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Atelier Community Thread: Successfully synthesized a Barrel!
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Aarglefarg
Member
I recommend Rorona Plus and the Arland trilogy as it's more solid overall. If Shallie was better then the trilogies would be closer together.
I was talking about Ayesha, not Escha. Also, would it be hard to go from Rorona+ to Totori/Meruru+? I'm aware that Rorona+ is the only one to actually be remade.you can listen to me
go buy Rorona, Totori and Meruru, all from Arland. Escha is fine but if you're gonna play that you may as well pick up the other two. only if you have time though. you're still potentially playing 6 long ass games
Aarglefarg
Member
It wouldn't be hard as Rorona+ was made to be more like the other Arland games than Original Rorona was.
I know you said Ayesha. jeezus. but Escha's the only great game from Dusk, Ayesha is bad and Shallie is okay. that's what I'm saying.
people are dumb. it's damn easy to go from Rorona Plus to Totori Plus.
I'm still torn. What exactly are the main gameplay differences between Rorona+ and Ayesha, and why is it that Ayesha is seemingly not well liked here? I'm only going to have time to play one for now.
Basileus777
Member
Ayesha is by far the best Dusk game.
Basileus777
Member
They ruined the structure of the games after Ayesha. Escha in particular was ruined by a structure that added a ton of filler time you had to burn through before you could get back to playing the game for real again.
Pretty much, some dislike them all, some prefer the ones after Ayesha, some prefer Ayesha, some like all of them, etc.
It is pretty divisive series of games.
I loved all of them though I do miss the portraits when characters are talking but still loved them.
Aarglefarg
Member
In terms of gameplay and everything else, I think Ayesha is good, it's just very similar to Totori and so if I recommend a trilogy then it comes down to the other games.
In Rorona and Rorona Plus, there isn't much of an adventure across large distances, as you've got the main town and then some surrounding areas that are groups of areas. It spans over three years in-game time, as a series of 12 challenges of 3 months each.
In Totori, Meruru and Ayesha, you can trek far from home and it can take a month of in-game time to travel across the map. Although they are forgiving for wasting time, they are also less guided.
Escha & Logy returns to be a bit more guided again, as is Shallie which lacks the same type of time limits.
If I would rank the games, they would be something like the following. I bolded the Arland games and italicised the Dusk games:
Meruru
Rorona Plus
Escha & Logy
Ayesha
Totori
Shallie
But of course a lot of people would rank them differently.
if by the best you mean worst, then still yeah, it is the worst Atelier game of all times
Basileus777
Member
It's kind of a shame newcomers come in here and get mislead by terrible opinions like this.
you do realize that it's very wide spread opinion
just checking
I sometimes think you are just having fun at newbies expense. Are you?
Basileus777
Member
Posts like this make it hard to tell if you're the one trolling.
Eudaemonium
Member
I think the issue with ranking the Dusk games is that, well, they're actually very different. For example, Escha&Logy was far more structured, based around a loose mission system, whereas Ayesha was more fluid. Ayesha has a greater sense of adventure and exploration, whereas E&L benefits from being focused entirely around a single town. I like the combat systems in both, to be honest, but they're quite different in their style and execution.
I never actually finished Shallie on PS3, so I can't say much about it. I just picked up Shallie Plus, so I'll play through that and judge it.
I never actually finished Shallie on PS3, so I can't say much about it. I just picked up Shallie Plus, so I'll play through that and judge it.
Freaking Limit
Member
In Escha and Logy only alchemists can use items if I remember correctly. Also, you don't equip most items to use them. Place them in your bag so you can use them when you go into battle. Pretty much everything you synthesize will be a used this way.
wow thanks. It was right there in front of me the entire time lol
Spirit Icana
Member
Atelier Firis is out in Japan and it's not selling too hot:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1310853
Don't think Azure will impress either. They're gonna have to score with their new IP, Blue Reflection, as I think people are fatigued with Atelier right now, despite how much more open and bigger the world is in the latest game.
Also of note to me...
composer Hayato Asano DID NOT work on Atelier Firis!!!! I imported the OST and I feel scammed! lol (the other composers aren't bad, but this guy is a stand out and just consistantly nails it for me)
I hope he's doing the whole OST for Blue Reflection to make up for this. The trailer song does sound like his style.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7-2SydFrw
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1310853
Don't think Azure will impress either. They're gonna have to score with their new IP, Blue Reflection, as I think people are fatigued with Atelier right now, despite how much more open and bigger the world is in the latest game.
Also of note to me...
composer Hayato Asano DID NOT work on Atelier Firis!!!! I imported the OST and I feel scammed! lol (the other composers aren't bad, but this guy is a stand out and just consistantly nails it for me)
I hope he's doing the whole OST for Blue Reflection to make up for this.
The trailer song does sound like his style.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7-2SydFrw