Snowybreak
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Mob takes the fifth, eh? Hmm...
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APNewsBreak: Source says Flynn to invoke 5th Amendment
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Mob takes the fifth, eh? Hmm...
TheCochese
Banned
Dude is never going to get out of jail without doing a deal.
CNN has more:
A new letter from the leading Democrat on the House oversight committee, Rep. Elijah Cummings, reveals new information about former national security adviser Michael Flynn and what he told investigators about his ties to foreign governments when he was interviewed about his security clearance.
According to the Report of Investigation, which Cummings refers to in his letter to committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz, Flynn made false statements to investigators about who funded his foreign trips, including a 2015 trip to Russia where Flynn was paid roughly $45,000 to speak at an event in Moscow. According to the letter released today by Democrats on the committee, Flynn claimed they his trips were funded by "US companies."
The report stated that Flynn said he "had not received any benefit from a foreign country."
Flynn also claimed to investigators he had no substantial contacts with foreign government officials, saying he only had "insubstantial contact." Flynn was shown sitting next to Russian President Vladimir Putin at the 2015 dinner.
Source: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/22/p...-flynn-letter0908PMVODtopLink&linkId=37889264
A new letter from the leading Democrat on the House oversight committee, Rep. Elijah Cummings, reveals new information about former national security adviser Michael Flynn and what he told investigators about his ties to foreign governments when he was interviewed about his security clearance.
According to the Report of Investigation, which Cummings refers to in his letter to committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz, Flynn made false statements to investigators about who funded his foreign trips, including a 2015 trip to Russia where Flynn was paid roughly $45,000 to speak at an event in Moscow. According to the letter released today by Democrats on the committee, Flynn claimed they his trips were funded by "US companies."
The report stated that Flynn said he "had not received any benefit from a foreign country."
Flynn also claimed to investigators he had no substantial contacts with foreign government officials, saying he only had "insubstantial contact." Flynn was shown sitting next to Russian President Vladimir Putin at the 2015 dinner.
Source: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/22/p...-flynn-letter0908PMVODtopLink&linkId=37889264
$45k?!
Didn't know treason was so cheap.
BlastProcessing
Member
Flynn was a career military guy so he wasn't really flush with cash. The way these things work is they get you for a relatively small amount of money or a small favor. Then they use that as a foundation to gradually build the relationship. If you ever try to back out, they can just blackmail you to keep you in line.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
The right to not incriminate oneself is as important as freedom of speech and you should probably read up on the 5th Amendment before suggesting shit like this.
Atomic Playboy
Member
Permanently imprisoning political foes without a trial is a great way to prove your side has the moral high ground.
encephalon
Member
timetokill
Banned
Huh, I thought the 5th was just about testimony, I didn't realize you could withhold physical evidence using it.
RPGCrazied
Member
Welp, time to hold him in contempt then. Congress has that power. If he doesn't comply issue his arrest warrant.
Technosteve
Banned
he's going to snitch on trump or runs to the russians for protection
demosthenes
Member
I hope the democrats play his "lock her up" chant at 2018 and 2020 as commercials to show who trump and others backed.
BudokaiMR2
Member
I was under this impression as well, but I'm not an expert.
I thought it was in regards to testimony so that someone couldn't get caught up in semantics that could play well with the jury, etc.
Anyone who knows more, please school me!
EdibleKnife
Member
Don't forget the "If I'd have done a tenth of what she did, I'd be in jail" quote
Septimus Prime
Member
It's mentioned in an article someone linked, but basically, while the documents themselves are not protected, the act of producing specific documents could be considered testimony.
The could hold him in contempt for this, but even then it would go to the US Attorney, who may or may not press charges.
yanipheonu
Member
Actually...
To be fair, if Trump did this, it would be just as unpopular, and just fan the fire growing around them.
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
The bit about businesses not being able to plead the fifth, oh man el oh el. No wonder Flynn wanted immunity. Dudes been neck deep in dirt for a while now.
GiantEnemyGoomba
Member
It honestly seems like Flynn is utterly fucked. This coming from someone that doesn't think it can be definitively said Donald directly colluded with Russia.
JeTmAn81
Member
Jiminy crickets, I just came into this thread to scan through all three pages to make sure nobody had posted this first so I could do it. It's literally the first reply.
I really hope they try this defense.
God I hope so! He's an asshole for starting that "Lock her up!" nonsense while doing dirt himself. I am not a Hillary fan at all but the hypocrisy is just too much.
RPGCrazied
Member
There really is a Simpsons GIF for everything. All they have to do is charge him with contempt. Then he will do anything they want or go to jail.
Flynn be like
Lmao
RPGCrazied
Member
Yep! 5pm is really bad for Trump lately.
NullPointer
Member
Apparently you haven't heard of Mo' Money, Mo' Problems. So can you really say he got a "benefit"?
Fenderputty
Banned
Can his business just refuse a congressional subpoena though?
Damn it, they're even beating us to all the best punchlines.
Damn these guys are good.
The whole point of it seems to be to get people talking about the corruption in this administration, though, and people are still talking about last night's terror attack, with the increased UK threat level suggesting they expect more.
That's all very important & news-worthy. That said, it splits focus if 2 big stories drop at once. I think we're on a delay for the Trump stuff for now.
RoyaleDuke
Banned
What a twist.
I mean really, he's a fucking russian puppet. The entire administration and probably the entire GOP are, at this point nothing would surprise me.
I died when I scrolled and saw this posted. GAF never change.
I mean really, he's a fucking russian puppet. The entire administration and probably the entire GOP are, at this point nothing would surprise me.
I died when I scrolled and saw this posted. GAF never change.
Laevateinn
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BlastProcessing
Member
Massive political pressure. It would be a very difficult thing for the GOP to sell to their constituents so they would get punished at the polls.
Beyond that, some of the cases could be State and not federal. We know that the NY AG has his own investigation. The President can only pardon Federal charges, not state charges. Flynn could probably escape state charges but people like Manafort probably won't.
