Yes, i've done it tonight - works no issues (at least so far)
So you can put english ROMs into a famicom I see. Does the memory house a whole romset? Can you run translated patched ROMs?
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ArsTechnica: Hackers unlock NES Classic, upload new games via USB cable
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So you can put english ROMs into a famicom I see. Does the memory house a whole romset? Can you run translated patched ROMs?
Yeah, seems pretty simple to me - with the NES classic or Famicon mini you've got a professionally built shell (as opposed to perhaps a shoddy 3d printed mess/ hours of work) that already plays NES games - 30 of them with no extra work required AND it comes with an officially released NES controller. Even this "soft mod" requires under an hour of work and can then load up the device or even replace some of the games found on there. The NES has over 700 games but being honest , I'd be hard pressed to come up with over 60 that I'd actually want to come back to for more than 5 minutes... the 30 that are on there even may as well be 20 instead.
A retropie device is just more work all around , finding emulators , tweaking settings , the much lower legality of the whole affair (at least if you don't hack a nes mini , the 30 titles included are "owned"). Certainly , you can use the retro pie as a pocket emulator of many things (8 / 16 bit , hell even neo geo probably works) but all of them require work that the nes mini does not. Most especially the simple act of putting it into a nice shell.
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shanafan
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Best Buy's website did have stock (briefly) this past week.
Best to follow @Wario64 and @videogamedeals on Twitter, and push notifications of their tweets to your phone's lock screen. It's only way to stay ahead of the game, than saying there's been no restock when there actually is here and there
Best to follow @Wario64 and @videogamedeals on Twitter, and push notifications of their tweets to your phone's lock screen. It's only way to stay ahead of the game, than saying there's been no restock when there actually is here and there
Sorry, I'll let it rest.
I think they have stated that they are planning on putting out more.
Pathfinder
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Morning, everyone.
Any additional info I should add to the OP? I saw there was mention in the thread of a handy program someone created to make adding and removing ROMs easier, but also that it was possibly setting off virus warnings.
Any additional info I should add to the OP? I saw there was mention in the thread of a handy program someone created to make adding and removing ROMs easier, but also that it was possibly setting off virus warnings.
BFIB
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I just tried that method and yeah, instant malware quarantine. I wouldn't recommend it.
They definitely are releasing more, they just sell out almost instantly.
In France we have a wario64-like twitter user who posts about NES Classic Mini restocks multiple times a day, but they usually disappear within 5 minutes of his posting.
BareKnuckle
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So how much extra internal memory does the nes classic have?
I heard it has 1GB, I really doubt much is used by the system and 30 roms...
BigJonsson
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Could they add cheat support? Like Game Genie?
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It appears to have 512MB, of which ~384mb are accessible to the user and can be used for rom storage but it's also used for save state storage (each save is a couple of kb).
I think you could recompile the .nes files with Game Genie cheat codes "baked in" before pushing them to the device, but that's probably it. This hack simply mimics what Nintendo did when they built the image file for the NES Classic. Adding something like cheat support would be a whole different level of hack.
I'm not saying it's impossible, but we would probably need a different kind of hack (true CFW) to make that happen.
shanafan
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GBATemp has been around for years. They wouldn't distribute software that is harmful to your computer.
Your antivirus detects that it's code is used to alter programming, so it blocks it by default. My match editor for WWE2K16 also comes up as a "malicious" program.
These are not malicious programs.
Best Buy's website did have stock (briefly) this past week.
Best to follow @Wario64 and @videogamedeals on Twitter, and push notifications of their tweets to your phone's lock screen. It's only way to stay ahead of the game, than saying there's been no restock when there actually is here and there
Thanks, added them to Twitter and will keep an eye out.
Adam_Roman
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Now you can fix the library to include the best NES game of all time, Little Samson.
Yeah, right. OK, Miyamoto, you're not fooling us.
CrashPrime
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LMFTFY: Mr. Gimmick.
Where did this information come from, and what does that do for general compatibility? Excuse my ignorance on mappers being used in popular games.
Will this allow the heavy hitters like BattleToads, TMNT and DuckTales run?
What are some of the big titles that won't work?
Excellent! Now we can play the game that really matters:
Well done
hydrophilic attack
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I wonder if this means that Nintendo are considering releasing more games for it down the line. That would be excellent
GreenMonkey
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Yeah. It is a couple of things.
One is the file prevalence check. A lot of modern antivirus apps have this - basically it looks to see "Hey. How many people have seen this file?". When you have millions of users it is a fairly good check for your average PC user.
Number two is heuristic behavior. I.E. "what does this code appear to be doing?". Any hacking exploit stuff will look like malware at a glance to AV because it behaves similarly. I.E. (getting more technical) stuff like TFTP attempts, buffer overflows, suspicious looking USB device access. Etc.
(I'm a cybersecurity incident guy these days)
Anyone who can be bothered to hack/mod already has the option of just running an emulator on a raspberry pi without any of the drawbacks
I just had a look into this and they have a SNES version on Google search results....trying to access the site just gives a 403 error
http://www.thepishop.com.au/16gb-snes-retro-gaming-console
Do they just not allow you to access from outside Australia or something?
I tried to patch in Contra for fun, but that program linked awhile back doesn't really work. It asks me to install a driver and the PC just can't or won't find it. It's just as well though. I'd hate to brick my mini just for another means to access a game I can beat in my sleep.
How long did it take until the red LED on the system went off? I think it's been a good ten minutes since it's completed.
For whatever reason, Friday The 13th NES is my family's de facto NES game. Our grandma bought it for us when we were kids not knowing what it was. She probably grabbed any NES game off the shelf at Kmart and handed it to us wrapped in a plastic bag for xmas...
Anyway my dad was confused when Friday The 13th wasn't preloaded into the Classic NES I got him for xmas. Like how could Nintendo the greatest game ever made??
So this hack is a godsend. I really only need to load in one more game.
Anyway my dad was confused when Friday The 13th wasn't preloaded into the Classic NES I got him for xmas. Like how could Nintendo the greatest game ever made??
So this hack is a godsend. I really only need to load in one more game.
Pathfinder
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From what I can tell, it depends on your HDTV. And it's not just input lag, but sound also lags as well. It's not horrible on my Sony, but it's noticeable. Maybe 1/4th of a second lag. (I am probably exaggerating...)
I got used to it after a minute or two.
Input lag is down to your TV not the nes mini
CrashPrime
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Awesome list and thank you.
Glancing at that list, basically every major heavy hitting title is going to be A-OK. EXCEPT what I consider the best NES title, "Gimmick!" aka Mr. Gimmick. Boo. Still impressive that it will handle basically everything else.
Dr Stabbingworth
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Depends on your TV. My TV is fine (tested it with some RBI baseball), but it was unplayable at my parent's house.
My Retro Pie with SNES controllers and 1000 games on it says "Hi". For $70 no less.
The TV set may be the main source of lag, but if you have a low-lag TV set, the Mini has a tiny input lag by itself. Probably because of the way they handle HDMI.
I thought the 8bitdo controller was not that great?
Pathfinder
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Kilau
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I've been using one with the NES mini for a few days now and it works great. The ability to jump back to the menu to make save states is such a welcome feature.
Lag doesn't seem to be an issue either, working my way through punch out just like I remember it.
brightsons
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Has there been any reports of people bricking? Any bugs or issues? Might give this a try this weekend
$70 and the cost of all those carts, right?
Probably not too many people have tried it yet. I couldn't get the program to install some driver it asked for, so I backed out.
BumblebeeCody
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I figured this was going to happen.
Zero bricking reports. It also creates a copy of the stock kernel. You can always re-flash stock if anything happens.
Impotaku
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Apart from the UI between the famicom & nes i'm guessing they are pretty much the same. The Japanese one plays FDS games as it has the disk system version of zelda & metroid on it, not sure if the roms were changed to avoid side swapping or the emulator automatically does it when it detects a disk system game.
Anyone tried that 72-in-1 or other multiple games cartridge?
I assume the cartridge has its own game selection UI when you start it up, so the NES Mini would just consider it a single game cartridge the same as any other. Don't see why it would work any differently to other titles.
1/4 second is immense lag. That is not trivial.
>50ms input lag is generally considered poor for gaming. 250ms input lag sounds dreadful. If sound is also offset, that sounds like a pretty horrible experience.
Or have we accepted bad input lag as a fact of life now?
This is literally the thing you don't have to do that makes retropie so easy. It takes away the part where you have to find and configure a bunch of emulators which was always the annoying part of making an emulation machine.
I am Christina Aguilera
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The good news: "Mr. Gimmick", the European PAL release of the game, has a weird mapper, but I believe that it's more or less compatible with MMC3 and thus should probably work. Timings in the game were not optimized for European NESes, so this will either run at the proper NTSC-designed speed, or will be recognized as a PAL game and will run at the same speed as the cartridge would on a European NES. I guess no one has really mentioned yet how this handles NTSC vs. PAL if all PAL region NES Classic Minis come officially loaded with the 60 FPS North American NTSC versions of the ROMs.
The bad news: the European version of Mr. Gimmick didn't have the extra audio chip, so the music is downgraded to stock NES audio, Castlevania III style. The bass audio samples ARE pitched for European hardware, but there is a patch floating around online for the European version's music to sound right on NTSC hardware.
I've heard that FDS files are compatible with the North American NES Mini. I am curious if the auto disk flipping on the Famicom Mini is baked into the ROMs or baked into the emulator, though.
gingerbeardman
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These Raspberry Pi people are like a plague. Enough already!