact on sales - PCs, hell the entire smartphone market with at least half a dozen OSes now. It's not like Android introduced heavy fragmentation to the market...

 

[Fatalah]

Looks like its just you and me against the world Andy my pal.

No, I'm Spartacus!

 

[womp]

WinMo underrated? Tell that to the WinMo users I've met that abhor their phones running it (After the fact, before realizing what they got into).

:lol

Let me just say that the newly converted Android owners I know on the other end are nothing less than pleased.

The bias on sites like Engadget is seething.

BTW, as far as I know Molly Wood uses a Droid so don't be too hard on her. heh.

 

[Pimpwerx]

Google is getting too big too fast. I used to post Google-related articles on my FB, like the N1 and some other Android phones. Then there was Wave, then their DNS server, and when Buzz came out I just stopped. I don't want to come off as a Google shill, though I thoroughly enjoy their services. So long as they don't become evil (and they will eventually), it's fine letting them take control of the web. If become evil, we will destroy them and let someone else rise to take their place. It might just be me, but the internet is as free market as it gets. PEACE.

 

[Hawkian]

The irony being that if you tally up the total number of Android phone owners with a 1.x OS that won't get upgraded and will miss out on 2.x features you still won't have anywhere near the number of 1st generation iPhone owners that had to put up with their phones being selectively overlooked for feature upgrades like video recording and MMS support.

I think an even deeper irony lies in that article particular discussing WinPho 7, because fragmentation hasn't exactly been unknown to Windows Mobile...

WinMo underrated? Tell that to the WinMo users I've met that abhor their phones running it (After the fact, before realizing what they got into).

There are still devices being sold new today with 6.1 (the guy who sits next to me at work has one and hates it). And with Windows Phone, that will be two or three complete name changes depending on how you look at it, and six or seven minor changes to the naming conventions of the OS over the course of a decade. WinMo 6.5 will become Windows 7 Starter and will be sold only in "non-premium" smartphone markets. aaah the fragmentation

 

[Deleted member 22576]

I'm pretty sure the guy who writes Entelligence isn't really a part of Engadget.
Anywho, on yesterday's podcast they we're talking about the Engadget awards and we're genuinely excited the Droid won best smartphone over the iPhone.

/Engadget fanboy.

 

[kaching]

BTW, as far as I know Molly Wood uses a Droid so don't be too hard on her. heh.

I find that I agree with Molly on precisely one thing - her stance on DRM/Copyright. Outside of that, when she actually tries to wade into anything technical, especially to do with software development, the results are horrendous. Droid in hand or not, trying to conflate the forking of the Android kernel from the Linux Kernel with the fragmentation of OS versions on phones, as if the two are related in any way or as if there's anything wrong with forking in an open source environment in the first place, makes me want to pull my hair out.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

I'm pretty sure the guy who writes Entelligence isn't really a part of Engadget.
Anywho, on yesterday's podcast they we're talking about the Engadget awards and we're genuinely excited the Droid won best smartphone over the iPhone.

/Engadget fanboy.

In user awards. The Engadget editors still chose the iPhone 3GS.

 

[El Papa]

In user awards. The Engadget editors still chose the iPhone 3GS.

For editor awards, Droid won Gadget of the Year, iphone won Smartphone of the Year. Which one is more prestigious?

 

[ThatObviousUser]

For editor awards, Droid won Gadget of the Year, iphone won Smartphone of the Year. Which one is more prestigious?

Both.

 

[Hawkian]

I'm pretty sure the guy who writes Entelligence isn't really a part of Engadget.
Anywho, on yesterday's podcast they we're talking about the Engadget awards and we're genuinely excited the Droid won best smartphone over the iPhone.

/Engadget fanboy.

Oh I visit them every day, and the site itself is wonderful. I just don't think their biases are shrouded.

 

[overthehill99]

What is the consensus of the Devour? Is it better then the Droid?

 

[JaseMath]

What is the consensus of the Devour? Is it better then the Droid?

Unless you want the Blur interface (and 1.6), the Droid is easily the better phone.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

Shrouded?
They aren't. They are very vocal about what they like and dislike, and even as a recent Android convert who is very satisfied.. it's hard to deny that the iPhone is really really good, and for some things better than Android at. I like Android a lot, but in my opinion it still has a loooooong way to go until I would recommend it to a non-techie friend.

And Android just flat-out does not have attractive devices. Sure, some are coming.. but nearly every handset currently available ranges from meh to ooogly. The cool factor is something Android has never had and probably never will have.

I love my Droid, and I like Android.. but 85% of that satisfaction is because it's so tightly integrated into Google's service which run my life. Not because it's a really great OS. Android as an OS is "just good enough" to run those services, nothing more and nothing less.

Someone said Android doesn't have any friends in the press.. why should it?
All it comes down to is what your phone can do for you and how easy and quick it can do it.
So far, for a lot of things Android is kind of lacking.

I just had to get that off my chest. I feel like a lot of people want Android to be judged on it's potential and not what it currently has on the table.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

But Android does have great, "drool-worthy" devices running it. Pull out a Droid or a Nexus One and you'll likely get a lot of attention from your friends. But that's kind of a silly thing to judge an OS on. In terms of hardware specs too, Droid and Nexus One blow away the iPhone 3GS. That's a fact.

As far as the OS being lacking, with the recent inclusion of pinch-to-zoom to the Browser, Google Maps, and Gallery apps, I fail to see any single "key feature" that Android is lacking on its own. The music player sucks, but it's there and with alternatives on the Market. Exchange is bare bones, but TouchDown is great. It doesn't have a dedicated first-party media syncing program for computers, but Songbird and doubleTwist have that ability.

I really wonder what these mystical features that every other smartphone OS has that Android doesn't. The one single area I concede right now is not allowing apps to be installed to SD, but that's coming and it's not a huge problem now.

What is the consensus of the Devour? Is it better then the Droid?

No. But it's a nifty smartphone in its own right.

 

[mj1108]

Google's got their fingers in a lot of pies and some people just have a predisposed aversion to that, whether there's any merit to actually be worried in this particular case. Success breeds contempt, that's just how it works for some people.

If you think Engadget and BGR are bad, stay away from PC World or Molly Wood at CNET. Their fave tactic at the moment is to bag on Android for being too fragmented because different phones get different versions of the OS and they don't all get upgraded to the latest OS version in lockstep. Naturally this leads to some people getting miffed that they can't get an upgrade but these sites try to make it sound like this will single-handedly destroy the Android platform. The irony being that if you tally up the total number of Android phone owners with a 1.x OS that won't get upgraded and will miss out on 2.x features you still won't have anywhere near the number of 1st generation iPhone owners that had to put up with their phones being selectively overlooked for feature upgrades like video recording and MMS support.

There are plenty of tech markets that deal with heavy fragmentation without any significant impact on sales - PCs, hell the entire smartphone market with at least half a dozen OSes now. It's not like Android introduced heavy fragmentation to the market...

I like how some will complain about the fragmentation of Android and then praise the iPhone for not being fragmented....when they seem to forget that of course the iPhone isn't fragmented because it's only on ONE HANDSET. If it was on multiple handsets it would probably be fragmented as well.

For some reason it seems the bigger and better Android becomes, the more annoyed people are becoming with it...

I'd been thinking about this since BGR's infamous Nexus One review/"personal thoughts" on Android, and it sprung up again in Engadget's Entelligence article about WP7S.



It seems like there's no one looking out for Android in the tech blogosphere. I don't really have a problem with that opinion, anyone can have it and I don't care, but it just seems really out of place to single Android out in an article about Windows Mobile. It also doesn't help Engadget's position that Android is fourth on their priority list for an official Engadget app, which hasn't released yet.

These people seem genuinely annoyed that Android is gaining momentum and I can't figure out why. If you don't like an OS that's fine, but for some reason Android incites actual malice. I don't get it.

I'll wrap up this first fireside chat with a rallying cry: the blogosphere is going to become more and more divided as Android grows. Unfortunately there will be a lot of "professionals" and "journalists" who will rage against Android for no real reason. But by 2011, when Android's growth is total, it won't matter. So keep that in mind when bloggers become more and more lukewarm towards Android. They'll come around eventually.
-Andrex

The bigger Android gets, the more these people who are raging against Android will be vocal. It gets under their skin that there's something other than Lord Jobs iPhone that people are going towards.

As for Engadget, you should know the site is made up of nothing but Apple worshipping shills. I wouldn't trust their opinion on anything as far as I can throw them.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

I like how some will complain about the fragmentation of Android and then praise the iPhone for not being fragmented....when they seem to forget that of course the iPhone isn't fragmented because it's only on ONE HANDSET. If it was on multiple handsets it would probably be fragmented as well.

Eh, even still, that one handset is outselling all Android handsets over all. It's something Android will eventually have to overcome.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

But Android does have great, "drool-worthy" devices running it. Pull out a Droid or a Nexus One and you'll likely get a lot of attention from your friends. But that's kind of a silly thing to judge an OS on.

Obviously it all comes down to personal preference. I think the Nexus One looks ok, but the unnecessary scroll ball and weird striped backing are just kind of funky IMO. And I do the Droid is quite handsome, but the thing has the crappiest build quality of any phone I've owned. The volume slider and camera button are loose and jiggly and the gold paint has already worn off completely after 4 months. AND my headset jack is broken. And it might be a silly thing to judge an OS on.. but a cellphone is equal parts Software and Hardware.. and so far 90% of all Android Hardware I've seen not drool-worthy in the slightest. And as far as getting Attention from your friends.. in my experience it might not be attention you want.

As far as the OS being lacking, with the recent inclusion of pinch-to-zoom to the Browser, Google Maps, and Gallery apps,

I have yet to recieve those, but honestly they aren't that important to me. The OS just doesn't feel polished. There are tons of tiny little glitches. That just kill me. Like when you download an MP3 through the browser and then click to play it from the download manager.. if you pause it. It then will "stop" and you'll have to search through the music player to restart it again. "Lack of polish" is a hard thing to quantify, but in my opinion Android does not feel polished.

I really wonder what these mystical features that every other smartphone OS has that Android doesn't.

I never meant to imply that Android is "lacking" something every other OS has. Every OS has it's own set of shortcomings and in the grand scheme of things I'd say they're about equal. I just don't see anything so special about Android.. other than it's tight integration with services that SHOULD be available on every platform.


I didn't mean to spray the thread down with Haterade. I love my phone, and right now wouldn't choose it over anything else. I'm just really tired of everyone chalking up every negative thing said about the platform to Apple Bias or bitching that nobody in the press is out there evangelizing it. I don't even know where I'm going with this, I've never been satisfied with my phone and have always wanted more, and right now for my particular usage case Android is the closest thing to what I want, but it still has a long way to go.

 

[XMonkey]

And Android just flat-out does not have attractive devices.

What do you consider an attractive device.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

What do you consider an attractive device.

Right now my two favorite designs are the Pre and Pixi.
I do really like my Droid too, but in a very different way. It's hard to describe.
And while not a cellphone, the Zune HD is really good looking.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

Android has a ways to go but no OS is perfect. That's why I was surprised to see someone say it's overrated, or to hate on it much more than the other platforms.

 

[XMonkey]

Right now my two favorite designs are the Pre and Pixi.
I do really like my Droid too, but in a very different way. It's hard to describe.
And while not a cellphone, the Zune HD is really good looking.

Fair enough. I find the Pre a bit too thick for my liking, and I loathe hardware keyboards (presuming a software keyboard is competent, and HTCs is) so to me it's a negative when it impacts the depth of the phone. Both devices have screens that really could use a bump in size, the Pixi especially. IMO, HTC has the best looking devices. The Eris and Desire are fantastic, and I really like the Nexus One despite the odd pewter color motif. To me, a large screen (but not HD2 large) and thinness are paramount.

 

[kaching]

I'm just really tired of everyone chalking up every negative thing said about the platform to Apple Bias or bitching that nobody in the press is out there evangelizing it.

That's not really what's happening here though. Nobody is trying to simply dismiss the negatives here, but there does seem to be some intent within the tech press to exaggerate them, make the negatives out to be worse than they are.

 

[El Papa]

I have yet to recieve those, but honestly they aren't that important to me. The OS just doesn't feel polished. There are tons of tiny little glitches. That just kill me. Like when you download an MP3 through the browser and then click to play it from the download manager.. if you pause it. It then will "stop" and you'll have to search through the music player to restart it again. "Lack of polish" is a hard thing to quantify, but in my opinion Android does not feel polished.

Ongoing Music Adapter Lite fixes this problem. Sadly, the developer has had to pull it from the Market for some reason. Hopefully he can put it back up soon. You might be able to find it through other methods.

For the record, I think pinch to zoom is the most overrated, horseshit feature ever. It requires you to use two hands, unless your device is on a table, and using two fingers on the same hand to pinch / zoom is just awkward. Having a zoom button or tap / double tap to zoom / zoom out works just fine, and lets me use only one hand. Engadet's incessant whining about it was annoying for a long while. I'm glad it's finally implemented so they can stop crying about it. It's a nice feature to have as on option, but the amount of attention it got as a negative to Android was retarded.

 

[cabottemp]

anyone know of any websites, books and/or .pdf's on beginner to advanced android development?

 

[HeySeuss]

So what's better...the N1 or the HTC Incredible? Looks like both will drop soon. I wonder if they will release both at the same time like they did with the Droid/Eris...

 

[giga]

Right now my two favorite designs are the Pre and Pixi.
I do really like my Droid too, but in a very different way. It's hard to describe.
And while not a cellphone, the Zune HD is really good looking.

Pre hardware is pretty subpar. Nexus One build quality is miles better imo--so much more solid in your hand. The slider/hinge really turned me off on the device as well. Agreed about the Droid hardware.

Love webOS though. Wonderfully crafted OS that I feel has the best implementation of multitasking--no foolishness with task killer apps. Really beautiful pixels and UX design all around which I feel is somewhat lagging on Android in specific cases, though they've improved bounds. (no scroll bounce? come on!)

Google should snatch up some of these Palm designers.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

Ongoing Music Adapter Lite fixes this problem. Sadly, the developer has had to pull it from the Market for some reason. Hopefully he can put it back up soon. You might be able to find it through other methods.

That's too bad. I'll keep my eyes peeled. Thanks for the suggestion though!

Pre hardware is pretty subpar. Nexus One build quality is miles better imo--so much more solid in your hand.

Hmm, I actually don't have much hands on experience with the Pre.. just a few minutes with the demo unit. Regardless of build quality I just really like the look. It's a bit thick but it's very tiny.

 

[DefectiveReject]

I didn't go with the N1 or the Droid in the end. I preordered a Desire, should arrive 26th March. Looking forward to it!

 

[OriginalThinking]

For some reason it seems the bigger and better Android becomes, the more annoyed people are becoming with it...

I'd been thinking about this since BGR's infamous Nexus One review/"personal thoughts" on Android, and it sprung up again in Engadget's Entelligence article about WP7S.



It seems like there's no one looking out for Android in the tech blogosphere. I don't really have a problem with that opinion, anyone can have it and I don't care, but it just seems really out of place to single Android out in an article about Windows Mobile. It also doesn't help Engadget's position that Android is fourth on their priority list for an official Engadget app, which hasn't released yet.

These people seem genuinely annoyed that Android is gaining momentum and I can't figure out why. If you don't like an OS that's fine, but for some reason Android incites actual malice. I don't get it.

I'll wrap up this first fireside chat with a rallying cry: the blogosphere is going to become more and more divided as Android grows. Unfortunately there will be a lot of "professionals" and "journalists" who will rage against Android for no real reason. But by 2011, when Android's growth is total, it won't matter. So keep that in mind when bloggers become more and more lukewarm towards Android. They'll come around eventually.
-Andrex

It's fairly simple - people have a vested interested in the status quo. You fear what you don't understand and so your natural instinct is to knock it. I think the amount of negative press surrounding the Nexus One is ludicrous and is designed around generating hits and massaging the insecurity of the industry. The industry doesn't really know what to make of Android - open source, free and not tied to any manufacturer. They've seen the potentially destructive nature of what Google can achieve - hammering the share prices of major Sat Nav companies by offering free turn by turn voice navigation, the potential of Google Voice and they worry about what Google might do next - Perhaps something that undermines the carriers themselves (highly unlikely, but people tend to assume the worst).

In terms of the Nexus One, it's problems are no more than any other handset. The difference is that when people wanted to complain they could only go to the website and there wasn't much of a telephone helpline. So anyone and everyone in the tech blogosphere could easily see the problems just by looking at the Android support forums. On the other hand it isn't as easy to view the data about return levels/issues of other handsets as most customers normally return to the store, call their provider or call the manufacturer. Working in the mobile industry as i do, i am well aware that return levels of mobile handsets are higher than most other forms of technology and it's something the industry is working hard on to rectify. Symbian s60 for example is seriously buggy on a huge number of Nokia and Sony Ericsson handsets, the iPhone had its fair share of reliablity issues at launch and in the UK the price of the iPhone (which is often overlooked) is absurd even on a 2 year contract. I'm not saying that issues with the Nexus don't exist (3g connection being the main one) but that the issues are no more widespread than any other handset, they are just a lot more public.

 

[womp]

:lol That's awesome. I'd buy it in a nanosecond if only because I owned a Tour before my current Droid and the keyboard was glorious.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/21/entelligence-heres-what-i-want-in-my-next-phone/

 

[CrankyJay]

Hmmm... Nexus One coming to Verizon on March 23

I believe Verizon has a press conference at CTIA that day. Probably will go on sale as the press conference happens if their source is right.

I'm really excited about this. I hope I can apply my NE2.