I can honestly say I'm pretty apathetic over this sort of thing... I mean, you joined the military, what'd you expect? Civilains on the other hand are another story. I'd rather 1,000 soldiers die, than one innocent civilian and last I check their have been something like a 100,000 civilians killed since the war began (mostly from air strikes). If I were a soldier and I got blowed up, I'd rather everyone cry over the innocents than myself.
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Attack on dining hall at U.S. base near Mosul, Iraq, kills 22, including U.S troops
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That's just the thing; back then it meant little, but over time, the boundaries became all the people had known in their lives, and they were fighting a similar but different group of countrymen over a set of arbitrary lines. Africa's rife with this.
But to change it? Nigh impossible. They're too sacrosanct, and the logistics of it are insane and you've already gotten down. No magic wands here on Earth to wave and make it happen, no siree...
Drozmight said:
I vote Libertarian, yet the ideals on the Iraqi war from them are pie-in-the-sky as well.
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Why would we? I'm glad you self corrected by the end of your statment.
I can't really see anyone re-inking all of Africa either, but there a few problematic spots here and there where it might happen. Out of neccesity. I wonder why when everything was being divided up in the first place, nobody took into account ethnicity. Lenin, I believe, was really the first person to propose borders based on ethnic groups. Pretty damn good idea. I don't see why somebody couldn't pick up on it years later.
some points.
It reprehensible to attack civilians in a warzone or not, however military are fair game, so Wasabi i understand u've got friends over there, but unfortunately the nature of their job means they are reasonable targets no matter what they are doing just as the resistance fighters, jihadis, terrorists and whoever else is in there is. And invading a country makes them a target (the merits of said invasion aside) I'm pretty sure the US military don't ring up their prospective targets and tell them their on the way.
The US is no different to any other place really, the poor are sent to do the bidding of the rich, it has always been this way. My dad was in WWII and he is firmly of the opinion if the people making the decisions actually had to do the fighting or go into the war zone there'd be a lot less war happening. So Bush and his oil baron cronies can say whatever they like but u can bet your arse they'd be far more circumspect if it was their families or themselves being sent into the firing line.
U can bet the many of the guys that are killed join because the forces offer them pay and job security that may otherwise not available to them.
Poor barstards, i feel for them and more for their families.
I however am not at all sorry that the US has suffered like this, your govt has put their citizens in this position on grounds that could be described as fanciful at best or blatantly immoral at worst. And the politicians will come out and say this is a tragedy, well it is for the people that were killed and their families but it is a consequence of war and a poorly conceived one at that. and the real tragedy is that the same politicians sent them there in the first place.
Guys i'm using poor barstards as an Australian. Many aussies will come across the most appalling horror and the first words they will utter out of genuine pity is "poor barstards".
It reprehensible to attack civilians in a warzone or not, however military are fair game, so Wasabi i understand u've got friends over there, but unfortunately the nature of their job means they are reasonable targets no matter what they are doing just as the resistance fighters, jihadis, terrorists and whoever else is in there is. And invading a country makes them a target (the merits of said invasion aside) I'm pretty sure the US military don't ring up their prospective targets and tell them their on the way.
The US is no different to any other place really, the poor are sent to do the bidding of the rich, it has always been this way. My dad was in WWII and he is firmly of the opinion if the people making the decisions actually had to do the fighting or go into the war zone there'd be a lot less war happening. So Bush and his oil baron cronies can say whatever they like but u can bet your arse they'd be far more circumspect if it was their families or themselves being sent into the firing line.
U can bet the many of the guys that are killed join because the forces offer them pay and job security that may otherwise not available to them.
Poor barstards, i feel for them and more for their families.
I however am not at all sorry that the US has suffered like this, your govt has put their citizens in this position on grounds that could be described as fanciful at best or blatantly immoral at worst. And the politicians will come out and say this is a tragedy, well it is for the people that were killed and their families but it is a consequence of war and a poorly conceived one at that. and the real tragedy is that the same politicians sent them there in the first place.
Guys i'm using poor barstards as an Australian. Many aussies will come across the most appalling horror and the first words they will utter out of genuine pity is "poor barstards".
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apparently it was a suicide bomber and not a rocket attack!
and what's up with all these support the troops car magnets all of a sudden?
ever since around september they have just been mushrooming...
i saw some for sale once... they said MADE IN TAIWAN
and what's up with all these support the troops car magnets all of a sudden?
ever since around september they have just been mushrooming...
i saw some for sale once... they said MADE IN TAIWAN
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MIMIC said:
tee hee it sounded like a good place to post this pic
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