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AusGAF IV - A No Hope, Government - Double the price, region locked and now adults

Fusebox

Banned
Fogz said:
Must have been very different to the rural areas where I've been living all my life

Lol, same.


In fact when we lived in Albury we didn't even bother locking our doors, you think anyone would try that in Sydney?

He's a nutter.
 
Salazar said:
Peter Roebuck found dead. Cripes.
wtf? My money is on assassination.


Lafiel said:
To be honest, from personal experience in the rural areas of australia, the stereotype that australians = thieves is kinda true in a sense. Not so sure about the cities tho.
Really? Complete opposite from my experience. Rarely heard of any thievery up home, especially since no one locked their houses, transportation, livestock up often. Everyone I know in the cities have had at LEAST one thing stolen from them.

Omi said:
Just a quick mention of the insane concurrent player count on steam for skyrim. 10% of the total sales my arse.
If you aren't playing it on PC you really would be doing yourself a disservice.

Doncamatic said:
All Ghillied Up's still fantastic too. Nothing in the way of challenging gameplay but it evokes the atmosphere of being a sniper so well. The next level after the shot is taken could have been great too if it wasn't for that standoff at the ferris-wheel.
Ferris wheel was actually fine this time. The inital fire fight after leaving the hotel though was fucked. Horrible level design and horrible spawn rate means the best option is flee to the buses and use them as a focus point before Forrest Gumping it to the nearby open building.

The al-Asad takedown mission is another irritating one. If the Russians shot like they do in COD4 we would all be speaking Russian by now, allied AI is hopeless a lot of the time too, they walk straight past the enemy a lot of the time unless they are out in the open.

Assault on the launch facility though is really well done and I am enjoying it a lot. Reverted back to carrying the M4 and a sniper though which is very effective but not a lot of creative fun.

Two things that really draw the fun out of the game though:
Dogs - these fuckers are just irritating. Glad they got rid of them in the following instalments. Either you waste a few bullets tracking them or they come out of nowhere and you have a millisecond to melee them before you are dead. Just not fun.
Grenades - they just keep coming. The warning zone is much smaller than the newer games as well as the damage even on normal is immense. Some spots the enemies just keep throwing over and over too. Again they were toned down in MW2+3 which is great.
 

Kerrby

Banned
Danoss said:
So, you're a thief then?

This comment is bad and you should feel bad.

I laughed at the stealing comment on ecogamer. 1. I would never steal and 2. It sounds like he's taking the piss.
 
COD4. Lack of checkpointing during underground run near the end of the game is horrible. Lots of tunnels where the ally AI will run past everything and let you get killed by enemies flanking you. Horrible system that relies on trial and error, hoping that you are lucky enough to get enemies to pop out at the right time so you don't get killed mid-reload or an ally will finally help you out.

Jintor said:
This equity law take-home exam is a hoot

and by a hoot I mean extraordinarily complex
Hate exams like that. They always make them 10x more complex since you have the benefit of knowing what you need to study going in. We never got 100% of the exam though, usually you would get 80% of the case study but also have no idea what questions they would ask. They would always ask complex questions.
 
reptilescorpio said:
COD4. Lack of checkpointing during underground run near the end of the game is horrible.
Having finished MW3 yesterday (on 360, veteran) I can safely say that the checkpoints in that game are just as unevenly spaced out. There's one near the end where
you blow a hole in the floor and take out the guys holding the president hostage
that I had to do multiple times simply because there's a long firefight afterwards. So frustrating.

Oops... DP. Soo... are there any mods out for Skyrim yet?
 

Dead Man

Member
codswallop said:
Having finished MW3 yesterday (on 360, veteran) I can safely say that the checkpoints in that game are just as unevenly spaced out. There's one near the end where
you blow a hole in the floor and take out the guys holding the president hostage
that I had to do multiple times simply because there's a long firefight afterwards. So frustrating.

Oops... DP. Soo... are there any mods out for Skyrim yet?
http://www.skyrimnexus.com/
 
codswallop said:
Having finished MW3 yesterday (on 360, veteran) I can safely say that the checkpoints in that game are just as unevenly spaced out. There's one near the end where
you blow a hole in the floor and take out the guys holding the president hostage
that I had to do multiple times simply because there's a long firefight afterwards. So frustrating.
That last fire fight was so god damn full on. Probably the only section in MW3 that I thought was too full on. I got through it fine on Normal though so you should expect it to be a bit frustrating on Veteran but they really do need to put checkpoints after story based moments like that. Poor Delta. :(
 

Deeku

Member
Salazar said:
I can't imagine how gutted the ABC blokes are.

I've had so much pleasure listening to Skull, Jim, Aggers, Harsha, Roebuck.
Yeah.

Every time I turn grandstand on, I'm usually expecting to hear either Roebuck or Jim.
 

Yagharek

Member
reptilescorpio said:
I wouldn't say ONLY Australians. It is pretty much piracy but you screw over another gamer as well.

In cases of piracy, its a digital download and the only loss is potential revenue to the publisher and retailer. It's not theft, and it's not "100% guaranteed loss of income" because we don't know if the pirate would have bought the game and no physical product is taken.

In the case where some dude walks into a shop and steals a CD key - that is categorically theft. The store either has one less product to sell once the key is used, or a customer unwittingly buys a product that cannot be used. And inevitably can't return the game to the retailer. So anyone who does that is a thieving piece of shit.

Also, anyone seen the xbox live prepaid cards with two levels of perforated tears and a peel sticker covering the code? CD keys for PC games need something like that to allow for returns or prevent cd key theft.
 

Jintor

Member
RandomVince said:
In cases of piracy, its a digital download and the only loss is potential revenue to the publisher and retailer. It's not theft, and it's not "100% guaranteed loss of income" because we don't know if the pirate would have bought the game and no physical product is taken.

In the case where some dude walks into a shop and steals a CD key - that is categorically theft. The store either has one less product to sell once the key is used, or a customer unwittingly buys a product that cannot be used. And inevitably can't return the game to the retailer. So anyone who does that is a thieving piece of shit.

Also, anyone seen the xbox live prepaid cards with two levels of perforated tears and a peel sticker covering the code? CD keys for PC games need something like that to allow for returns or prevent cd key theft.

I'm glad to finally agree with you on something, Vince :)
 
RandomVince said:
In the case where some dude walks into a shop and steals a CD key - that is categorically theft. The store either has one less product to sell once the key is used, or a customer unwittingly buys a product that cannot be used. And inevitably can't return the game to the retailer. So anyone who does that is a thieving piece of shit.
That is exactly what I meant. Not only are they not paying the publisher but they are also causing grief to another consumer who is unlucky enough to buy the game, get home, and find out they cannot play it without running through a process to get their cd key back from the person who stole it from JB.

Omi said:
No web source? I don't own a 'modern' console :p
I assume if COD Elite was working on PC you could look up the figures on your web browser. At least I hope they added that kind of functionality.
Could try tweeting and asking Major Nelson?
 
well im sad i was sleeping and missed out on first post of the page.
also coming up on 20k. who predicted it. good work.
might i suggest that we dont migrate till this one gets locked. pretty sure i can necrobump 3.0 still.
 
BananaArnie said:
well im sad i was sleeping and missed out on first post of the page.
also coming up on 20k. who predicted it. good work.
might i suggest that we dont migrate till this one gets locked. pretty sure i can necrobump 3.0 still.
Did you see the snow white and the huntsman trailer? I found it pretty meh.
 

Kerrby

Banned
This ones for Choc/Jintor.

ABC is beating Channel 10 in the ratings again, pushing them into 4th spot as ABC takes 3rd spot.

Channel 7 has won every single week of the ratings for the year, that's crazy.

Hopefully Channel 10 gets a shake up and puts something decent on it's station.
 

Jintor

Member
Australian television is balls.

If anybody knows how to deal with a trust where the assignee died before being able to register a transfer of legal interest to the trustee that would be grand
 

Yagharek

Member
Kerrby said:
This ones for Choc/Jintor.

ABC is beating Channel 10 in the ratings again, pushing them into 4th spot as ABC takes 3rd spot.

Channel 7 has won every single week of the ratings for the year, that's crazy.

Hopefully Channel 10 gets a shake up and puts something decent on it's station.

Why "hopefully"?

I'd love to see them go belly up along with 9 and 7.
 

Yagharek

Member
legend166 said:
So I think some dodgy stuff is going to come out about the Roebuck situation, sadly.

Same here. Speculation wise, do you think it has more to do with which of the following themes:

a) Drunken violence/one off incident
b) Match fixing
c) Personal problems

My bet is on b, and not as him being a suspect, rather someone who unfortunately may have known too much.
 

Kerrby

Banned
RandomVince said:
Why "hopefully"?

I'd love to see them go belly up along with 9 and 7.

Well "hopefully" because I'd rather them do something than nothing and get some good TV on there. That should be fairly obvious.

No at your last comment, won't happen (9 and 7).

midonnay said:
Tiger woods making Allenby look abit silly. Brilliant eagle.

yes golf in ausgaf....deal with it

Watching the golf as well, awesome shot by Woods.
 

Yagharek

Member
Kerrby said:
Well "hopefully" because I'd rather them do something than nothing and get some good TV on there. That should be fairly obvious.

No at your last comment, won't happen (9 and 7).

Of course it wont happen, I was wishful thinking. Should be obvious.

But then you were being unrealistic in expecting ch10 to get some good programming going, as if the last 5 years havent demonstrated the point enough.
 

Kerrby

Banned
legend166 said:
So I think some dodgy stuff is going to come out about the Roebuck situation, sadly.

There is an ongoing police investigation into events surrounding his death and it is understood he was being questioned by police at the time.

Police have removed personal items from his room and took his body to the mortuary in the early hours of the morning.

In his diary of a season "It Never Rains'', Roebuck reflected upon how strange it was "that cricket attracts so many insecure men.''

"It is surely the very worst game for an intense character, yet it continues to find many obtuse sensitivities among its players,'' he said.

"Men of imagination, men of ideals risk its harsh exposures.''

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...-in-south-africa/story-e6frg7mf-1226193735099
 

midonnay

Member
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-...moved-after-misdiagnosis/3663278/?site=sydney

A man from the New South Wales Central Coast is suing his local district health service after an alleged cancer misdiagnosis led to 80 per cent of his stomach being removed.

Graham Lord was diagnosed with an aggressive stomach cancer in late 2009 on the back of pathology results from the Gosford Hospital.

Mr Lord had most of his stomach removed and seven chemotherapy sessions.

Documents lodged in the Supreme Court say that doctors at Royal North Shore Hospital, where Mr Lord had the operation, told him he never had cancer in the first place.
 

Fusebox

Banned
Jintor said:
Australian television is balls.

I watched Australian TV today for the first time in months, UFC finale was on One HD. Great picture quality but I had forgotten about ad breaks, fuck I hate those.
 
RandomVince said:
My bet is on b, and not as him being a suspect, rather someone who unfortunately may have known too much.
I agree, which sucks for the future of the sport.


RandomVince said:
Why "hopefully"?

I'd love to see them go belly up along with 9 and 7.
I would prefer to see them all start to put high quality programs on.
 

Yagharek

Member
reptilescorpio said:
I agree, which sucks for the future of the sport.



I would prefer to see them all start to put high quality programs on.

As would I, but I'm being realistic: the 3 commercial channels are digging for bottom.
 

Shaneus

Member
Well, wasn't it Channel 9 that picked up Big Brother or something? Fucking puh-leaze. Hope that puts them under, I have no respect for any TV stations anymore... especially when you consider that with the internet, they should be IMPROVING their programming to compete.
 

Fusebox

Banned
The quality of the content is not the problem with Australian TV:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_advertisement

Australian television has one of the highest advertising content in the world. Prime-time can see 18 minutes or more of ads per hour. Furthermore, product ads wrapped up in informational content are labeled "public service announcements" and not included in the time restrictions; similarly with "this program brought to you by..." announcements, and station identifications. Consequently Australian viewers might see less than 40 minutes of actual program time per hour. Foreign, older television programs and movies are noticeably shortened; comedy shows often return from an ad break into laughter, for instance. Australia is also one of the few countries in the world where advertisements may appear prior to, and over the top of, the closing credits of a program.

Not to mention shitty station watermarks getting larger more opaque and volume boosting ads which is done by reducing the volume of the actual show so they don't fall foul of the volume laws.

That's why I only watch Netflix, Hulu or torrents. Fuck Australian TV.
 

legend166

Member
RandomVince said:
Same here. Speculation wise, do you think it has more to do with which of the following themes:

a) Drunken violence/one off incident
b) Match fixing
c) Personal problems

My bet is on b, and not as him being a suspect, rather someone who unfortunately may have known too much.

Huge disclaimer - this may or may not be true, but it comes from a pretty trustworthy source - he jumped off the top of the hotel building.

So if someone gets interviewed by police and then subsequently jumps off a building, something fishy is going on.

I feel bad speculating on what it could be, but if you know of his past you can guess what people will be talking about.
 

legend166

Member
Fusebox said:
The quality of the content is not the problem with Australian TV:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_advertisement



Not to mention shitty station watermarks getting larger more opaque and volume boosting ads which is done by reducing the volume of the actual show so they don't fall foul of the volume laws.

That's why I only watch Netflix, Hulu or torrents. Fuck Australian TV.

18 minutes per hour is the standard in America.
 
roosters93 said:
Did you see the snow white and the huntsman trailer? I found it pretty meh.
yeah thats how i knew whats her face was in it.
why do people keep giving her and transformers guy work.
i dont know anyone who likes them.
 
Fusebox said:
The quality of the content is not the problem with Australian TV:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_advertisement



Not to mention shitty station watermarks getting larger more opaque and volume boosting ads which is done by reducing the volume of the actual show so they don't fall foul of the volume laws.

That's why I only watch Netflix, Hulu or torrents. Fuck Australian TV.

Yep, that'll do it. I basically watch no tv at all now, except if I switch on ABC NEWS24 or maybe one of the SBS channels for Japanese News (which has no ad interruptions)/ Rockwiz/ Iron chef.

The advertising on commercial TV is ridiculous.
 
Furthermore, product ads wrapped up in informational content are labeled "public service announcements" and not included in the time restrictions; similarly with "this program brought to you by..." announcements, and station identifications.
Da fuck? That really needs to be changed now that there are a hundred different psa companies hocking shit in advertising form.

RandomVince said:
As would I, but I'm being realistic: the 3 commercial channels are digging for bottom.
They shoot for ratings unfortunately. The majority of the population are quite happy watching Celebrity The Apprentice or Home & Away. Maybe we need to hypnotise them into liking higher quality programming. Shaneus is correct, if Channel 9 are willing to scrape up the remains of Big Brother after it was tossed aside by the Australian public and ducked into pieces by 10 then I can't see them ignoring the shitty programming any time soon. Would be nice to actually use my TV for TV one day, aside from the odd bit of sport.
 

HolyCheck

I want a tag give me a tag
The Conseil supérieur de l'audiovisuel allows up to 9 minutes of advertising per hour on average in a day. Private channels can only broadcast one commercial break if the show is less than an hour and two commercial break if the show is more than an hour. For public channels, the advertising is forbidden after 8 p.m and will completely disappear in 2012.

Damn you France
 
Well, I've given up on UC3. I think I'm up to chapter 13 or something. The part that I've given up on is
a fight on the deck/pit of a ship with a huge armoured mother fucker and a grenade launching prick up on a higher deck
.

It's not particularly that part that has forced me to quit, more of a case of the final straw. For most of the game I've felt like I'm fighting the controls and whatever Drake ends up doing is more pot luck than what I intended. For example, in the part in the spoiler tag, I assume I'm meant to be dodging a fair bit. The 'dodge' button is the same as the 'cover' button. The location in full of cover. Huzzah, let's play the game of "Drake takes cover instead of dodging and dies." I'll just deftly jump out of your way, you stupid evil doer!! Oh, I ended up crouching in front of you, and you and you friends have just shot and granade me to death in 3 seconds. Fun.

The platforming, such as it is, is less fun than previous iterations, at least from what I remember. In an attempt to make the movement more realistic, they added more canned animations to the beginning and end animations. This means even a slight movement ends up in a extended animation and overshooting of where you intended to go. It leads to the feeling that the characters are on ice.

Sometimes the NPCs just won't get out of the fucking way in corridors. I've had to reload a save because of this.

Despite the game hand holding for most of the time, sometimes it tells you absolutely nothing and leave it up to you to figire out that you need to climb a mast to get out of the area. Sometimes you get 'hint' tips shoved down your throat in the most obvious situations, sometimes you get none. Sometime the characters endless explain what you need to do through dialogue. Usually this is in a situation where you need to find a particular angle in a room. I know what I'm doing, I'm trying to find it. When you don't know what you're doing, they let you go for 10mins before offering help.

I want to be able to break out of a fist fight quickly, so that I may avoid the gunfire of the 3 other people that have appeared. I don't want to be stuck in this animation. I don't.

I haven't enjoyed the story that much, either.

If the controls are frustrating, the character interplay hasn't been that great and the story hasn't grabbed me, why am I playing?

The answer is that I'm going back to Batman. A game that I felt I had complete and utter control it. A game that I was the motherfucking Batman.

I will come back to Uncharted later. Maybe. I've got a huge backlog of games; games that I won't feel frustrated in most of the time.

So far, this game scores a 6.
 
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