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Any Disney nerds here?

dcll

Banned
I was in Goodwill just now and I saw some Disney VHS tapes and I have heard they can be valuable so I looked them up and the prices are all over the place. I went ahead and bought them since they were only 99 cents each. Two are Fantasia Masterpiece, one is still in shrink wrap. The other is Little Mermaid banned cover Black Diamond The Classics edition
 
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Quasicat

Member
I’m curious if it’s the 1990 Fantasia release:

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This is my absolute favorite home video release as it is the last one featuring Deems Taylor’s real voice. After this, the audio tracks were so badly degraded for the higher resolution releases that they rerecorded the whole thing. To me, this is the “official” release even though it did have a couple of scenes altered due to the black horses. I looked everywhere in college for the original film as I had a way to transfer it digitally at the campus media center. I found the 1942 Roadshow version and Song of the South canister films online and still have then in my collection.
 
I have zero interest in Disney but am a pretty avid VHS collector so have some knowledge on the subject just as a result of my hobby.

the tl;dr version is that you want black diamond that are in black clamshells. problem is that clamshells are easy to swap out.

not all black diamonds are worth something. Robin Hood black diamond in a black clamshell tends to be one of the most valuable ones (I think), as I think it was the first black diamond release.

Song of the South can be worth something as it was fairly limited in its release.

eBay isn't a good indicator as there will be tons of fake auctions/prices. all the $30k bullshit you see posted is fake.

to make things even more confusing, flicks like Beauty and the Beast got special releases that are really sought after.

the Disney VHS market is a whole thing in itself and would require some research. this information isn't secret or anything, I'm sure you could easily google a decent guide or youtube video explaining it.

edit: take this all with a grain of salt. I tend to focus on exploitation/horror/DTV/SOV/etc. so this is really outside my comfort zone. that isn't to say the films I collect aren't also very valuable. for example, I was following this auction for 555 just recently. ended up selling for over $400

 
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GeorgioCostanzaX

Gold Member
I have song of the south on dvd.
I’ve got the Disney Goes to War set complete with the short where Donald has a dream that he’s Hitler and another one where he almost commits suicide: good times kids today are pandered to.

Edit: also fuck you /s I just bid on a copy of Song of the South on eBay I worked at Disney Interactive so can’t resist having physical evidence of how racist Disney used to be ;)
 
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jason10mm

Gold Member
What about The Black Cauldron? That one on d+ yet? That used to be really hard to get.

I have some old disney books that have some Briar Rabbit stories in them. I'm not sure that film is as bad as folks think. Could be wrong though, beed a stretch since I"ve seen it.

Now the black centaur (sunflower?) bit in Fantasia, yeah that probably ought to be cut.
 

TransTrender

Gold Member
Sure, the box art may be coveted, but nobody's watching VHS anymore.
Even if there isn't a Blu-Ray or DVD release you're watching a VOD or Laser Disk rip.
 

ManaByte

Member
What about The Black Cauldron? That one on d+ yet? That used to be really hard to get.
It was never really hard to get, they were just ashamed of it due to how badly it bombed.

And Katzenberg destroyed the movie by cutting and DESTROYING footage from it.
 

dcll

Banned
I’m curious if it’s the 1990 Fantasia release:

7MZC6ZK.jpg


This is my absolute favorite home video release as it is the last one featuring Deems Taylor’s real voice. After this, the audio tracks were so badly degraded for the higher resolution releases that they rerecorded the whole thing. To me, this is the “official” release even though it did have a couple of scenes altered due to the black horses. I looked everywhere in college for the original film as I had a way to transfer it digitally at the campus media center. I found the 1942 Roadshow version and Song of the South canister films online and still have then in my collection.
 

Quasicat

Member
My only sealed VHS copy is the January 1999 release of The Rescuers:
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I was working at Duckwall/ALCO at the time when we got a recall notice on it, due to a picture of a naked woman in the background of two frames. I immediately bought a copy before I pulled the stock. Three months later, Disney rereleased it in identical packaging with the only difference being a red sticker on the plastic that said “Special Reissue”.
 
few reasons

1. the most obvious being even in 2022 some movies can simply only be viewed on VHS. take for example the ebay listing I posted in this very thread for 555. I haven't been able to find a stream for that flick anywhere. I will agree that with streaming this has become much less of a problem, but still some movies can only be found on VHS

2. some movies look better on VHS. I know this might sound absurd, but lots of 70s and 80s low budget flicks actually look worse at higher resolution/cleaner image. take for example Rawhead Rex.

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I recently rewatched this on Shudder streaming. it was objectively a worse experience because the costume looked crappy at the higher resolution.

3. there is something comforting about watching films on VHS. the experience of browsing through your VHS library, grabbing a tape, sticking it in the VCR, and watching it in all its grainy beauty feels like a warm hug, reminiscent of my childhood where I would spend hours in the local movie rental store. the whole process of watching a flick on VHS, from admiring the amazing cover art to just finding joy in using something like a VCR in 2022, is just really special. to be fair, I'm fairly nostalgic about old tech in general. I still use several computers that are +20 years old, mp3 players that are +20 years old, etc. old tech is comforting for me.

there is nothing quite like VHS/beta tapes.

 
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Saber

Member
My only sealed VHS copy is the January 1999 release of The Rescuers:
RLKi1T8.jpg

I was working at Duckwall/ALCO at the time when we got a recall notice on it, due to a picture of a naked woman in the background of two frames. I immediately bought a copy before I pulled the stock. Three months later, Disney rereleased it in identical packaging with the only difference being a red sticker on the plastic that said “Special Reissue”.

This video is basically my childhood. Here in Brazil, some movies names change drastically so I never knew the real name of this movie. Here is called "Bernado e Bianca"(Bernado and Bianca).
Still got mad after I lost my Lion King VHS. My mother though our last maid stole from us.
 

SpiceRacz

Member
few reasons

1. the most obvious being even in 2022 some movies can simply only be viewed on VHS. take for example the ebay listing I posted in this very thread for 555. I haven't been able to find a stream for that flick anywhere. I will agree that with streaming this has become much less of a problem, but still some movies can only be found on VHS

2. some movies look better on VHS. I know this might sound absurd, but lots of 70s and 80s low budget flicks actually look worse at higher resolution/cleaner image. take for example Rawhead Rex.

d22c34994256cc3b54c9c9a669741211983e2e77_hq.gif


I recently rewatched this on Shudder streaming. it was objectively a worse experience because the costume looked crappy at the higher resolution.

3. there is something comforting about watching films on VHS. the experience of browsing through your VHS library, grabbing a tape, sticking it in the VCR, and watching it in all its grainy beauty feels like a warm hug, reminiscent of my childhood where I would spend hours in the local movie rental store. the whole process of watching a flick on VHS, from admiring the amazing cover art to just finding joy in using something like a VCR in 2022, is just really special. to be fair, I'm fairly nostalgic about old tech in general. I still use several computers that are +20 years old, mp3 players that are +20 years old, etc. old tech is comforting for me.

there is nothing quite like VHS/beta tapes.



Those are valid points. Especially your point about some movies being unavailable in other formats. I collected laserdisc for a period of time and there was a surprising amount of films and documentaries only available on LD. A lot of stuff I would never have seen otherwise. Also didn't hurt that the quality and picture of certain films, particularly Disney stuff, was more accurate and better on Laserdisc than even DVD versions.
 

bitbydeath

Gold Member
Some of the obscure movies wind up on YouTube. If you haven’t watched Freaked before, you’re missing out.

 

teezzy

Banned
few reasons

1. the most obvious being even in 2022 some movies can simply only be viewed on VHS. take for example the ebay listing I posted in this very thread for 555. I haven't been able to find a stream for that flick anywhere. I will agree that with streaming this has become much less of a problem, but still some movies can only be found on VHS

2. some movies look better on VHS. I know this might sound absurd, but lots of 70s and 80s low budget flicks actually look worse at higher resolution/cleaner image. take for example Rawhead Rex.

d22c34994256cc3b54c9c9a669741211983e2e77_hq.gif


I recently rewatched this on Shudder streaming. it was objectively a worse experience because the costume looked crappy at the higher resolution.

3. there is something comforting about watching films on VHS. the experience of browsing through your VHS library, grabbing a tape, sticking it in the VCR, and watching it in all its grainy beauty feels like a warm hug, reminiscent of my childhood where I would spend hours in the local movie rental store. the whole process of watching a flick on VHS, from admiring the amazing cover art to just finding joy in using something like a VCR in 2022, is just really special. to be fair, I'm fairly nostalgic about old tech in general. I still use several computers that are +20 years old, mp3 players that are +20 years old, etc. old tech is comforting for me.

there is nothing quite like VHS/beta tapes.



You're low-key one of my favorite dudes here

How many CRTs you own?
 

SegaShack

Member
The movies aren't worth anything and are found in thrift-stores everywhere.

The same ones that go for 30k with joke bidders have thousands listed for a dollar.

Those articles from a few years back were 100% inaccurate.
 
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I need less honestly. I "saved" a few from getting tossed out and now I feel like a hoarding freak

Does your wife dig the VHS tapes?
She’s a good sport - doesn’t watch them but doesn’t mind me buying them

I also collect rare old movie posters from some pretty obscure flicks. Those she hates.
 

TDiddyLive

Member
Edit: also fuck you /s I just bid on a copy of Song of the South on eBay I worked at Disney Interactive so can’t resist having physical evidence of how racist Disney used to be ;)
I never understood this take. How is this movie racist? It takes place after the Civil War on a plantation. Everybody loves Uncle Remus and his stories. He sings Zippidy Doo Dah. Uncle Remus was such a great character James Baskett became the first black man to receive an Oscar. Disneyland still has a ride based on the movie (Splash Mountain).
 

SegaShack

Member
I never understood this take. How is this movie racist? It takes place after the Civil War on a plantation. Everybody loves Uncle Remus and his stories. He sings Zippidy Doo Dah. Uncle Remus was such a great character James Baskett became the first black man to receive an Oscar. Disneyland still has a ride based on the movie (Splash Mountain).
I agree with you the movie isnt as bad as people make it out to be. It's Disney's fault the movie has so much notoriety, cause they banned it in the late 80s.

Splash Mountain at Disneyland and Magic Kingdom are being rethemed.
 

TDiddyLive

Member
I agree with you the movie isnt as bad as people make it out to be. It's Disney's fault the movie has so much notoriety, cause they banned it in the late 80s.

Splash Mountain at Disneyland and Magic Kingdom are being rethemed.
It’s being rethemed more because of its age than anything. And the ride is still currently open.
 

NahaNago

Member
I rarely even see vhs tapes in the used stores these days. I still have about a dozen anime tapes but no vhs player.
 

Artoris

Gold Member
I still have my VHS collection and VHS player connected to the downstairs TV, but I have not used them in more than ten years
there is also a dead PS3 and an original Mac mini connected to the same TV
 
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