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[Zach]

Dunno if anyone posted it, but on JR's podcast Meltz said that AJ/Shane will probably be his highest rated match of Mania lol.

Let's see your ratings, Sir_Crocodile! Here are mine:

Neville/Aries - ****
Mojo Battle Royale - 1/16*
Ambrose/Corbin - **
Styles/McMahon - ***
Owens/Jericho - **
Bayley and co. - ***1/2
Hardyz, etc. - **1/2
Cena and friends - *1/2
Rollins/H - **
Orton/Wyatt - **
Goldberg/Lesnar - *1/2
Naomi and more - *
Undertaker/Reigns - RIP

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

Isn't that the consensus? I remember many agreeing with that in the Mania thread.

Yeah, but the very idea that THAT is the bar blows my mind given the talent vince has.

Just god tier mismanagement.

Although I guess Aries/Neville would have been a lot better if it happened after the sun went down.

 

[Heroman]

Dunno if anyone posted it, but on JR's podcast Meltz said that AJ/Shane will probably be his highest rated match of Mania lol.

That's Sad

 

[ReiGun]

The Shining Stars push got killed because the moment they walked out for their proper debut they got greeted with a crowd so silent that Corpus Christi looked like Full Sail in comparison.

I still don't get why they're heels. They just want people to vacation in Puerto Rico.

 

[Sephzilla]

Why is it sad that the best wrestler in the promotion but on the best match of the night?

 

[Caderfix]

...During the pull-apart, Orndorff landed a perfect punch that knocked Vader silly. While Vader was on the ground on his back, Orndorff began kicking him in the face. Luckily, he was wearing sandals, so it could have been way worse...

THIS WAS A SHOOT!

That made me laugh so much for some reason.

 

[Bluekaveli]

Dunno if anyone posted it, but on JR's podcast Meltz said that AJ/Shane will probably be his highest rated match of Mania lol.

Well Shane did great job carrying that match.

 

[Zach]

I'd probably give Jerichowens **1/2 today. I don't think I was considering the finger on the rope when I made those knee-jerk ratings immediately after Manio.

 

[FlammableD]

I thought Naomi was supposed to be good now?

I didn't think you could make the Benadryller look shittier, but she managed it.

/dead

 

[Sephzilla]

I thought Naomi was supposed to be good now?

You were worked. Her intro is good, she isn't

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

Let's see your ratings, Sir_Crocodile! Here are mine:

Neville/Aries - ***
Mojo Battle Royale - dud
Ambrose/Corbin - *
Styles/McMahon - ***
Owens/Jericho - **
Bayley and co. - **½
Hardyz, etc. - ***
Cena and friends - *
Rollins/H - **
Orton/Wyatt - *
Goldberg/Lesnar - **½
Naomi and more - *
Undertaker/Reigns - dud

 

[Cagey]

I thought Naomi was supposed to be good now?

I didn't think you could make the Benadryller look shittier, but she managed it.


/dead

Speaking of.. does Hideo Itami exist as a thing still?

 

[Beefy]

If I could book WWE, I would do everything I could to dispell the notion of a heel or a babyface.

I would make Roman talk like does in real life.

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

Speaking of.. does Hideo Itami exist as a thing still?

He's cleared to wrestle

 

[Sephzilla]

Neville/Aries - ***
Mojo Battle Royale - MINUS. FIVE. STARS.
Ambrose/Corbin - *½
Styles/McMahon - ***½
Owens/Jericho - **½
Bayley and co. - **½
Hardyz, etc. - ***
Cena and friends - *
Rollins/H - **
Orton/Wyatt - **
Goldberg/Lesnar - **½
Naomi and more - ½
Undertaker/Reigns - *

 

[FlammableD]

You were worked. Her intro is good, she isn't

Everyone seemed to be raving about her

 

[Sephzilla]

Everyone seemed to be raving about her

I don't get it. I find her the 5th best talent on the Smackdown roster at best

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

Everyone seemed to be raving about her

They're just fondly remembering the raves they went to in the nineties

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

I thought Naomi was supposed to be good now?

I didn't think you could make the Benadryller look shittier, but she managed it.


/dead

Naomi's entrance is over and popular. She got a title push because Orlando and she dances.

 

[Rouse]

Dudes got a crown. He's the king until someone takes it. It is known.

Didnt Galvatron crush that?!?

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

How does that Naomi move look when good?

 

[avengers23]

God damn Pepsi. lol!

How fucking lame. Hope no one out there has a Pepsi tattoo. Shameful.

Truly, Pepsi took a plunge.

Bonus: fat baby Hero.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

Neville/Aries - ****
Mojo Battle Royale - *
Ambrose/Corbin - *
Styles/McMahon - **
Owens/Jericho - **
Bayley and co. - **
Hardyz, etc. - ****
Cena and friends - **
Rollins/H - *
Orton/Wyatt - **
Goldberg/Lesnar - **
Naomi and more - *
Undertaker/Reigns - *

 

[Kaladin]

Neville/Aries - ***
Mojo Battle Royale - MINUS. FIVE. STARS.
Ambrose/Corbin - *½
Styles/McMahon - ***½
Owens/Jericho - **½
Bayley and co. - **½
Hardyz, etc. - ***
Cena and friends - *
Rollins/H - **
Orton/Wyatt - **
Goldberg/Lesnar - **½
Naomi and more - ½
Undertaker/Reigns - *

Only things I'd change :

Styles/McMahon - ***
Rollins/H - ***½
Goldberg/Lesnar - ***

 

[Sephzilla]

Rollins/HHH was not better than AJ/Shane, though

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

This promo should be playing 24/7 on NXT tv's. TJP is like 1/18th of this charisma.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9py4aMK3aIU

 

[Kaladin]

Rollins/HHH was not better than AJ/Shane, though

The Pedigree exchange sequence says otherwise.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Rollins vs HHH was boring as fuck with the crowd not caring until the last five minutes when everything picked up. Five minutes of good stuff in a 25+ minute match isn't a good thing.

 

[Sephzilla]

The Pedigree exchange sequence says otherwise.

The rest of the match being a snoozefest and Rollins forgetting to sell his knee says otherwise.

The Pedigree exchange at the end was pretty good though, I'll give you that.

 

[Beefy]

Rollins vs HHH was boring as fuck with the crowd not caring until the last five minutes.

But Rollins set fire to the ramp....

 

[Kaladin]

The rest of the match being a snoozefest and Rollins forgetting to sell his knee says otherwise.

The Pedigree exchange at the end though was pretty good.

I actually liked that Rollins didn't oversell his knee. It wasn't so much a snoozefest as the crowd was burned out by the matches that came before it. It suffered from bad placement more than anything.

 

[Foggy]

Shane/AJ would have been infinitely better if it wasn't frontloaded with weekend warrior jiu jitsu.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

You know who managed to have a great match with Triple H who was in the Shield but wasn't Roman or Seth? And with no gimmicks required?

 

[Recall]

The Pedigree exchange sequence says otherwise.

90 quality seconds doesn't negate 23 other minutes of boring bullshit.

 

[FlammableD]

How does that Naomi move look when good?

"good"

It's my most hated thing Ricochet does.

It looks OK when he does it more like a Pele rather than waiting for the other guy to land, making the fireman's carry pointless...

 

[Sephzilla]

You know who managed to have a great match with Triple H who was in the Shield but wasn't Roman or Seth? And with no gimmicks required?

Daniel Bryan and Dean Ambrose are probably the only great solo matches HHH has had since... damn, I can't remember

 

[Beefy]

You know who managed to have a great match with Triple H who was in the Shield but wasn't Roman or Seth? And with no gimmicks required?

Ambrose has become lazy as fuck though

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

This promo should be playing 24/7 on NXT tv's. TJP is like 1/18th of this charisma.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9py4aMK3aIU

NXT's quality in writing and storylines has taken such a nosedive since Dusty's passing.

 

[Kaladin]

The only real knock I'd give the Rollins/HHH match is they brought out the table too soon. Nobody is going to believe a pinfall with an un-used table in play.

 

[Sephzilla]

NXT's quality has taken such a nosedive since Dusty's passing.

Dusty passing plus the NXT creative team moving to Smackdown

The only real knock I'd give the Rollins/HHH match is they brought out the table too soon. Nobody is going to believe a pinfall with an un-used table in play.

One of my friends pointed out that Rollins brought out the table, set up the table, and then immediately ignored its existence. Like, there wasn't even any kind of table spot tease leading up to it because Rollins immediately disregarded the table upon setting it up.

 

[Bluekaveli]

It was a boring match, deal with it. Another dud for THE GAME-UHHH

 

[Sephzilla]

I really wish Bret Hart, Jake Roberts, and Scott Hall were all working with NXT. I feel like the three of them could collectively help fill the void Dusty left there. Unfortunately Roberts and Hall are probably too risky for WWE to employ.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

Seth's selling game was shitty during the match too.

'Lemme use consistent knee based offense throughout the match but don't worry for about twenty seconds I'll scream and grab my knee and move around the ring in pain on the ground but then I'll stand and hit Triple H with more knee based offense but I'll hit the ground again and again, and let's keep repeating it until I get my win with a move that literally involves me jumping up in the air and crashing down on my knees.'

 

[Kaladin]

One of my friends pointed out that Rollins brought out the table, set up the table, and then immediately ignored its existence. Like, there wasn't even any kind of table spot tease leading up to it because Rollins immediately disregarded the table upon setting it up.

True, they brought it out and ignored it. It was even one of those rare spots where the person setting up the table didn't go through it.

 

[Rodeo Clown]

Shoot: I think the only straight up blemishes on Ambrose last year are the Lesnar match and the Ziggler match. One of those isn't his fault.

His matches against KO, Triple H, the triple threats that he was in (Fastlane, Battleground, No Mercy), his matches against AJ, they are all good to great.

 

[I Wanna Be The Guy]

Aries vs Neville was the biggest disappointment of the night. I expected match of the night and I got an average at best match with little to no excitement. It could have been a 205 Live main event. Pretty much every match disappointed me except Rollins vs HHH, the Raw ladder match and and AJ vs Shane.

LOVED HHH Rollins by the way. That was the match that had me on the edge of my seat from start to finish.

 

[Sephzilla]

Shoot: I think the only straight up blemishes on Ambrose last year are the Lesnar match and the Ziggler match. One of those isn't his fault.

His matches against KO, Triple H, the triple threats that he was in (Fastlane, Battleground, No Mercy), his matches against AJ, they are all good to great.

You know what, I actually think I'm going to side with you on this. I think Ambrose has slacked off since WrestleMania last year but I do think that maybe the hate on Ambrose is getting to be a little too much. I think it didn't help that Ambrose got called out by Steve Austin and then put out that Dolph Ziggler stinker not long after.

 

[BewareTheBatsie]

The Shield triple threat at Battleground was kinda disappointing and that's more really on WWE then the actual guys. It was an okay match wrestling-wise but for the big Shield triple threat, it ended up being a good enough match on a B PPV to head into the brand split.

It's a match that could easily main event a Wrestlemania if they put the right amount of build into it.

 

[Damn Silly]

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[BronsonLee]

Simon Gotch got released