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Assassin's Creed Brotherhood |OT| where my bro's at?
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Yeah I skipped a few of the dev diaries that said they contained spoilers or whatever. I probably shouldn't have watched that launch trailer, but it's too late now. :lolDrBo42 said:
I'm not sure what unfortunate spoiler you're referring to, though, so phew. ADD causing me to not pay enough attention wins again.
faceless007
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I absolutely love AC2 but: Yes it is. The structure of the main missions isn't anything but a completely straight line from A to B. It doesn't repeat because it's an entirely linear chronology of memories, and you have to finish all of them to complete the main game. You don't get to the next assassination until you've done all its interim missions. As flawed as AC1 was, at least it did give you (very limited) choices as to which mission type you would rather do and in what order.ZealousD said:
Ether_Snake
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What they need to work on FOR REAL in future AC games is the whole "being an assassin" thing. I like how things are now, but you should be able to, maybe in certain missions, play as an actual assassin instead of as a tank. I want to climb up a building, eliminate some guards, OPEN A WINDOW, sneak inside the hallway, make my way to his room, stab the sleeping noble, set the place on fire, bust through the window, land on my horse, and run off to my hide out.
Basically, I want to do stuff like in the AC1 and AC2 CG trailers! I want to sneak, kill, run.
With the BAM system it could make for some great assassinations were multiple targets must be killed at once. I hope they evolve this system in the future.
Basically, I want to do stuff like in the AC1 and AC2 CG trailers! I want to sneak, kill, run.
With the BAM system it could make for some great assassinations were multiple targets must be killed at once. I hope they evolve this system in the future.
Not at all. In AC1, everything is about building up to a particular assassination. You do a set of small investigations that lead up to a climactic kill. That's structure. Even if you think it's "repetitive," its structured nevertheless.ZealousD said:
Not at all. It's just a series of meandering dots that you connect. First, you go to A. Then to B. Then to C. Then to D. No climax. No rising and falling action. No structure. No complexity.
indigo-cyclops
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People were giving me a hard time in a Stream of AC2 recently about wanting to be able to actually crouch/sneak at the same time. This goes along with what Ether_Snake was saying. I really love where AC2 took the series, but there are so many failed attempts at playing a real assassin that it's disheartening at times. I'm thinking that Thief: Deadly Shadows really did this type of shit well; I fucking miss it and don't see why the AC series is avoiding the nuances of being a killer working in the shadows!
By the way, after firing up AC1 for the first time in a long time this week I realized just how much I love the setting. Man, I'd kill for another game in that setting with the updates from AC2/ACB and beyond.
By the way, after firing up AC1 for the first time in a long time this week I realized just how much I love the setting. Man, I'd kill for another game in that setting with the updates from AC2/ACB and beyond.
Net_Wrecker
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INDIGO_CYCLOPS said:
I agree. They focus too much on crowd blending public style assassinations, and not NEARLY enough on actual classic stealth. I don't get why there is no crouch walking, no cover-to-cover transitions, no light/dark mechanics, etc. etc. AC4 should provide us with the means of being the type of assassin WE want to be instead of this rigid, "hit, make a mess, and run" assassin we've been for 3 games.
LightofRohan
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Yea I wish there was more of a reason to run.Ether_Snake said:
IT's ridiculous when you see a cutscene with Ezio talking to someone else about how it's impossible to infiltrate the fortress because of the overwhelming amount of guards. When in reality you could kill all of them with a broom... (true story I did that).
The Praiseworthy
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That Launch Trailer was epic as... EPICNESS 
Blue Ninja
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Cancelled my Limited Codex edition pre-order: thing's too expensive (90, or an amazing 130 dollars) to justify a map and a few cards. That 'Codex' booklet looks nice, but I remember the one in AC2's Black Edition being filled with grammatical and spelling errors. I wasn't too impressed with Lineage, either, and I can do without one extra map. I've pre-ordered that Auditore edition now, and with a 15 gift certificate it'll be relatively cheap. I'll still be paying way more than those of you in the US, but I've grown used to that by now.
OneMoreQuestion
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As much as I'm looking forward to the game, I think I'll wait for a 'complete edition' that comes with all the DLC... I'm not going to buy into the 'missing chapters' scandal again.
Blue Ninja
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Were the expanded chapters for AC2 worth buying? I was planning on doing so, but then Mass Effect 2 rolled around and I never looked back.OneMoreQuestion said:
OneMoreQuestion
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Blue Ninja said:
No idea :lol Still waiting for my complete edition to arrive, it's a beauty.
DualShadow
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Blue Ninja said:
From memory the first DLC was a bit average but the second one was pretty good imo.
Hopefully someone can confirm this cause it's been a while
92% in UK PSM3 mag
"it improves on every aspect of the Assassin's Creed formula"
"broadening of the series".
(Rome) "It's a glorious, rich city with a staggering amount of side-missions, secrets and hidden stuff to sniff out".
(multiplayer) "an inventive and entertaining addition"
(Verdict) "designed to treat fans" "entice newcomers"
"it improves on every aspect of the Assassin's Creed formula"
"broadening of the series".
(Rome) "It's a glorious, rich city with a staggering amount of side-missions, secrets and hidden stuff to sniff out".
(multiplayer) "an inventive and entertaining addition"
(Verdict) "designed to treat fans" "entice newcomers"
Net_Wrecker said:
The problem is you guys seeing the series as almost pure stealth games. When you play AC2 it's pretty clear this IP is some "action game with stealth elements". You should revise your expectations and you might enjoy it all the more. AC2 is great at what it does and ACB looks to be fantastic! But they are no real stealth games.
GringoLOCOo
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is anyone playing AC2 before next week ?
I just started yesterday going to try and 100 percent it before Brotherhood come's out next week.
I just started yesterday going to try and 100 percent it before Brotherhood come's out next week.
I got to play the first ~2 hours of this game at an event over here. While it's graphically/aesthetically very similar to the second game, this one begins much stronger, and some of the stuff that occurs during the beginning parts are really cool. Also, one platforming section (major spoilers)
is really fun, although they really, really looked at Uncharted 2 (you guys'll see what I mean ). The new lighting effects are swell as well.
Unfortunately, I didn't manage to win a Codex Edition of this game (one guy did), but everyone still got goodie bags that included various swag (even free games!). There was also a piece of paper in the bag with a Brotherhood-related code, but it doesn't say what it is for...
where you play as Desmond and run around new catacombs under the villa
). The new lighting effects are swell as well.Unfortunately, I didn't manage to win a Codex Edition of this game (one guy did), but everyone still got goodie bags that included various swag (even free games!). There was also a piece of paper in the bag with a Brotherhood-related code, but it doesn't say what it is for...
Well, Nolan North does do a voice...BeeDog said:although they really, really looked at Uncharted 2 (you guys'll see what I mean
I have a dilemma. This or Black Ops for Christmas. I'm not sure, I love Assassin's Creed for the whole stealthy kills thing, but I love CoD for epic set pieces. ARGH, WHICH TO GET?!
Net_Wrecker
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Ranger X said:
No, no, don't get me wrong, I LOVE this franchise, but in the future I believe if they added those features I listed, and made the game more open ended when it comes to your assassination approach, it would be better for it. There's nothing particularly "wrong" about how the game is now, but if they added some more real stealth abilities that allowed us to make the hit, and leave with absolutely no panic or attracting attention until after the fact, it would be even better.
I know it's not a pure stealth game, but there's no reason they can't expand on the stealth aspects in the same way they've been expanding on the free running, and combat.
I've never had such mixed feelings about a series
The entire over-arching storyline is one of the most embarassingly awful bits of writing I've had the displeasure of experiencing in any medium. But the game itself is great, and was so improved in AC2 over AC1, I'm curious about AC:B.
Also, they fucked up the marketing on this game hard, until a week ago, I thought this was a multiplayer only mini expansion.
The entire over-arching storyline is one of the most embarassingly awful bits of writing I've had the displeasure of experiencing in any medium. But the game itself is great, and was so improved in AC2 over AC1, I'm curious about AC:B.
Also, they fucked up the marketing on this game hard, until a week ago, I thought this was a multiplayer only mini expansion.
conman said:
I'm not saying that it's not structure. But it's a repetitive structure. There are no surprises there.
Yes, it is a mostly linear path. But it's not meandering.
Now that's a load of bullshit. Just because something is linear doesn't mean that it doesn't have rising and falling action, structure, or complexity. Every mission you take leads you to the ultimate goal of assassinating a target.
Regarding eden puzzles, I really hope they change them up a bit (each piece unlocking just a few frames of video = incredibly unsatisfying), or at least rework the difficulty on later puzzles. They just got stupid hard towards the end in AC2, for increasingly little payoff.Blimblim said:Yes they are still here
Yeah, it was weird. All the early press made this sound like it would be a multiplayer only release. Then a few months ago, they started up with the single-player hype. I'm sure you're not alone in being confused.Victrix said:
It was a really unbalanced marketing tactic. They kept all the singleplayer info close to their chest (and have only just started releasing info about it), but started pushing the multiplayer stuff very early. I understand why they would do it that way, but I'm not sure that it made for a very clear message about what the final game will be.
The only two parts of AC2 that had any real structure (and where you knew what you were doing and why you were doing it) were the very beginning and the very end. Everything else in-between was just a blind series of "go here because I said so" missions. No sense of who or what you were chasing, or why you were doing anything you were being asked to do. Meandering.ZealousD said:
conman said:
Then you weren't paying attention.
In the first part of the game, you're hunting down the people responsible for the Pazzi Conspiracy and later you're trying to take out the Doge of Venice. Both the Pazzis and the Doge were part of the conspiracy that killed Ezio's family, a conspiracy that you find out to be orchestrated by Rodrigo Borgia.