mechashiva
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At the show in New York last year I could have blocked Ricochet as he flipped over my booth and hit Pac. I stood by and did nothing but cheer hysterically.
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At the show in New York last year I could have blocked Ricochet as he flipped over my booth and hit Pac. I stood by and did nothing but cheer hysterically.
BoboBrazil
Member
He's already supposed to be a heel. Crowd will cheer him against mostly anyone though as he's a bigger star than anyone they have. It's made worse because everyone hates Cena, but they refuse to turn him. Also, you can't do one edgy storyline to try and bring in older fans and resort to the same boring PG shit for the rest of the show like they are doing. It just doesn't make sense.
UberTag
Member
If they're not building to Cena being on the shelf (and c'mon the guy deserves a vacation from work and we deserve a vacation from him), I'm not sure where they're going with this.
You can't make Brock Lesnar a heel among the anti-Cena set because 1) he's Brock Lesnar, former WWE monster, 2) he's Brock Lesnar, former UFC monster (pre-diverculitis thing), and 3) he's Brock Lesnar, the guy who wants to kill John Cena.
I honestly can't see it happening, ever.
Also, having been gone for a week, was the reaction here to last week's RAW (caught up on DVR yesterday) that (outside the first segment) it was a "fast forward x3" / 10?
EDIT: Catching up on Smackdown now... the Kane/Orton thing was a good way to make an otherwise "why do they hate each other again?" feud interesting.
I honestly can't see it happening, ever.
Also, having been gone for a week, was the reaction here to last week's RAW (caught up on DVR yesterday) that (outside the first segment) it was a "fast forward x3" / 10?
EDIT: Catching up on Smackdown now... the Kane/Orton thing was a good way to make an otherwise "why do they hate each other again?" feud interesting.
British Monsoon
Member
For me, they don't even need to turn Cena - just do SOMETHING with his character. And no, slapping Brock is NOT character development. Cena was putting SO MUCH emphasis on how important the Rock match was to him before WM, why isn't he more despondent after his loss? Why isn't his confidence shaken? Why isn't he ashamed that he let the CeNation down? Brock should totally fuck Cena up at Extreme Rules and force him to leave for a while, or even better, Brock makes Cena look like a chump and then he leaves voluntarily, to 'get his head back in the game' or something, only to return down the line, SummerSlam maybe, for a re-match.
Liquidsnake
Banned
OK, I will take back what I said. I will watch RAW tonight for the crowd.
Yeah, I want Cena to get destroyed but not how the Miz did it in that I quit match. I want Cena to blade and Brock puts Cena in choke hold with him bleeding until he passes out. That will put over Brock gimmick of him being legit.
Wait, asking is ban material now? But people always did it :\
I was just asking since people are talking about reactions so thought it might be on.
Perspicacity
Banned
Oh no, I was completely genuine with that statement.
Brock is just so fantastic at being a generally douche, oversized schoolyard bully, it's just who he is. It's like right now we're cheering for him because we paid him $5 to go beat up Cena, who sucks but then I'm fully expecting him to turn around after he's done and beat us up just because.
It's either to build a future returning Cena into a comeback story we can get behind (but won't), or to turn Punk into a giant-slayer (further alienating Punk's insecure weird IWC fanbase and to steal more cues from Punk's ROH run in that it'll likely play out like the Joe series). Either way I'm expecting it to be good
Asking for illegal material is always bannable, it just has lax enforcement in this thread because [some reason?]
Brock is just so fantastic at being a generally douche, oversized schoolyard bully, it's just who he is. It's like right now we're cheering for him because we paid him $5 to go beat up Cena, who sucks but then I'm fully expecting him to turn around after he's done and beat us up just because.
It's either to build a future returning Cena into a comeback story we can get behind (but won't), or to turn Punk into a giant-slayer (further alienating Punk's insecure weird IWC fanbase and to steal more cues from Punk's ROH run in that it'll likely play out like the Joe series). Either way I'm expecting it to be good
Asking for illegal material is always bannable, it just has lax enforcement in this thread because [some reason?]
Smart business move by them. They give us the B shows because they know they're going to sell out and get a hot crowd no matter what.
Last five PPV's here: No Mercy 2007, Judgment Day 2009, Night of Champions 2010, Money in the Bank 2011, Extreme Rules 2012.
We're dying for something big like a Royal Rumble, Summerslam, or Survivor Series like they've brought to Madison Square Garden, but like I said, business-wise they don't need to do it -- even though I'm sure they would jack up the prices on tickets to a level even more ridiculous than they are now.
Evening Musuko
Black Korea
They were pretty lax about it until very very recently. I've never seen anyone banned for lamp begging or for even saying they're watching via lamp before the WM thread.
Professor Beef
Banned
God dammit, I know I shouldn't be getting excited over an episode of Raw, but some of those segments sound...well, they DON'T sound like a complete turd.
I hate you, WrestleGAF, for getting my interests up in this very likely shit-show. But I love you for those same reasons.
It may also be because lamp-begging for a PPV is clearly illegal, while lamp-begging for a "free" show is in a murky area. I could be (and probably am) wrong, however.
I hate you, WrestleGAF, for getting my interests up in this very likely shit-show. But I love you for those same reasons.
It may also be because lamp-begging for a PPV is clearly illegal, while lamp-begging for a "free" show is in a murky area. I could be (and probably am) wrong, however.
cr_blah_blah
Member
We're all in it together, Broski.
You can always watch it tomorrow, or later tonight and enjoy the use of the FF button on your DVR. In fact, if you're watching RAW without a dvr and a delay of at least one hour, you're doing it wrong.
So good. Excited for Raw now.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
I can't wait to see GAF erupt when Raw airs and they've completely cut Bryan out the show.
That will be a virtual riot.
Who?
Nah. Cena condoning it in his promos means WWE are fine with it now.
I bet that shirt is selling well too.
Professor Beef
Banned
I don't own a DVR, but I've always gone to Youtube if I miss a show.
sf2fanatic
Member
We all know Brock is gonna win. Rock won wrestlemania against Cena. Case closed
Or we see a screw job in the making
Beside Extreme Rules and Cena don't mix
Nah, Ryback will go on to be the first ever undefeated former WWE Champion.
Just got back. Don't follow the wrestling but we took my uncle (who has downs) anyone else who went there I'm sure saw him. He had a blast really got into it, also wrestling fans are a such a nice bunch, were a good sport with him and played along with him too, two dudes in particular came and hugged him after as well after playing around with him before the show. I just watched him. A night to remember for me. I'm knackered so will update tomorrow. Also the old wcw ref was a class act. He conversed and played along with my uncle too after the show. Let him go to the ring and everything.
p.s. the only thing I came away with us YES is really popular throughout the night. even on the tube lol. I now like the bearded man... yes!
p.s. the only thing I came away with us YES is really popular throughout the night. even on the tube lol. I now like the bearded man... yes!
Holy crap.
Raw spoiler
Raw spoiler
3. Kane fought Zack Ryder to an apparent no-contest. Ryder came out to a small pop, which disappointed Russell who is wearing his Broski shirt. Kane got an average pop. He chokeslammed Ryder, but never bothered to pin him. Instead, he cut a promo about beating up Bob Orton Jr. on Smackdown. There was no finish to the match.
How much worse can they bury Ryder? Kane doesn't even find him worthy enough to pin him?LOL!!
How much worse can they bury Ryder? Kane doesn't even find him worthy enough to pin him?LOL!!
sf2fanatic
Member
Sorry Playa but Kane only punishes people. Not pin them...Otherwise his win record would be great
yeah was confusing. no pin. Also the main event was cool. Everyone ran out. Del Rio ran out, big show, Orton.
Ninja Scooter
Member
is Brock Lardnar supposed to be at RAW tonight or did the WWE not pay for tonight's appearance?
Shoot, they'll probably still call it a victory for Kane. Tensai rule.
Besides, punishment means more than a silly pin. Right guys?
BoboBrazil
Member
He appears in a pretape most likely filmed last week.
BoboBrazil
Member
pwtorch.com said:
The stock has dropped 44.1% since the beginning of 2011.
Isn't like 75% of their stock owned by the McMahons?
BoboBrazil
Member
Last numbers I could find state the McMahon's own 61% of the stock and those numbers are from midway through 2011. WWE stock is in a freefall. Probably why they announced those Mania numbers today to try and stop it, but it didn't matter.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Apple should buy the WWE.
It's probably going to fall even more when the Network launches and starts to fail due to a low subscription rating.
Fixed.
BoboBrazil
Member
Yeah, but at this point I have my doubts if the network will even launch. Either way they've already invested alot of money into that will be wasted. Every metric of their business was down double digits last year, except for ppv and that was saved by the Rock appearing on Mania and Survivor Series. Take Rock out of the equation and ppv buys have dropped 50% since 2010.
Didn't MitB 2011 go up 20% from 2010's?
Good its just a reflection of the shitty product
sf2fanatic
Member
If its a good show I would rewatch it on Saturday on DirecTV
BoboBrazil
Member
MITB went up, but going up 20% after a major angle on something that did 100,000-120,000 buys is not alot honestly. You are only looking at an additional 20-30k buys. That's nothing. I was a little off on my ppv numbers. Here's a post from Dave Meltzer on his message board. He's gotten into a lengthy debate with someone who says Stephanie is a success as head of creative.
Dave Meltzer said:
Shadowlink
Member
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