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Astronomers just deleted an asteroid because it turned out to be Elon Musk’s Tesla Roadster

LectureMaster

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On Jan. 2, the Minor Planet Center at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Massachusetts, announced the discovery of an unusual asteroid, designated 2018 CN41. First identified and submitted by citizen scientist H. A. Güler, the object’s orbit was notable: It came less than 150,000 miles (240,000 km) from Earth, closer than the orbit of the Moon. That qualified it as a near-Earth object (NEO) — one worth monitoring for its potential to someday slam into Earth.

But less than 17 hours later, the Minor Planet Center (MPC) issued an editorial notice: It was deleting 2018 CN41 from its records because, it turned out, the object was not an asteroid.

It was a car.

To be precise, it was Elon Musk’s Tesla Roadster mounted to a Falcon Heavy upper stage, which boosted into orbit around the Sun on Feb. 6, 2018. The car — which had been owned and driven by Musk — was a test payload for the Falcon Heavy’s first flight. At the time, it received a great deal of notoriety as the first production car to be flung into space, complete with a suited-up mannequin in the driver’s seat named Starman.

The case of mistaken identity was resolved swiftly in a collaboration between professional and amateur astronomers. But some astronomers say it is also emblematic of a growing issue: the lack of transparency from nations and companies operating craft in deep space, beyond the orbits used by most satellites. While objects in lower Earth orbits are tracked by the U.S. Space Force, deeper space remains an unregulated frontier.

If left unchecked, astronomers say the growing number of untracked objects could hinder efforts to protect Earth from potentially hazardous asteroids. They could lead to wasted observing effort and — if sufficiently numerous — even throw off statistical analyses of the threat posted by near-Earth asteroids, said Center for Astrophysics (CfA) astrophysicist Jonathan McDowell in an email to Astronomy. “Worst case, you spend a billion launching a space probe to study an asteroid and only realize it’s not an asteroid when you get there,” he said.

And it is a problem that is set to worsen as more nations and companies venture to the Moon and beyond.

 



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On Jan. 2, the Minor Planet Center at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Massachusetts, announced the discovery of an unusual asteroid, designated 2018 CN41. First identified and submitted by citizen scientist H. A. Güler, the object’s orbit was notable: It came less than 150,000 miles (240,000 km) from Earth, closer than the orbit of the Moon. That qualified it as a near-Earth object (NEO) — one worth monitoring for its potential to someday slam into Earth.

But less than 17 hours later, the Minor Planet Center (MPC) issued an editorial notice: It was deleting 2018 CN41 from its records because, it turned out, the object was not an asteroid.

It was a car.

To be precise, it was Elon Musk’s Tesla Roadster mounted to a Falcon Heavy upper stage, which boosted into orbit around the Sun on Feb. 6, 2018. The car — which had been owned and driven by Musk — was a test payload for the Falcon Heavy’s first flight. At the time, it received a great deal of notoriety as the first production car to be flung into space, complete with a suited-up mannequin in the driver’s seat named Starman.

The case of mistaken identity was resolved swiftly in a collaboration between professional and amateur astronomers. But some astronomers say it is also emblematic of a growing issue: the lack of transparency from nations and companies operating craft in deep space, beyond the orbits used by most satellites. While objects in lower Earth orbits are tracked by the U.S. Space Force, deeper space remains an unregulated frontier.

If left unchecked, astronomers say the growing number of untracked objects could hinder efforts to protect Earth from potentially hazardous asteroids. They could lead to wasted observing effort and — if sufficiently numerous — even throw off statistical analyses of the threat posted by near-Earth asteroids, said Center for Astrophysics (CfA) astrophysicist Jonathan McDowell in an email to Astronomy. “Worst case, you spend a billion launching a space probe to study an asteroid and only realize it’s not an asteroid when you get there,” he said.

And it is a problem that is set to worsen as more nations and companies venture to the Moon and beyond.


Classic pompous hubris...we fucked up but we'll just throw some dirt instead of admitting it.


There is live data on that roadster already.
 

Jinzo Prime

Member
What "transparency" do they want? It was a highly publicized launch, it's not like it was hard to track. And when they found it they just deleted it again, in another year someone else will "find" it and we will get this article all over again.

It's just MDS: Musk Derangement Syndrome. Very similar to its progenitor disease: TDS.
 

Pegasus Actual

Gold Member
What "transparency" do they want? It was a highly publicized launch, it's not like it was hard to track. And when they found it they just deleted it again, in another year someone else will "find" it and we will get this article all over again.
https://www.whereisroadster.com/ well this site has it on the opposite side of the solar system whereas in reality it passed right by earth just a couple of weeks ago... so maybe it's not that easy to track.
 

Pegasus Actual

Gold Member
I'm assuming the date of discovery wasn't the date of the data collection. Elon would be VERY interested to know that the calculated orbit of his car was so divergent.
Hmm, yeah after looking at the article again I see the thing they designated was named starting with "2018." Which was when the car was launched... so they detected it right after launch? And got around to designating it over 6 years later? In which case the whole thing is really silly.

I was trying to get at the fact that nobody is actively tracking it. I'm pretty sure telemetry was very short-lived. I don't think there was much more to the mission beyond generating enough thrust to create a transfer orbit that goes far out enough to hit mars and pointing that thrust in roughly the right direction.

According to the other site linked it already had a 'close approach' to Mars... so depending on how close that approach was and how much error was in the initial calculated trajectory those tracking websites could already be way off anyway. And also when you click the first close approach to Earth the animation shows it nowhere near Earth (whereas it does work for the first Mars approach).
 
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