Are the mods here getting paid by MS?

Mod of War said:
That's not what it is.

As I have said in other threads in the past, we can't see everything. 90% of our actions are done through the report feature.

I will sometimes action or step in to "course correct" with a reminder post if I am hanging out in threads and see something myself as well.

We rely on the report feature. If we don't see many reports, we assume the community is operating and tolerating the current state of the climate (sorry Greta).

If you see a post that you feel is trolling or stepping over the line, please utilize the report feature. I can't stress that enough. But with that said, don't abuse it either. Some posts, while fanatical in tone, are not actionable and should be challenged back. Those are usually the ones we reject.

This community is each and every one of yours as well. Help shape it and be more proactive and less reactive.

Thoughts?
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That's entirely reasonable.
I've also seen far worse on other forums.

Just have a strong hunch there's one mod out there who's a bit biased since the next-gen rumors and news haslve really started recently.
Not worth any drama though, but I can see the point OP was making.
 
Psykodad said:
That's entirely reasonable.
I've also seen far worse on other forums.

Just have a strong hunch there's one mod out there who's a bit biased since the next-gen rumors and news haslve really started recently.
Not worth any drama though, but I can see the point OP was making.
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People will have their preferences, that is human nature.

I can assure you however, that it doesn't impact their moderating. Actions taken are by committee more often than not. Especially by those of us that have a preference, we will ask for fellow mods to take a look at it.

Great group of moderators here that don't put a bias flex on the situation. None of us "go rogue". We are not infallible, so there are times where an action one of us did is reversed when a different perspective is brought to our attention by EviLore EviLore or other admins.

We keep an open mind and talk it out, and vise / versa. Always stay learning.
 
Mod of War said:
People will have their preferences, that is human nature.

I can assure you however, that it doesn't impact their moderating. Actions taken are by committee more often than not. Especially by those of us that have a preference, we will ask for fellow mods to take a look at it.

Great group of moderators here that don't put a bias flex on the situation. None of us "go rogue". We are not infallible, so there are times where an action one of us did is reversed when a different perspective is brought to our attention by EviLore EviLore or other admins.

We keep an open mind and talk it out, and vise / versa. Always stay learning.
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Like I said, it's not worth any trouble.
In general I think the mods do a great job.
 
Mod of War said:
People will have their preferences, that is human nature.

I can assure you however, that it doesn't impact their moderating. Actions taken are by committee more often than not. Especially by those of us that have a preference, we will ask for fellow mods to take a look at it.

Great group of moderators here that don't put a bias flex on the situation. None of us "go rogue". We are not infallible, so there are times where an action one of us did is reversed when a different perspective is brought to our attention by EviLore EviLore or other admins.

We keep an open mind and talk it out, and vise / versa. Always stay learning.
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It's great that you guys learned from the whole Bishoptl fiasco. Well done! Keep up the great work. 👍
 
Palliasso said:
Additionally, administrators have access to a "moderator log" that shows what action was taken, on what post/thread, by what moderator, when, and even that moderator's IP address. While we may not continuously monitor this log, it's available for us to review if the need arises.
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I hope this is this, internally, referred to as the "Bishoptl contingency."
 
Vawn said:
Except you do it all the time.
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Vawn you are literally the worst xbox drive by shit poster on this board, you can't go a Microsoft thread without posting in it with negative comments even though you never plan on buying or choosing one. Deadset unhealthy.
 
As long as there are no personal attacks because you have a different plastic game machine a little bit of banter should be fun. I mean, i am a xbox user and i am kinda tired of the "but xbox has no games" but i said the same thing the last gen when the ps3 ports were kinda trash. I am sure a ps fan can come to my house and enjoy a good game the same way i can go to a ps user's house and play something on their machine and have a lot of fun.

What i mean is that i need written permission on this forum to go to your house. Oh wait, that's not what i meant, but yes, GIVE WRITTEN PERMISSION.
 
Ichabod said:
I hope this is this, internally, referred to as the "Bishoptl contingency."
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What ever happened to Bish? Did he leave during the schism? I remember when he was one of the mods you should never fuck with during my lurker days.

the memes were glorious
 
Mods.

Every time there's some fanboy stuff going and you have to resort to deleting posts, please remember some gamers think you are MS employees where your forum actions will make Xbox sales dramatically go up.

What's the trend? Every post taken down leads to 1000 unit sales?

lol
 
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Omeggos said:
What ever happened to Bish? Did he leave during the schism? I remember when he was one of the mods you should never fuck with during my lurker days.

the memes were glorious
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I agree. But I never liked that time. Too strict and many hiveminds. I was too hesitant to post at times. I just didn't want to be jumped on by hiveminds fulla ignorant idiots who thought they're funny but were far from it. I'd quickly get myself in trouble. Like how era is like now. I very much prefer gaf now.
 
TLZ said:
I agree. But I never liked that time. Too strict and many hiveminds. I was too hesitant to post at times. I just didn't want to be jumped on by hiveminds fulla ignorant idiots who thought they're funny but were far from it. I'd quickly get myself in trouble. Like how era is like now. I very much prefer gaf now.
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Um. What?
 
Omeggos said:
What ever happened to Bish? Did he leave during the schism? I remember when he was one of the mods you should never fuck with during my lurker days.

the memes were glorious
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Pretty sure he went to Restera. He was affiliated with Sony. I remember checking his Linkedin profile and he worked on stuff with Sony, and was buddies with a Sony director or something.
 
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StreetsofBeige said:
Pretty sure he went to Restera. He was affiliated with Sony. I remember checking his Linkedin profile and he worked on stuff with Sony, and was buddies with a Sony director or something.
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Ah, Id believe that. Though i dont recall him showing much of a bis. He was usually the buffer when it came to xbox one shittposting prior to and after the reveal
 
TLZ said:
What?
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The question i was asking was more related to whatever happened to bish, i guess i got a bit confused when i read "i agree"

for a moment i thought you replied to the wrong post. But rereading the post, i get it now.
 
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Omeggos said:
What ever happened to Bish? Did he leave during the schism? I remember when he was one of the mods you should never fuck with during my lurker days.

the memes were glorious
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I feel like there is so much story here that could be told but I'm not the one who's going to type it all out.

Bish is gone, and good fucking riddance. The end.
 
Omeggos said:
The question i was asking was more related to whatever happened to bish, i guess i got a bit confused when i read "i agree"

for a moment i thought you replied to the wrong post. But rereading the post, i get it now.
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:messenger_tears_of_joy: :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Sorry for the confusion. I meant I agree with what you said about bish. Then I went on talking about that time as well.
 
Omeggos said:
The question i was asking was more related to whatever happened to bish, i guess i got a bit confused when i read "i agree"

for a moment i thought you replied to the wrong post. But rereading the post, i get it now.
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he went on a rogue banning spree post trump election and was relieved of duties. I think he wrote a comic, not sure what he is doing now. Always enjoyed his posts.
 
Mod of War said:
Nah, no trouble at all mate. We are having an open and transparent conversation.

This is healthy.
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Guys, please dont compare Neo to Resetera. Its been a great place so far, changed A LOT once everyone left for Reset which was actually the best thing that happened here. I dont think we have any rogue mods here or that have ill will towards certain members. Not sure what OPs comment was but I too had one deleted before but hey it was understandable. I was talking about piracy on the Switch and they dont want piracy talk on the forum so fair play. Nothing to be upset about. Im just gonna assume mods here dont want all out console wars so they are trying to tame anything that might cause a stir.
 
Mattyp said:
Vawn you are literally the worst xbox drive by shit poster on this board, you can't go a Microsoft thread without posting in it with negative comments even though you never plan on buying or choosing one. Deadset unhealthy.
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From my short time here, I can vouch for this
 
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Bill O'Rights said:
Hi kretos kretos

The post was deleted as it really offered nothing to the debate. You're right there is a line of levity that we let users walk and on the surface it seems quite an innocuous comment. It was the first post in the thread however and all comments like this do is derail and antagonise other people. In terms of originality, these are two (of three) reports from that thread. One yours, one another user. Notice the post content:


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Both these posts have been deleted. We're all for fun, memes and a bit of good natured ribbing but some of the low effort throwaway comments are tiring. Because a lot of users have seen them. Moderation is about fairness and in this case, the chance for people with Xboxes to have a discussion about the quality of their IP's without shitposts, trumped your need to get a quick joke in (and a couple of other posters).


As illustrated above the joke is old and was worn out a long time ago. Similarly, if someone had gone into the 'Least favourite PS5 exclusive' thread and dropped 'Sony don't make games, just walking simulators' as the first post - it would have been moderated the same way. Now if the burn was legit or a brand new reaction gif (that GAF is famous for), we might have been inclined to leave it just for originality and effort. I'm sure you can see that's not the case here.


We let as much as we can go, in this instance we could have just issued a reply ban, but the decision was to delete the post and just send you a notification as to why it was deleted and hopefully you'd see why it was done. It seems you can't which is unfortunate. When we take actions they're not always to be seen as personal slights. The decision taken are usually based upon the least intrusive action to keep/course correct the thread. We can admit some things that crosss the line do invoke hearty laughs our end but there is a community as well to cater for. And making that experience miserable for others by persisting with worn out cliches sometimes has to take a back seat to perceptions. Having a thick skin is fine when people want to air certain opinions or thoughts. But there is also an element of developing a bit of thickness when acknowledging that certain posts don't actually bring a lot to a thread, and contextually don't land. Peace out.


I was never a fan of mods coming in, making a post then locking it, so I'm going to let this run for now. There's not really more I can add to the above, but you should have the right of response at least. If it derails further after that then it may get locked by myself or another mod subsequent to that :)



- Sent from my Microsoft Surface Laptop 3, Windows 10.1909, Edge Browser
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Praising the mother fucking sun.
 
kretos said:
So i made a joke post about MS had no good exclusives this gen in this thread: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/least-favorite-microsoft-exclusive-this-gen.1518370/

but it was deleted because it was "too old", but people were laughing, but even if it's not funny so what? i thought we had freedom of speech here unlike the other place

why did you do this my dude?
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Had I posted that same comment in a Sony thread, I would be banned.

I'd count your blessings that a post deletion with no warning was the worst you got.

How about trying to contribute to the community going forward, instead of derailing it?

Just a thought.
 
Someone accusing Xbox bias on Neogaf.com the site everyone calls SonyGaf on and off the site???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
 
Just to be clear I will take any form of monetary bonus to say that Xbox is indeed the best place to play
 
Old GAF would have OP banned at first post and the thread deleted.
Instead, now they're reasoning with him.

I love the new GAF.
 
Freedom Gate Co. said:
Someone accusing Xbox bias on Neogaf.com the site that XBox fanatics call SonyGaf on and off the site???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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Fixed to represent reality.

kretos kretos try resetera to know what a MS controlled forum really is like.
 
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