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[TTP]

I like how TTP didn't even address my responses at all.

o rly? What about reading?

1. pushing/pulling - it's all the same. It's exerting a force. Your argument is pure semantics and doesn't make the physics involved any different. So no, they aren't two different moves.

It's not with semantics that you get past a door that says PULL by pushing it. However u see it, they are two different moves, one closer to the actual act of pushing a pedal than the other.

2. I can't agree with this at all.

Try to make an argument if you want a response.

I've played GT3. I ended up using the right joystick as my throttle. That's how much analog buttons suck

GT4 and MotoGP have same of the best calibrated pressure detection. On a more general level all you need to "get" the pressure sensitive controls is some practice. Your body will learn to apply the proper pressure as much as it already does whenever you are grabbing an egg or a controller or whatever. You dont really need bars for that. You just do that intuitively. And that's what happens to me with the analogue buttons. It has just become second nature.

4. I have, conclusion - they blow.

Try to make an argument if you want a response.

 

[TTP]

:lol And excuses like this come from people who refuse to admit that triggers shits on Sony's sorry ass band aid. Hey, if blowjobbing your Soup Bone 2 makes you feel good, who am I to get in the way.

Indeed. Who are you? Should I dislike analog buttons because you said so?

No reasonable excuse can be made not to have them, as TTP has comically showed.

Dude, care to point out were I said I dont want triggers? Please do. What I'm saying is that analogue buttons dont suck and that I personally prefer them over the triggers. Dr_Cogent stated something as a fact, and I'm pointing out that that's just his opinion, which differs from mine and I've tried to explain my point. What's your contribute to this discussion a part from a couple of :lols and some personal attacks?

 

[Dr_Cogent]

o rly? What about reading?

Try to make an argument if you want a response.

Try to make an argument if you want a response.

Some things don't warrant a response. In other cases, I pretty much decimated your argument. The whole push/pull argument is bullshit to begin with like I already said. You didn't counter it at all - because you couldn't.

 

[Dr_Cogent]

Dr_Cogent stated something as a fact, and I'm pointing out that that's just his opinion, which differs from mine and I've tried to explain my point. What's your contribute to this discussion a part from a couple of :lols and some personal attacks?

I didn't state anything as fact, if I had - I would have said so. Please point me to a spot where I said what I was saying was fact. When I claim something to be a fact, I will note it as such by saying it is indeed a fact. If I don't say its a fact, then it's by default my opinion.

I'm relying on the reader to have some common sense here. Obviously some don't.

 

[TTP]

Ok man, if pushing a button and pulling a trigger are the very same moves more power to you. I think we can agree we disagree on this.

 

[clearacell]

I'm really hoping hoping the design changes, or that when you hold it, it's very comfortable. Otherwise I'm afraid there's going to be a lot of lonely PS3 controllers going unused

If it sucks, I'll probably end up getting a Logitech controller that looks like the DS2

 

[Shinobi]

Indeed. Who are you? Should I dislike analog buttons because you said so?

Did I say you should dislike anything? No. Did I say you should do anything? No. If you want to jam a nailed down fish hook into your nose, then jump off a ten storey ledge to see if the line will hold, will I tell you to stop? No. What you like is of ZERO consequence to me. I was clearly talking about what I like, which is all that matters. You're not that dim, so don't act like it.

Dude, care to point out were I said I dont want triggers? Please do. What I'm saying is that analogue buttons dont suck and that I personally prefer them over the triggers. Dr_Cogent stated something as a fact, and I'm pointing out that that's just his opinion, which differs from mine and I've tried to explain my point. What's your contribute to this discussion a part from a couple of :lols and some personal attacks?

I'll do that after you point out where I said I disliked analog buttons. It's an easy game to play isn't it? Analog buttons are fine to have, but they're not a replacement for triggers in the view of myself and others, and that's something you seem to have some angry issue with based on your bitchy responses. So I merely responded in kind, as I'm want to do. If I was getting personal, I'd have said a lot more then that.

 

[psycho_snake]

psycho,

Well, I can't judge feel from looks, but I would love the PS3 controllers to have a more tactile feel on the joysticks instead of the smooth feel they have on the DS.

I wouldn't be too worried about the looks of it though. You have to hold it in your hand. Just like we have to hold the Revo controller in our hands before we can really tell if it's good or not. Both may be great controllers. The thing also is, you may love the new PS3 controller while I may not, or visa versa. Your best bet would probably to read impressions, play at a kiosk if possible or play someones PS3 before you purchase it if you are worried about how the controller feel will for you.

I think it's the same as books - don't judge it by its cover. Sony has said they are going to change it, but talk is cheap. It may be exactly the same or something even radically different. The proof will be in the pudding as they say.

I agree about them changing a better grip on the joystick. Its not that they suck, but sometimes your finger can slip off when you're i the middle of something intense :lol

I doubt that they might make the controller radically different though. Tere were some people who were predicting that Sony might make somethign more similar to the revo controller and I just cant see that happening. If they do go for a complete makeover, I
would expect them to make an improved version of DS or something similar to it, but if thier word is true about the changes, It will probably be a few little changes to the original controller.

 

[Endymion]

Some things don't warrant a response. In other cases, I pretty much decimated your argument. The whole push/pull argument is bullshit to begin with like I already said. You didn't counter it at all - because you couldn't.

Decimate?

First you ridicule a person with your "Is Sony" - "Are Sony" joke (grammar says plural is perfectly appropiate), then self-proclame victorius over an argument by stating completely false assumptions:

"pushing/pulling - it's all the same. It's exerting a force.

To Pull: to apply force to so as to cause or tend to cause motion towards the source of the force

To Push: to exert force against an object to move it away.

In your world kicking, pushing, sucking and farting would all be the same.

"Your argument is pure semantics "

No, it actually explains a critical distinction that goes to the heart of the problem.

""So no, they aren't two different moves."

You wish they weren't.