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[IdreamofHIME]

Sean Penn will lead the vanguard for Argentina.

 

[Souldestroyer Reborn]

Did they not shit a brick a few years ago when we sent over some of our Navy when they started the same whinging?

 

[funkypie]

The US stayed out of it the last time, Regan even wanted the British not to bother with the falklands

Yeah because the only 'ally' the U.S. Ever helps is Israel.

 

[John Dunbar]

Yes. But to Argentina the will of the people does not matter.

are there many countries to whom "the will of the people" would matter if a part of their country decided not to hang out with them anymore? of course the problem here is that argentina is entirely wrong to consider the falklands to be part of their country.

 

[Agent Gibbs]

Sean Penn will lead the vanguard for Argentina.

I'd really like that, i really would! Sean Penn is one of the most arrogant self righteous easily swayed band wagon jumpers the world has ever known! he only got involved because a free holiday and lots of attention got him on their side

 

[Nether!]

The last time I saw this topic come up on here I learned a lot about the situation.
I remember there was also an Argentinian poster who adamantly defended their country's ownership of the islands despite all evidence to the contrary.

 

[Vigilant Walrus]

Isn't there a lot of corruption in Argentina?


I really, really want to visit there though. I've heard that it is an amazing country, both in nature and its welcoming people. But is it also one of those countries were you have to be wary of getting mucked as a backpacker? me no espana comprende y me idiota i en una caballo pero yo cabrino "backpacker" cinco!

 

[Theonik]

"You come at the Queen, you best not miss"

I just noticed that hat is made to look like a crown. The queen is styling.

 

[Manu]

The last time I saw this topic come up on here I learned a lot about the situation.
I remember there was also an Argentinian poster who adamantly defended their country's ownership of the islands despite all evidence to the contrary.

We still have a lot of people like that, sadly, because it's what we're taught.

I can't even discuss the Falklands with my parents because they get irrationally angry over it.

 

[tolkir]

It happens something similar with Gibraltar and Spain. These things are very hard to solve on this age.

 

[Coriolanus]

Isn't there a lot of corruption in Argentina?


I really, really want to visit there though. I've heard that it is an amazing country, both in nature and its welcoming people. But is it also one of those countries were you have to be wary of getting mucked as a backpacker? me no espana comprende y me idiota i en una caballo pero yo cabrino "backpacker" cinco!

Yes.

Tbh, Uruguay and Chile are the only SA countries that don't have truckloads of corruption.

 

[| Praxis |]

Britain is ready Argentina

 

[Regulus Tera]

A populist regime is making popular choices in order to drum up support while the economy tanks.

Gee we never see that.

I don't think the majority of Argentines still care about the Falklands tbh.

 

[Akyan]

are there many countries to whom "the will of the people" would matter if a part of their country decided not to hang out with them anymore? of course the problem here is that argentina is entirely wrong to consider the falklands to be part of their country.

The UK is one at least. We had a referendum on Scottish independence very recently.

 

[goomba]

The UK is one at least. We had a referendum on Scottish independence very recently.

Uhh scotland had a referendum , i dont think britian would have accepted if scotland had voted for independance.

Crimea and east ukraine voted for independance, not many countries recognised the will of those people.

 

[Aegus]

Uhh scotland had a referendum , i dont think britian would have accepted if scotland had voted for independance.

Crimea and east ukraine voted for independance, not many countries recognised the will of those people.

Except the referendum was agreed upon between the Scottish Parliament and UK Government. If the UK Government wasn't going to accept the outcome if it was a yes vote then they'd not have had every major party leader going North of the Border for the first time in their lives to rally support for no.

 

[ferrasvansen]

Uhh scotland had a referendum , i dont think britian would have accepted if scotland had voted for independance.

Crimea and east ukraine voted for independance, not many countries recognised the will of those people.

Rubbish, the referendum was run with full UK government agreement.

 

[John Dunbar]

The UK is one at least. We had a referendum on Scottish independence very recently.

i am not an expert on how the uk works exactly, but aren't england, scotland and wales already countries, and the referendum was for scotland to leave the uk? isn't the uk technically a sovereign state or something like that?

but in any case, i did say "many". even if the uk counts (and i generally think they seem to be pretty cool if someone wants to bail), i still feel it's the exception rather than the rule. the guilt of a dead empire.

 

[operon]

Uhh scotland had a referendum , i dont think britian would have accepted if scotland had voted for independance.

Crimea and east ukraine voted for independance, not many countries recognised the will of those people.

Nonsense if Scotland voted yes, they would have became independent.

 

[NekoFever]

Argentina won't do anything. I remember when the UK deployed HMS Dauntless to the Falklands a couple of years ago it was reported that that ship alone had the capability to take out Argentina's entire air force before it took off.

 

[QuicheFontaine]

Uhh scotland had a referendum , i dont think britian would have accepted if scotland had voted for independance.

Crimea and east ukraine voted for independance, not many countries recognised the will of those people.

lol, you've no idea what you're talking about

 

[Log4Girlz]

i am not an expert on how the uk works exactly, but aren't england, scotland and wales already countries, and the referendum was for scotland to leave the uk? isn't the uk technically a sovereign state or something like that?

but in any case, i did say "many". even if the uk counts (and i generally think they seem to be pretty cool if someone wants to bail), i still feel it's the exception rather than the rule. the guilt of a dead empire.

They say they are, but thats not really true.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

i am not an expert on how the uk works exactly, but aren't england, scotland and wales already countries, and the referendum was for scotland to leave the uk? isn't the uk technically a sovereign state or something like that?

but in any case, i did say "many". even if the uk counts (and i generally think they seem to be pretty cool if someone wants to bail), i still feel it's the exception rather than the rule. the guilt of a dead empire.

It's a British tradition at this point, the crown also respected the Referendum on Australian independence in the late 19th century. Not sure if there was an actual referendum in Canada, but they let them go too. The whole empire eventually broke away during the 20th century without great wars of independence, although with varying degrees of friction.

The specific terminology of England, Scotland etc is really ducking confusing. They're not countries in the sense of being an independent state with their own foreign policy and so on. The British do refer to them as separate countries, though.

 

[Volimar]

Every time I see this thread I misread "Angelina Jolie orders seizure of Oil Firm's assets drilling around Falkland Islands."

 

[cirrhosis]

This has got to be a crafty plan for Argentina where the end result would be the loss of the rest of their Navy. Saves them money they could spend elsewhere.

 

[Ostinatto]

They should settle this on a soccer match, winner takes it all.

 

[Osiris]

They should settle this on a soccer match, winner takes it all.

Only if we chop all the Argentinians hands off first! (Well, maybe the goalkeeper can keep his)

 

[Kuros]

It happens something similar with Gibraltar and Spain. These things are very hard to solve on this age.

Gibraltar is slightly different because it's actually a peninsula connected to Spain. The Falklands are Islands 300 miles away from Argentina.

Both want to remain as they are and it should stay that way IMO.

 

[Kuros]

It's a British tradition at this point, the crown also respected the Referendum on Australian independence in the late 19th century. Not sure if there was an actual referendum in Canada, but they let them go too. The whole empire eventually broke away during the 20th century without great wars of independence, although with varying degrees of friction.

The specific terminology of England, Scotland etc is really ducking confusing. They're not countries in the sense of being an independent state with their own foreign policy and so on. The British do refer to them as separate countries, though.

UK is the sovereign state made up of countries. Or if you want to piss off the Welsh 3 countries and a principality.

 

[Tekomandor]

are there many countries to whom "the will of the people" would matter if a part of their country decided not to hang out with them anymore? of course the problem here is that argentina is entirely wrong to consider the falklands to be part of their country.

A few, such as the UK. Plus they're all supposed to care about it. Right to self determination and all that.

 

[Vade]

Nothing helps a first world economy with a quick boom than a war. Time to buy UK stocks

 

[eot]

If they want another war they should hurry up before the F-35 enters service.

 

[DBT85]

No that means Boris gets a photo op in a tank and we get another 5 tory years.

The tories will win again anyway unless Labour return to being something other than tory lite.

If they want another war they should hurry up before the F-35 enters service.

We have typoons out there already. And they work.

 

[cntr]

Honestly, I half want to say at this point that Britain should just evacuate everybody then give the island to Argentina, after using nukes on it to turn it uninhabitable.

Spoiler

don't take this seriously

 

[shadowhunter89]

My wife is from Argentina and I lived there for a couple of years myself. She hates their current president, and the president to be. She is ashamed of her country and other than her family being from there she doesnt want to go back at all because there is no future there. (unless you want to live off of welfare the rest of your life)

 

[eot]

We have typoons out there already. And they work.

Didn't know that, I thought the airstrip was too small.

 

[Abraxas]

Best of luck chaps. We look forward to sinking the one dinghy you haven't had to sell for corn.

 

[Currygan]

It's logical from the perspective she wants to drum up populist sentiment for her during a period of economic instability within the country. A simple bit of political misdirection.

that's what i said, populism has little effect when basically the entirety of Argentina doesn't care/wants the Falklands to remain British

 

[BigDes]

Nothing helps a first world economy with a quick boom than a war. Time to buy UK stocks

I dunno, doesn't seem to helped all that much in the last few years

 

[King_Moc]

Haha, please try to enforce this. Really, please.

 

[DBT85]

Didn't know that, I thought the airstrip was too small.

No. We had Tornados there for about 15 years iirc before they were replaced.

Also larger craft like the c130.

Larger strip is 2.5km long.

 

[Sickboy007]

What is it with Argentines and their plots to make Conservative PMs more popular?

 

[Acorn]

What is it with Argentines and their plots to make Conservative PMs more popular?

It's genius. If I hated us I'd do the same. More misery than losing a island could ever cause.

 

[dead monkey uk]

Didn't know that, I thought the airstrip was too small.

Airstrip was expanded, the UK also has more troops stationed there than before. Unlike the Falkands war we also now have anti-air systems that work on the island now. It would take a large force to invade.