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Should have made ScarJo look Asian with CGI
SuperStiltzkin
Member
Damn, I guess they should never make movies with white leads ever again. Clearly not bankable.
If they were going to do the movie the way they did, the simplest thing would've been to just say they weren't in Japan.
Not sure why they tried to go halfway with it.
I'm thinking of applying for a visa to go but am kinda scared to due so given the current political climate.
Because a futuristic Japan is one of the selling points of GitS
Robot Geisha!
ScarJo!
Anime!
It could've been a futuristic America and the movie would've been the same thing.
Never stopped Robocop 3
SuperStiltzkin
Member
Denis Villeneuve would have knocked it out of the park if he wasn't already doing Blade Runner 2. Sicario has so much more in common with Oshii's '95 GitS and Patlabor 2. They both seem to like to use action sparingly, punctuating tense moments with moments of action. Both their films tend to be slow and lingering.
My favorite part these GitS threads is watching people lament that anime adaptations will be abandoned because of uppity Asians.
My favorite part these GitS threads is watching people lament that anime adaptations will be abandoned because of uppity Asians.
talisayNon
Member
Sicario is one of the best movies I've ever seen-- in fact 2015 was disgustingly good for movies.
Those are some great photos. I've got some Pakistani contacts from a job I did out here in china, they always ask me to come out and see their country. They send me photos every so often, seems like an amazing and beautiful place. They said it's safe for white dudes like me as long as I avoid a certain region... I forget tbh it's been awhile. They said the north(east?) maybe is just pristine mountains and lakes and trekking wonderland. I hope I can find time to head out there...
I was just in Singapore and Malaysia again for the past week or so, two awesome places and incredible food. I ate so much goddamn. No time to take photos really as it was a work trip, sorry BSB 😅Now back in cold shanghai.
SuperStiltzkin
Member
I was about to say Sicario might be one of my favorite movies of 2015. Then I googled 2015 movies. Hard decision now.
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Anytime someone says "who cares" and "get over it," I have to check their post history. Too many burner accounts coming out of the woodwork lately with the H3H3 nonsense and all.
Well I can't anymore with the GitS thread. I'm exhausted. I feel like I'm repeating myself. Someone comes in and says something dumb and I feel like I gotta explain to them why whitewashing is bad by first explaining how the universe came to be.
Gully State
Member
macdonald's looking into bringing back Szechuan McNuggets sauce thanks to rick and morty
What would it take to prove that star power doesn't mean shit if the movie sucks?
What would it take to prove that star power doesn't mean shit if the movie sucks?
The star not being white.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
Random question; I know some of you are from outside the US, but have you ever emigrated to live in another country and if so how did you go about finding a place to live and to work?
I'm American. I studied in Australia and worked there after I graduated. I stayed for 2 years. It was straightforward at that time I found an employer and they employed me. Can't remember all the details it was ages ago.
I moved to china nearly 5 years ago now. I applied for jobs, got a visa, moved. You need to have some degrees or skills in order to move to most countries, they don't want just any old riffraff. Some countries are easier than others to get into. Where are you from and where do you wanna go? What do you offer a prospective country or employer that they can't get locally? China is easy to move to if you wanna teach English. Plenty of resources online, though I wouldn't recommend it. Pay is shit unless you are a properly qualified teacher. Lots of other opportunities here in chinathough if you have other skills. Lots of money to be made as well, the window of opportunity in china feels like it's closing though... Vietnam is on the come up.
If you have specific questions I'll try to answer, your post was a little light on details though.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
I'm writing a story and these two characters are fresh off the boat and just arrived in the US, but I'm not sure what to write next.
i'd recently talked to a girl who went to Iran recently, like in january, and she really enjoyed it. nice, beautful people, she said. i was astonished, mainly because the image i get is from sensationalist american media.
I guess I don't know what it would be like to arrive in America as an outsider. Must suck. We aren't the best at welcoming outsiders lol. Especially these days. I could ask some of my Chinese friends that have moved to the USA if you have a few specific questions send them to me. My Chinese friends that have moved there are rich though, so they might have a different experience than your characters or your average immigrant.
SuperStiltzkin
Member
The lesson I took away is that complaining about whitewashing got Trump elected. I'm so sorry everyone.
THR did an interview with 4 Japanese actresses on their thoughts regarding the movie, they all watched it.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...esses-dissect-movie-whitewashing-twist-990956
One of them brought up the reason the studio gave as to why The Ancient was whitewashed and it's what I've been wondering the whole time. They didn't want to create a racially insensitive character so they re-wrote it and cast a white actor (same rationale given for The Mandarin). What baffles me is, why can't you write the character so it's not racially insensitive (pretend you're writing it for a white person if you have to) and then cast an Asian actor? Just give the same not-racially-insensitive lines to an Asian actor.
Edit: There are more interesting points brought up but that one always rubbed me the wrong way.
I know it's all about money but it's not like Tilda Swinton brings asses to the seats. She's an excellent actress and she's great in everything she does but she doesn't generate box office dollars. Neither does Guy Pearce. Where's the risk?
Also, I agree with Kato-Kiriyama about Maggie Q being a great choice for the Major.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...esses-dissect-movie-whitewashing-twist-990956
One of them brought up the reason the studio gave as to why The Ancient was whitewashed and it's what I've been wondering the whole time. They didn't want to create a racially insensitive character so they re-wrote it and cast a white actor (same rationale given for The Mandarin). What baffles me is, why can't you write the character so it's not racially insensitive (pretend you're writing it for a white person if you have to) and then cast an Asian actor? Just give the same not-racially-insensitive lines to an Asian actor.
Edit: There are more interesting points brought up but that one always rubbed me the wrong way.
I know it's all about money but it's not like Tilda Swinton brings asses to the seats. She's an excellent actress and she's great in everything she does but she doesn't generate box office dollars. Neither does Guy Pearce. Where's the risk?
Also, I agree with Kato-Kiriyama about Maggie Q being a great choice for the Major.
Two books I recommend are End of East and The Kite Runner. They are both very different but they do deal with coming to America, the other one, Canada.
NipplesAndToes23
Member
Just like I said earlier I was wondering how you find a place to stay when you're coming to a place you never been to and don't have any family there.
Real estate agent? Internet? Your job can arrange it if it's a proper company. I guess not that interesting, you can make it better for your story.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
the movie's not good but the way some people are defending its bullshit in gaf is making me pretty pissed off tbh
Septimus Prime
Member
That kind of thing is why I can't see GAF as truly progressive, like many posters think they are.
I'm way too tired in general to deal with it. People like to pretend they're progressive, but only when it's convenient for them.
Septimus Prime
Member
I'm loving that most recent post that Clark Kent is clearly drawn to look Asian. Your move, "anime people look white" guys.
A bubble exists in this forum.
SuperStiltzkin
Member
I made the mistake of going in there last night before bed, which is when the crazy shit just started coming in back to back. Like three different people came in to say "get over it." Ended up wasting too much time arguing with people who clearly think whitewashing is a non-existent, made up issue. Mainstream media wanting clicks. Outrage culture. Trump.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
so many gits threads
HALY IS A WARRIOR
love u haly <3
HALY IS A WARRIOR
love u haly <3
AnathemicOne
Banned
Anime is a mistake, it's nothing but trash.
But really, as a fan of anime I'd be perfectly fine if these fail adaptations stopped being made. Atleast until Hollywood can fucking mature a bit to be more progressive.
But really, as a fan of anime I'd be perfectly fine if these fail adaptations stopped being made. Atleast until Hollywood can fucking mature a bit to be more progressive.
BLOODED_hands
Member
Lol. I was dying when plenty of GAFfers brought up American comics/cartoons. Bruce Wang, lol. Clark Khang. Those two names sound cool.
AnathemicOne
Banned
Dem Asian Americans getting all prissy again.
BLOODED_hands
Member
These Asian Americans need to just get over it. Gosh.
Japanese people even don't care, like sheesh
"These people didn't mention about these problems before. Why are they issues now?"
SixMachine
Member
You know it's actually a damn shame about that thread with the one article. There's a decent amount you can take away from it, but the OP tried to take one quote and make it seems like Japanese people want to suck on some white D. Not only that but it's throwing more fuel on the fire on the shittiest part of the discussion and makes it run around in circles over one line.
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
i have to refrain from participating in that thread
i am afraid my posts would be used as a shield for unfortunate points of view
bleh
but the article is actually interesting and full with hard truths and nuances
full disclaimer:
i am afraid my posts would be used as a shield for unfortunate points of view
bleh
but the article is actually interesting and full with hard truths and nuances
full disclaimer:
i was one of the problematic asians who initially didn't have a problem with scarjo as major since i am first generation immigrant and still consume considerable asian movies contents (in my mind, gits being picked up by hollywood was a good thing since it was a kind of acknowledgement of asian original titles) (as for the casting choice, i was thinking it made sense since if i wanted to see asian actors, i just had to watch asian media. and hollywood gits would naturally have 'hollywood' casting).(this was shortsighted and tonedeaf from me)
i did not understand asian americans' perspectives. i was not able to empathize with the struggle of being 'erased' or 'trivialized' in mainstream contents produced in the very country you call your own.
i have been schooled since. i think it was cybit and septimus prime that helped me understand the issues. so thank you, both, and thank you asianGAF. anyway, so. im refraining from commenting in that thread. MESS.
i did not understand asian americans' perspectives. i was not able to empathize with the struggle of being 'erased' or 'trivialized' in mainstream contents produced in the very country you call your own.
i have been schooled since. i think it was cybit and septimus prime that helped me understand the issues. so thank you, both, and thank you asianGAF. anyway, so. im refraining from commenting in that thread. MESS.
Like, to be fair tho, what people are discussing in that thread isn't from the truth. But it's a shame it overshadows the purpose of the quote in the first place. As in, how stuff affects Japanese people and their views are not as important as Asian Americans. The article mostly attempts to highlight why attitudes are different.
Septimus Prime
Member
Over the weekend, as we walked by a movie theater:
"What's Ghost in the Shell?"
"That's the racist one."
"Oh, the one with Scarlett Johansson?"
So at least it's not just on GAF that people understand that this is horseshit.
"What's Ghost in the Shell?"
"That's the racist one."
"Oh, the one with Scarlett Johansson?"
So at least it's not just on GAF that people understand that this is horseshit.
For many things, GAF is not representative of your average people.
BLOODED_hands
Member
There is a discussion to be had but, with how some GAFfers are, there won't be any discussion. I gotta give it to the ones who are trying to have the discussion 👏
I'll comment from time to time but my comments aren't much for discussion. Mostly being a snarky asshole and I accept that (and because I don't want to get banned).
Lol. That's good. That's damn good.gif