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Are Sony actually going to change the PS3 controller?

psycho_snake

I went to WAGs boutique and all I got was a sniff
It was mentioned once during E3 that the ontroller that they did unviel was not going to be the final one that will be released with Playstation 3, but thats all I heard about it. I have been thinking that maybe it was just a rumour to settle people down because ther were so many negative thoughts about it, but since E3, nothing at all has been said about the controller and its slightly worrying me.

The current PS3 controller looks very uncomfortable, it doesnt look as though myself and others will be able to play a game and actually hold it with comfort, so Im hoping that the controller being changed is not just a rumour and that we will hear about it soon. Have Sony actually siad themselves that the controller that they unvieled will not be the final one?
 
They haven't said much, although someone high up recently said something to the tune of "When you see the controller next it might have some interesting things to it" or something to that effect.

However, I'm still withholding judgment. I'm skeptical too, but someone recently pointed out that Alpine PSX controller was the same shape and it got rave reviews for comfort and useability. So I hope it's just one of them really ugly things that melts in your hands if they do go with it.

Nevertheless, I wish they went with a more Dual Shock-esque look so I know it'd be comfortable without having to even think about it :P
 
Phil Harrison said at TGS:

"We have a very interesting new addition to the PS3 controller"

I think they are trying to do something new with it.
I made a speculative concept drawing a little while ago:

DualShock3.jpg
 
hey ami, do you have the source to the article about that person saying that it will have some interetsing things?

Obviously its too early to actually say anything about the controller, none of us or anyone else outside of Sony have actually got to use the controller, so for all we know it could be like what you said ami...one of those ugly things that work really well:D, but hopefully they do scrap the controller for a better looking more comfortable one, like the Dual shock

I cant understand why they could not have just stuck with the dual shcok and made some improvements to it. It was great and by far the most comfortable controller this generation. Why did they need to change somethign that worked so well!?
 
psycho_snake said:
I cant understand why they could not have just stuck with the dual shcok and made some improvements to it. It was great and by far the most comfortable controller this generation. Why did they need to change somethign that worked so well!?

Immersion Lawsuit..... or maybe they just got tired of the same design after ten years.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Immersion lawsuit had to do with Sony's technical implementation of force feedback, not the shape of the controller itself. The new controller shape shouldn't have anything to do with the Immersion suit.
 
Rumor was that the shape of the motor was so intrinsically linked to the Dual Shock design that removing it and shoehorning something in would change the very shape of the controller.

In other words, that's why I covered myself by saying that maybe they just lost interest in the same design after ten years.
 
Azrael said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Immersion lawsuit had to do with Sony's technical implementation of force feedback, not the shape of the controller itself. The new controller shape shouldn't have anything to do with the Immersion suit.

You are correct. It's the technology of the rumble feature that caused the lawsuit.
 
It'd be hilarious if they gave it Revolution features.


"Yeah, we copied, the real question is, what are you gonna do about it?"
 
Ghost said:
It'd be hilarious if they gave it Revolution features.


"Yeah, we copied, the real question is, what are you gonna do about it?"

You have my vote. I wish this to be so just so I can read the GAF thread. That's why I wish the worst things to happen in the game world these days. The threads are sometimes at least 60% as fun as the games/systems themselves.
 
Ghost said:
It'd be hilarious if they gave it Revolution features.


"Yeah, we copied, the real question is, what are you gonna do about it?"

:lol To which 100 million people would reply "bend over and like it!!"

As long as someone makes an adapter where I can use the 360 controllers on PS3, I don't give a damn what Sony comes up with...I doubt it's gonna touch the 360 design anyway.
 
the controller seems like it could be very comfy. one of the side pics that i saw of it totally made it seem like they just copied the prongs from the GameCube controller.

if all they do is just make the controller more comfortable, im gonna be very confused if people continue to bitch about the way it looks. so fuckin what if it looks like a boomerang. i didn't realize people constantly looked at their controllers while playing a game.

bottom line. if it's more comfortable, you have no reason to complain since it has the same exact layout as the DS2, which so many of you are quite fond of.
 
Shinobi said:
Ah, the Dual Shit 2...yeah, that basically let's you know what I think of it. :lol
i already came to that conclusion when i saw that you wanted a 360 to PS3 controller converter.

nothing wrong with that though. the 360 controller feels very fuckin nice.
 
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The PS3 controller looks well... plasticky, the buttons look as though they are not aligned properly, the buttons look as though they will get stuck and I'm not sure you could reach those sholder buttons without slipping.

I'll need to try it out though ...
 
I agree with phantomile on this one. Who the fuck cares how the controller looks as long as it comfy, this goes for the rev and x360 controller too.
I would be really surprised if Sony presented this controller if they didn't feel it's better than the old. If they cave in and choose the old design just because some people think it looks like a Boomerang/banana/whatever would be quite moronic.
 
Xellotah said:
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The PS3 controller looks well... plasticky, the buttons look as though they are not aligned properly, the buttons look as though they will get stuck and I'm not sure you could reach those sholder buttons without slipping.

I'll need to try it out though ...

Croissant.JPG
 
no two ways about it, it's the ugliest first party controller I have ever seen (bar the dreamcast)
 
catfish said:
no two ways about it, it's the ugliest first party controller I have ever seen (bar the dreamcast)

Maybe I'm a freak of some sort, but I care more about how a controller feels and how well it works as a controller than what it looks like. I mean, I can see how the hopelessly insecure might be concerned about the shape of their controller, but that's about it.
 
Yeah, fuck the looks...that's not the issue for me. The buttons just don't look very comfortable to me. Plus there are no triggers, which to me is just ridiculous.
 
Who cares if it's comfortable? I don't find the current PS2 controller to be particularly comfortable. Sony needs to worry about how this thing looks to the casuals.
 
It doesn't look comfortable at all to me, but I'll wait until I've held it.

Not that I find the dual shock particularly comfortable, but I'd have kept it the way it is if it was a choice between comfort or having the left stick in the better position and triggers added.

At least they're making some chances I suppose, I thought they were going to leave us with the same controller forever.
 
Personally, I wouldn't be too worried about the controller. What it looks like shouldn't dictate how it feels. That's what is most important.

I thought the N64 controller looked odd and uncomfortable when I first saw it, but that turned out to be great at the time.
 
iapetus said:
Maybe I'm a freak of some sort, but I care more about how a controller feels and how well it works as a controller than what it looks like. I mean, I can see how the hopelessly insecure might be concerned about the shape of their controller, but that's about it.


I think thats whats causing some concern. People are looking at it and assuming its been designed for its form, not its function. Possibly unfounded, but you can understand the reasoning.
 
yep - perhaps the guy who posted the topic speaks REAL english instead of the bastardised american version...
 
mrklaw said:
I think thats whats causing some concern. People are looking at it and assuming its been designed for its form, not its function. Possibly unfounded, but you can understand the reasoning.

Ah, right. That's why I keep seeing in-depth discussions of the functionality of the controller based on the pictures rather than countless hilarious banana/croissant/batarang photoshops.
 
I'm still waiting on hands-on impressions until I pass judgement on that thing. Who would make an uncomfortable controller on purpose, anyway?


Oh wait...*remembers the xbrick*
 
jett said:
I'm still waiting on hands-on impressions until I pass judgement on that thing. Who would make an uncomfortable controller on purpose, anyway?


Oh wait...*remembers the xbrick*

The thing is, hands on impressions from someone else won't really help. You have to hold it for yourself and for an extended period of time. I find the dual shock 2 deplorable, but some people like it.
 
the thing is, if it's functional and comfortable, who the heck cares what it looks like?? I'm sure Sony's not going to screw up the controls.
 
iapetus said:
Ah, right. That's why I keep seeing in-depth discussions of the functionality of the controller based on the pictures rather than countless hilarious banana/croissant/batarang photoshops.

Yes, but lots of people really liked the way the Dual Shock worked, so any deviation from that for apparantly cosmetic purposes (no other obvious button layout changes/additions) makes people nervous.


Me? I hate the dual shock with its slippery little analog sticks with wishy-washy dead zones, no triggers for racing games, the L1 and R1 being too high up to hold comfortably, the pointless analog buttons that you end up pressing too hard in case you aren't registering 100%......
 
Shinobi said:
Yeah, fuck the looks...that's not the issue for me. The buttons just don't look very comfortable to me. Plus there are no triggers, which to me is just ridiculous.

I've never been able to figure this out, why do people want triggers? I don't see why they're funtionally needed. Maybe if you want to change the rate of firing a gun. But couldn't you just use a analog button or that?

Has anyone actually held the PS3 controller? Based on looks alone isn't really good enough to judge its functionality. It may well be rather ergonomic.
 
Sony: "We tried to toss out the old design, but it keeps coming back"

I can't believe this joke hasn't been made yet, wtf GAF?
 
I hate the DS2... But at least it's functional. The PS3 controller looks horrible. The triggers are in a horrible position. Looks like the controller will slip right out of your hands when you go to press them. The thing is so curved ontop it doesn't look like their is much support all. They also need to swap the left analog position with the d-pad, and make the fucking d-pad solid.

If anything, fix the d-pad. It has always sucked. It will still suck on the PS3 controller.
 
genjiZERO said:
I've never been able to figure this out, why do people want triggers? I don't see why they're funtionally needed. Maybe if you want to change the rate of firing a gun. But couldn't you just use a analog button or that?

Analog buttons are the fucking devil. I can't stand them. There is so little range of sensitivity with them you're either not hitting them hard enough or way too fucking hard. And well, triggers give you a very large range of sensitivity. They also make controlling FPS titles much easier. Instead of having to try and pound buttons you can gentley squeeze the triggers, and you don't have to cram your index fingers against the top of the controller to use the buttons. Much more comfortable on the hands making it easier to effectively use the right analog stick imo. The advantages for racing games should be beyond obvious that I don't need to mention them. Triggers are a must blah blah blah.
 
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