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Another Story of PS3 (PS3 A/V articles by Masakazu Honda at PC Watch)

gofreak

GAF's Bob Woodward
Pallaris said:
Gofreak, what's your HDTV then? :)

It's a hitachi pj-tx-100 (projector), 720p. I'm sure the scaler isn't ideal but I can't report issues in the same way that, say, drohne was experiencing. I'm sure it would look better still if the PS3 was scaling, but it looks fantastic as is.
 

Diseased Yak

Gold Member
Kleegamefan said:
Do you like Jazz?


If so give Oscar Peterson: Exclusively For My Friends Vol I-VI(six disc SACD set) a listen and experience TRUE eargasim at its finest :D


Also, Vivaldi: La Stravaganza has:

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...sound quality.....it doesnt matter if you like classical or not, you MUST buy this SACD...ho boy!!

Indeed I do like Jazz, I'll check out that Peterson recommend. I have Charles Mingus' "Mingus Ah Um" and Miles Davis' "Kind of Blue" both on SACD and they are simply jaw-dropping.

Incidentally, the absolute best sound I've ever heard in my life is Beck's "Sea Change" album in SACD. Incredible use of surrounds, the sound field was the most enveloping I've ever heard, and the bass... my gawd the bass! Flaming Lips "Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots" also has a killer SACD mix.
 

Kleegamefan

K. LEE GAIDEN
I gotta give flaming lips a try....thanks for that :)

and I think everybody who owns an SACD player owns Miles Davis Kind of Blue.....its like super mario 64 or something :D
 
Big Nate said:
You are correct sir, my bad. Still sounds great!

Absolutely. Any of the Porcupine Tree DVD-A stuff is also must-buy.

And regarding playback ability, a lot of surround DVD-A are still worth listening to for the (usually present) DTS 5.1 mix.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
Kleegamefan said:
The PDP xx50/1 HD series Pios have the same glass as the Elites, belive it or not.....that is why they are in such high demand..


Hey frank, what kind of TV do you have....if it has a good scaler/deinterlacer then don't worry about the 720p Blu-ray movie issue :)


It's a 32 inch Samsung. It's not that they look bad, it's that I know it's not native. It's totally psychological. 720p scaled from 1080i looks softer, but that's it.
 

Raistlin

Post Count: 9999
beermonkey@tehbias said:
Absolutely. Any of the Porcupine Tree DVD-A stuff is also must-buy.

Most definitly!!!





I wonder if there is any way to convince Sony to add DVD-A playback to PS3? Maybe once SACD is officially 'dead' they won't care anymore?
 
Onix said:
I wonder if there is any way to convince Sony to add DVD-A playback to PS3? Maybe once SACD is officially 'dead' they won't care anymore?

The sad thing is that it's already codec-compatible (TrueHD can play MLP), just not format compatible. :(
 

lachesis

Member
We (ABC) broadcast in 720p because 720p is better suited for moving pictures, than interlaced 1080i. 1080i might have better resolution and might be better for a still picture, but 720p is better for moving images due to it's progressive nature.

..and that's what was in the ABC execs HD guide 101 few years ago.. pretty much.

Not sure about CBS, but I'm quite certain NBC is broadcasting 1080i, so add some political justification there. :)
 
I wish all OTA broadcast would switch to 720p. It is easier to compress, and everybody around here seems to think they can run standard-def subchannels (of weather radar and such) without screwing up the HD picture quality. They are very, very wrong. PBS is especially bad, running no fewer than two full-rate SD subchannels during their 'HD' broadcasts.
 

Raistlin

Post Count: 9999
beermonkey@tehbias said:
The sad thing is that it's already codec-compatible (TrueHD can play MLP), just not format compatible. :(

Yep ... that's why it would be easy.

They could simply sell a 'license' (firmware update) that turns it on. The software to run it would be ridiculously easy to write. It already has the correct laser and the correct codec ... it just needs a UI.
 

Kleegamefan

K. LEE GAIDEN
Onix said:
Yep ... that's why it would be easy.

They could simply sell a 'license' (firmware update) that turns it on. The software to run it would be ridiculously easy to write. It already has the correct laser and the correct codec ... it just needs a UI.



That will never happen....Politically, DVDA to SACD is like HD-DVD is to Blu-ray or VHS is to Beta(even though Sony eventually supported VHS)

There will never, ever be a Sony branded DVDA player, IMO....
 

Raistlin

Post Count: 9999
Kleegamefan said:
That will never happen....Politically, DVDA to SACD is like HD-DVD is to Blu-ray or VHS is to Beta(even though Sony eventually supported VHS)

There will never, ever be a Sony branded DVDA player, IMO....


Most likely.

The only way it would really happen is if SACD died, and DVD-A was popular.






I'm just saying it would be nice if Sony did it since they are both dead. Obviously if it were expensive, it would be a dumb move ... however, it would be pretty easy since the HW and codec are there. They just need the UI, etc.

I understand it won't ... I'm just saying it would be cool ... and wouldn't hurt Sony in any real way.
 

Raistlin

Post Count: 9999
* Currently it's known that the audio quality of DTS is especially good compared to other audio codecs as heard in playing 480p DVD via HDMI with more bandwidth for the audio. SCE don't know the definitive reason. They just ported the reference source code provided by DTS with as high precision as possible.


I found this quite interesting.


I thought I was hallucinating, but my limited playback on the PS3 yielded these results (and they weren't tainted by having read this previously).

I'm going to do some more testing, but I will say that the currently the PS3 with DTS DVD does have the best sound I've heard for this codec.



The problem I had initially is that I've been doing a TON of changes to my HT in the past year. My speakers were all upgraded about a year ago ... but I had some time to test those, so I'm 'used to the sound'.

However, within the last 6 months, I purchased a multi-channel amp (that I was using with my then-current receiver) ... and then about 3 months ago replaced the receiver with a new pre/pro.

With all of these changes (and not attempting A/Bing when I got my PS3), I initially told myself the improved sound quality was due to my previous system changes ... and maybe a little bit of 'new toy' syndrome.



After reading this, I'm not so sure. I'll try to test my dedicated DVD player versus the PS3.

This is interesting though ... I know of no other DVD player that uses the same level of precision in the decoding of DTS (64-bit) ... so it is possible the round-off errors we are used to, are more detrimental than anyone realized.

God shit here!
 

HokieJoe

Member
Kleegamefan said:
Yeah...MI:III on Blu-ray has bitrate peaks of 38mbps during the bridge missile scene....you will never see those kind of peaks on HD-DVD since the MAX bitrate for that format(audio, video and data) is only 36mbps...


Yeah, but the price that they pay for that high bit rate (using MPEG2) is that MI:III has no uncompressed audio options. The only extra on the movie disc proper is audio commentary. The point is, with H.264 or VC-1 you probably don't even need bit rates that high for just the movie and the soundtrack.

Actually, I wish that Paramount had released the HD-DVD version in a 2-disc set like the Bluray release: MOVIE DISC w/HD audio + EXTRA's DISC
 
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