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WordAssassin
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sscrew said:Dude, dont forget to obvious fact its top loading :lol Right their you cant sit anything ontop of it if you want to be able to insert games
What are you talking about? The only top-loading console since.... the Dreamcast is the Gamecube. The PS2, PStwo, Xbox, and Xbox 360 all have slide-out trays. Which means that feasably, you can stack something on top of all of them (although the PStwo is very tiny, and the Xbox/Xbox360 have convex/concave tops.)
op_ivy said:dude, its flat. flat.
see? coffee mug has a flat base. it appears curved from the viewing angle.
op_ivy wins. End of thread-jack.
Project Midway
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Atleast my PStwo is a top-loader...WordAssassin said:
I never said it was prespective-less, its a 100% straight on shot. Their is no illusion of a curve, the side is curved.scola said:
Dont give me no shit about it being an angle causing it or anything to that extent. The image is straight on. That is curved. Its no from an angle. And the reason for a coffee cup having a curved look is because the face of it is curved. The base is a circle.... therefore the front on shot shows everything meeting up to the base being curved. Being a straight on shot, what reason do we have to beleive its being caused by anything other than the fact it is curved? If it was the fact of perspective, the other end would also appear to be curved... being their is not any angle on the picture.... as the top and bottom are both the exact same size in width. Therefore the shot is straight on, any angle would make the left side appear further away than the right or vice versa.
GhaleonEB said:
Good for your 2 year old, but being i have a brain and i use it, i look at the whole picture... and if the side was curved from perspective, than other ratios would appear different also. Such as the width of the right hand side.... it should appear to be narrower than the left, if the right hand side is going to appear to be rounded. Its great, you all assume you are so intelligent, and you cant see that it is actually a curve and not an angle illusion in a photo. Its not appearing to be rounded because their is an angle to the photo, it appears that way for one of two reasons. The face opposite the hard drive is curved, or the front face has a curved edge that overhands.
golem said:
I'd like a slot loading machine but....
I've had a pioneer slot loader drive in my PC and it wasn't that quiet. Also cost would factor into this I think. (I'm assuming it's more expensive to make) Especially at the amount of machines being made and extra 1 dollar here or there adds up very quickly.
Well tell me exactly how one end is curved, and the other isnt in a 100% straight on photo.... if it where angle, one end would appear to be further than the other and thus actually grow smaller and round off. Its straight on, if it werent things like hte DVD drive would not look so even, the top and bottom wouldnt be so perfectly even, the concave wouldnt be so perfect... it isnt even a rounding off that a photo would show due to angle anyways. It sorta starts an extreme angle and gets to barely any rounding.WordAssassin said:
Im pretty intelligent and i know what his point is, but he nor anyone else seems to see my point. Think of symetrics... its straight on and anything that the perspective on one side shows, should theoritically show on the other side if the photo is indeed straight on. Given the dimensions seeming to be perfectly squared in the 4 corners, the text, the DVD drive etc. seeming to be perfectly squared also, i cant see how their could be an angle whatsoever... it would change how far away one side was to the other, and we would be able to tell. Being its straight on, if it where an angle causing the curve, symetrics would show the other side appearing to be curved too... being it isnt... i take it to be that the other side is curved.
Now you might think im stupid still, im am very stubborn thats for sure. But my reasons for beleiving this aren't without merit. And its a different cup of tea (no pun intended) than the cup posted.
Uhhh thats where the source of light is coming from that causes the shadowing.... it has nothing to do with what angle you look at something. If their where an angle, it wouldnt just change one side of the object and the lighting of the object, the entire object as a whole would change perspective and shape. One side would show further away, appear smaller, cruved etc. Not just cause an appeared curve, but otherwise look perfect.3pheMeraLmiX said:
You know what, you're right. There are several things about the computer renders that are inaccurate, as has already been pointed out. Among other things, the curvature on both the bottom and the sides is exaggerated. The top side curvature looks about right relative to the photos. You can move on with life now.
Could very well be due to an inacurate render.... but please realise i was just defending myself against people insulting my intelligence. Im not stupid, i saw their point of view. But they didnt even consider mine. I was more defending myself than giving my own personal opinion, it was just a thought i had, and gave reasoning for why i thought it possible. By no stretch of the imagination am i trying to make it fact, or want it to be fact. I hope this is what it looks like, in the dull plastic look they show from the corner picture with the HDD bay on it... that looks nice, plain and sexy. Wont stand out too much in an entertainment unit, wont look bulky and ugly. What more could one ask for?Rhindle said:
sscrew said:
The lighting indicates it's a rounded face plate e.g. it tapers in at the edges. The highlights match the curvature of the supposed arc you're imagining, which illustrates that the curvature is not a result of a rounded underside.
Plus, logically, what do you think makes more sense for a console specifically designed for both vertical on horizontal placement?
WordAssassin
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sly said:The PStwo is a top-loader.
Oh, oops! Well, I'm an ass. Yay for me.
One side curves and evens out. THe other doesnt. The side that curves and evens out is totally flat on account of the Hard Drive/Expansion bay area. Their is shading to suggest that the front face has some sort of concave to it... but as establish earlier, the render is inacurate and lots of things conflict with on another. Using shading as a basis for concave ont he front face, i would say the front is similar to the sides when vertical, only with a lip at the bottom, it would explain the rounded appearance on just one side. If both sides curve and go flat like the other side, then the added lip could definitely throw in a curved look. I hadnt really looked at the DVD tray side rounding on the corners at all, but more its flatness on the Hard Disk Drive area. I guess until with have a proper product shot, it will be hard to tell. Looking at it with different thoughts gives different results. But i can definitely see the base being flat if the front does indeed have a curve with a lip on it at that point.... and thinking about it, standing up with that at the bottom might look decent.
eso76
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Yeah, they obviously designed the base convex so that when you try to put it upright it falls and crashes. MS marketing thought this would double the sales.
Come on, it's short sides are flat; that drawing / render is inaccurate in many ways compared to the photograph, it's not worth debating over that.
The curvature in the picture indicates that either the front face is CONVEX (and NOT concave) or its short sides are concave. The pic is too small to tell for sure, but i am almost positive it's shaped like this aweful sketch which took me a whole 20 secs to make
Standing upright (and defying perspective laws)
I'll try to model a poly model when i have the time
The fact the right part of the render curves more could be because the "camera" which 'took the pic' was placed on the left, or because when sitting horizontally, the console is not symmetric, with the right end standing out more (being 'deeper' on what should be the base when it's upright). of course, this would look very cool when placed vertical, but completely stupid when placed horizontally.
Come on, it's short sides are flat; that drawing / render is inaccurate in many ways compared to the photograph, it's not worth debating over that.
The curvature in the picture indicates that either the front face is CONVEX (and NOT concave) or its short sides are concave. The pic is too small to tell for sure, but i am almost positive it's shaped like this aweful sketch which took me a whole 20 secs to make
Standing upright (and defying perspective laws)
I'll try to model a poly model when i have the time
The fact the right part of the render curves more could be because the "camera" which 'took the pic' was placed on the left, or because when sitting horizontally, the console is not symmetric, with the right end standing out more (being 'deeper' on what should be the base when it's upright). of course, this would look very cool when placed vertical, but completely stupid when placed horizontally.
Actually i was more of the opinion originally that it was meant to sit on the Hard Disc drive. I kind of hope that the final look however has the look of that dull plastic shot from an angle. The render looks kind of meh IMO... although with the little lip their, im think now that this thing will nearly look like a PC when standing upright. I remember something being said about the sides of this thing being easily moddable, and it being white in color. Any idea of the truth to those? If this is the final thing, it definitely isnt even close to white and the sides, well, they could remove like a PC case does i guess. But if that where the case, it would make it easy to access the hardware and for people wanting to do illegal things with modchips in them, give them a way of doing so without voiding their warranty.
But going of those sketches and the plastic model photo, it could look pretty neat. Much improved over the current Xbox. I kinda want a bit of weight in it though, and for some nice rubber stoppers on the bottom, i like how my Xbox doesnt budge when using the power button or eject buttons, connecting controllers etc. My PS2 is lighter and has more of hardplastic stoppers and it slides around.
But going of those sketches and the plastic model photo, it could look pretty neat. Much improved over the current Xbox. I kinda want a bit of weight in it though, and for some nice rubber stoppers on the bottom, i like how my Xbox doesnt budge when using the power button or eject buttons, connecting controllers etc. My PS2 is lighter and has more of hardplastic stoppers and it slides around.
eso76
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Naa, it will definately sit on the side opposite to the hd. It's too small to be the base, and you're supposed to be able to remove it anytime.
I also hope the pictures are more 'final' than the render; I like the picture and the rough plastic look quite a lot, but the "render" is kind of ugly.
Yes, someone confirmed most panels will come off and be replaced with different colors; it still won't give access to 360's hardware i think; most likely there's another layer of metal panels beneath the removable ones, which cannot be removed without voiding the warranty.
I still can't understand if the power button is concave or convex from that drawing...
I also hope the pictures are more 'final' than the render; I like the picture and the rough plastic look quite a lot, but the "render" is kind of ugly.
Yes, someone confirmed most panels will come off and be replaced with different colors; it still won't give access to 360's hardware i think; most likely there's another layer of metal panels beneath the removable ones, which cannot be removed without voiding the warranty.
I still can't understand if the power button is concave or convex from that drawing...
Azure Dream
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eso76 said:
The straight-on art asset, you mean? It's convex. The lighting (mostly based on the left, but this is a mockup drawing, so there might be some goofs on the artist's part) wouldn't be able to hit both the lip of the base and the interior of a concave power button like that.
So, based on the straight-on art asset, it sticks out. A huge green-glowing power button. Yay.
Chittagong
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I don't understand what's the point on arguing over an Adobe Illustrator mock-up drawing anyway. Somebody did a vector drawing (probably to avoid from being accused of leaking assets given to press with a certain publishing date) , used some gradients and blends to give it some depth, and didn't pay attention in getting it 100% accurate - if the drawing really was a 2D projection from exactly front, you wouldn't see the curvature in other ways than shading. I say it's just a sloppy draw job.
I think the actual photo from Our Colony shows very clearly that the front is curved and the ends flat.
Common sense, why the fuck would the other end be curved?
PS. This reminds me of the "it's a speaker!" argument.
I think the actual photo from Our Colony shows very clearly that the front is curved and the ends flat.
Common sense, why the fuck would the other end be curved?
PS. This reminds me of the "it's a speaker!" argument.
eso76
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Kulock said:
uhm...based on the art asset...well it's just wrong, but i tend to think it's concave
See, the thing seems to be lit from below-left (you can see that if you look closely at the engraved text for memory card slots, and the smell beveled surfaces, like that port at the bottom) concave bevels have their right side lit and the left one in shadow, so i guess the power button is meant to look concave..and i hope it is because i doubt it would look good otherwise; it would resemble some sort of bellybutton..
And i was thinking, looking at the 2 pictures; why the silverish 'cap' where the hd display should be ? i mean, it's pretty obvious that that part is removable and its replaced by the hd unit, so why retaining the lcd display shape and size for the cap ?
(maybe you can pull that silver cap out and it becomes some sort of handle...)
Hitler Stole My Potato
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eso76 said:Should end up looking something like this
yeah, yeah, terrible sketch but i think it's not too distant from the actual console
I like! It looks a little chunky there but otherwise I've got no complaints.
Nice job on the sketch.
ImNotLikeThem
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nope I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. the light is not coming from the bottom left, its coming from the top right. look at the eject button adn the try. notice the shine on the top right. its obvious that these are both convex. but it doesn't matter anyway, its a picture-perfect HAND EDITED design model, and it's not supposed to be physically accurate to the lighting. Until we get some actual pictures of this damn thing, from all angles, its pointless speculation anyway.eso76 said:uhm...based on the art asset...well it's just wrong, but i tend to think it's concave
See, the thing seems to be lit from below-left (you can see that if you look closely at the engraved text for memory card slots, and the smell beveled surfaces, like that port at the bottom) concave bevels have their right side lit and the left one in shadow, so i guess the power button is meant to look concave..and i hope it is because i doubt it would look good otherwise; it would resemble some sort of bellybutton..
"Apparently" the logo, but something like this could probably be very easily faked now that we've seen the whole font on the system etc:
From: http://www.xbox365.com/news.cgi?id=GGGrPNdLNL04240755
It doesn't look very clean (looks a little "edited"..not exactly pristine high resolution PR-asset quality), and I'm leaning on fake, but I guess it would have shown up here anyway..
From: http://www.xbox365.com/news.cgi?id=GGGrPNdLNL04240755
It doesn't look very clean (looks a little "edited"..not exactly pristine high resolution PR-asset quality), and I'm leaning on fake, but I guess it would have shown up here anyway..
gofreak said:"Apparently" the logo, but something like this could probably be very easily faked now that we've seen the whole font on the system etc:
From: http://www.xbox365.com/news.cgi?id=GGGrPNdLNL04240755
It doesn't look very clean (looks a little "edited"..not exactly pristine high resolution PR-asset quality), and I'm leaning on fake, but I guess it would have shown up here anyway..
That had better be fake. It looks horrible.
eso76
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ImNotLikeThem said:
Yes, if you look at the tray, eject button and xbox360 engraved text it looks like the light's coming from top right, but if you look at memory card ports and other things it looks like the light is coming from bottom left. This drawing has lots of mistakes, that's why i can't understand if the power button was meant to look concave or convex; but yeah, enough speculating over this, it's clearly just someone's drawing.
MassiveAttack
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gofreak said:"Apparently" the logo, but something like this could probably be very easily faked now that we've seen the whole font on the system etc:
From: http://www.xbox365.com/news.cgi?id=GGGrPNdLNL04240755
It doesn't look very clean (looks a little "edited"..not exactly pristine high resolution PR-asset quality), and I'm leaning on fake, but I guess it would have shown up here anyway..
lol the XBOX360 is nice, the logo is horrid, as i said when something similar appeared on the e3 invitation (though that wasnt this ugly) it looks like some ate then threw up the dreamcast logo
A logo should be something anyone could remember and draw, not something spewed out by a demented spirograph
F
Folder
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LOL!Ghost said:I managed to get this exclusive image from the MTV show of the designers at work on the Xbox 360.
Good lad!
KyotoMecca
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Razoric said:
Rumor Control has been smoking crack for months. This is an established GAF fact.
Logo = mocked up ("fake"), by the way.
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Folder
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Rumor Control:KyotoMecca said:
Sees rumour.
Calls related company.
Get's no comment.
Declares as bogus.
Everyone believes them.
Rumour comes true.
GS makes like nothing happened.
The fact that GS can only get a "We don't comment on rumour or speculation" from companies like Nintendo is astonishing.
PhoncipleBone
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64MB mem card?