Avengers Doomsday Cast Announced

wondermega

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So if RDJ is dr doom, who plays iron man if he’s in the movie?
War Machine (although I don't see Cheadle listed above, shrug). He was "proper Iron Man" in the original Secret Wars comics, for whatever that is worth - and I believe the Armor Wars film that was supposed to be his vehicle, got shelved indefinitely.
 

Doom85

Member
They're retconning X-Men 3 then? Or I suppose with the multiverse they can do anything.
True, I already retconned that movie in my mind. 😆

They already brought Cyclops back to life with Days of Future Past.

No Guardians? No Hulk? No Red Hulk? No Wolverine? No Daredevil, Hawkeye, Girl Hawkeye, Moon Knight, or the real heavy hitters Captain Marvel, Ms. Marvel, and the other one?

Other than Thor and perhaps Cyclops, every one on this roster would get dusted by even a C string cosmic level villain. Girl Ironman didn't even make the cut? No Eternals?

I suspect they will be doling out names for months as they try to sustain any level of excitement. Stewart is a ghost of himself, he can't muster the energy necessary to command the room as Xavier. Not sure about McKellan, haven't seen him in anything for a stretch. But I woulda gone with the younger actor versions, personally.
No hulk? Wtf...
What about Doctor Strange, Spider-Man, Hulk (red and green), Ms Marvel, Captain Marvel, and the Eternals?

They are ditching Tom Holland and Brie Larson?

Is there a reason they won't show up? I forgot what happened in the films leading up to this.

It was already confirmed Dr. Strange won’t be in Avengers Doomsday. The first (upcoming) Avengers film isn’t designed to star everyone, as there needs to be a heavy focus on the F4 and especially Dr. Doom. Think about how Thanos was sort of the protagonist of Infinity War, and that movie also didn’t feature Hawkeye and Ant-man

The leaked concept art was for Secret Wars, which showed at least some of the missing characters you all brought up.

Specifically Hulk, She-Hulk, Star-Lord, Wong, White Vision, Ms. Marvel, Kate Bishop/Hawkeye II, and Wanda’s kids.

Also, my mind is blown that Alan Cumming-

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-is willing to return as Nightcrawler after he refused to return for X3 as he complained about the makeup process, which was so frustrating to hear since Rebecca Romijn was allergic to her makeup (which was full body, Alan only had to have his head, hands, and feet done) yet she was willing to do three films. Well, glad to have him back.
 
Also, my mind is blown that Alan Cumming-

-is willing to return as Nightcrawler after he refused to return for X3 as he complained about the makeup process, which was so frustrating to hear since Rebecca Romijn was allergic to her makeup (which was full body, Alan only had to have his head, hands, and feet done) yet she was willing to do three films. Well, glad to have him back.
Probably a function of how badly he wants/needs the money at this point in time. Though that reminds me of how by the last of the recent X-Men movies, they had basically given up on showing Mystique as a mutant because JLaw didn't want to do makeup.
 

IntentionalPun

Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
Probably a function of how badly he wants/needs the money at this point in time. Though that reminds me of how by the last of the recent X-Men movies, they had basically given up on showing Mystique as a mutant because JLaw didn't want to do makeup.
Yeah guy isn't exactly working on blockbuster movies these days lol

But they also do a lot more CGI than practical makeup anyways these days for whiny actors.
 

DKehoe

Member
They already brought Cyclops back to life with Days of Future Past.





It was already confirmed Dr. Strange won’t be in Avengers Doomsday. The first (upcoming) Avengers film isn’t designed to star everyone, as there needs to be a heavy focus on the F4 and especially Dr. Doom. Think about how Thanos was sort of the protagonist of Infinity War, and that movie also didn’t feature Hawkeye and Ant-man

The leaked concept art was for Secret Wars, which showed at least some of the missing characters you all brought up.

Specifically Hulk, She-Hulk, Star-Lord, Wong, White Vision, Ms. Marvel, Kate Bishop/Hawkeye II, and Wanda’s kids.

Also, my mind is blown that Alan Cumming-

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-is willing to return as Nightcrawler after he refused to return for X3 as he complained about the makeup process, which was so frustrating to hear since Rebecca Romijn was allergic to her makeup (which was full body, Alan only had to have his head, hands, and feet done) yet she was willing to do three films. Well, glad to have him back.
He’s actually returning as his character from Eyes Wide Shut.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
These movies are going to need to make Avatar money to pay for this cast.
The first scene of this film had better be a dump truck, leaving dollar bills in its wake, pulling away from Xaviers mansion :p

Can't wait for the "who got paid what" leaks so see that all the POC new character actors got pennies compared to these old ass legacy white actors.

Of course the reason is that all these new actors are still under their multi-film contracts while they gotta drop $$$ to get these old actors outta bed but the internet grifter outrage will be what it will be.
 
The first scene of this film had better be a dump truck, leaving dollar bills in its wake, pulling away from Xaviers mansion :p

Can't wait for the "who got paid what" leaks so see that all the POC new character actors got pennies compared to these old ass legacy white actors.

Of course the reason is that all these new actors are still under their multi-film contracts while they gotta drop $$$ to get these old actors outta bed but the internet grifter outrage will be what it will be.
120 year old Ian McKellan stumbling around as Magneto is still better to watch than most of the current Marvel cast.

The reason they rehire Iron Man and bring in the old X-Men is because their movies and cast are flopping left and right.

Why the they arent getting Wolverine is the weird part, people rather watch 60 year old Hugh Jackman than anyone in the current Avengers. He is still a top tier superhero casting and they should milk him (no homo) while they still can.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
120 year old Ian McKellan stumbling around as Magneto is still better to watch than most of the current Marvel cast.

The reason they rehire Iron Man and bring in the old X-Men is because their movies and cast are flopping left and right.

Why the they arent getting Wolverine is the weird part, people rather watch 60 year old Hugh Jackman than anyone in the current Avengers. He is still a top tier superhero casting and they should milk him (no homo) while they still can.
1000% he will be in there, even if an end credit cameo. Undoubtedly the DP3 deal opened the door for it. A massive death scene (again) leaving nothing but the skeleton behind is my guess. How else to show the power of Doom than have him nuke all these ancient legacy characters?

They need to get Dafne Keen back though, cause.....goddamn!

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Her and Hailee Seinfeld teamed up with lots of black latex....yeah I'd watch that.
 

HRK69

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1000% he will be in there, even if an end credit cameo. Undoubtedly the DP3 deal opened the door for it. A massive death scene (again) leaving nothing but the skeleton behind is my guess. How else to show the power of Doom than have him nuke all these ancient legacy characters?

They need to get Dafne Keen back though, cause.....goddamn!

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Her and Hailee Seinfeld teamed up with lots of black latex....yeah I'd watch that.
That's sad

Instead of this kindergarten-level nonsense, maybe just go watch some porn?
 

Doom85

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That’s not all.

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Yeah, I’m not surprised they’re keeping some secret, though it certainly won’t be everyone, as again, the focus will be on the F4 and especially Doom in Doomsday. While Secret Wars will likely be the full ensemble.

I predict:

-it was reported that Strange won’t be in Doomsday. This tracks given he left with Clea to the Dark Dimension at the end of Dr. Strange 2, so I imagine he’ll return in Secret Wars, horrified by what Doom has done to reality

-the characters shown in the leaked concept art for Avengers Secret Wars will mostly not be in Doomsday I imagine. Wong could be an exception given he contacted Shang-Chi at the end of the latter’s movie, plus he could remind the audience where Strange went for those who didn’t see or forgot that part of Strange 2 and were wondering where Strange is. But Hulk, She-Hulk, Star-Lord, the Young Avengers, and White Vision will likely be in Secret Wars and not Doomsday

-Hugh Jackman’s Wolverine will likely return in Secret Wars. While some OG cast X-men characters may die in Doomsday, I imagine Marsden will be most likely to survive so he and Logan can team up properly and be badasses together rather than having friction between them because Logan is weirdly obsessed with a lady he knew for like three days (I’m not big on Logan’s drawn out infatuation with Jean in the comics either, but at least in the comics he knew her for much longer).

I could see others like Halle Berry and Shawn Ashmore returning, but probably in Secret Wars.

-Ryan Reynolds will likely return in Secret Wars. Ryan has said he wants to focus on his family for now, but I figure he would be willing to do at least a handful of scenes in this, it’s just a Deadpool 4 is unlikely for a good while now

-Tobey Maguire and/or Andrew Garfield are strong maybes for Secret Wars
 

Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
Fuckin' finally some X-Men stuff and old cast from the first trilogy no less. The ice has broken and moving in the right direction.

Also, maybe HJ and others can and will comback for a standalone X-Men movie at some point as well, or at least I really hope so. Exciting times. Someone has to fix Last Stand mistake as if it never happened and make a true continuation of X2. I mean, if Ryan Reynolds saved Deadpool, I'm sure there's something can be done about Last Stand.
 
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Doom85

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Also, maybe HJ and others can and will comback for a standalone X-Men movie at some point as well, or at least I really hope so. Exciting times. Someone has to fix Last Stand mistake as if it never happened and make a true continuation of X2. I mean, if Ryan Reynolds saved Deadpool, I'm sure there's something can be done about Last Stand.

The events of Last Stand were already heavily altered by Days of Future Past, to the point that Scott and Jean were alive in 2024 (which is the year when the final scene of the movie where Logan wakes up in “the new future” takes place in).
 

Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
The events of Last Stand were already heavily altered by Days of Future Past, to the point that Scott and Jean were alive in 2024 (which is the year when the final scene of the movie where Logan wakes up in “the new future” takes place in).
Yeah, but you can't fix the Last Stand with that, you can only do a patch work after. What I want to see is a much better continuation of X2 as if Last Stand wasn't even a think. They need to do justice to the Dark Phoenix story and to put it lightly, they sure didn't in the Last Stand and in movies that came after. Days of Future Past is great btw (Rogue Cut especially), love it to death as well as the first movie.

Like, I'm sure most of the cast can come back and reprise their roles easily for the new trilogy. I just hope it won't be a thing like with the past MCU where it has to be connected to Avengers and all other movies, this shit needs to go away. It's fine if they'll show X-Men in Doomsday as a way for them to then be a completely separate thing and series.
 
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Budget for this film is going to come close to $1 billion. $700-800 million range. Wonder what happens if they don’t make their money back.
 

DeafTourette

Perpetually Offended
Yeah, but you can't fix the Last Stand with that, you can only do a patch work after. What I want to see is a much better continuation of X2 as if Last Stand wasn't even a think. They need to do justice to the Dark Phoenix story and to put it lightly, they sure didn't in the Last Stand and in movies that came after. Days of Future Past is great btw (Rogue Cut especially), love it to death as well as the first movie.

Like, I'm sure most of the cast can come back and reprise their roles easily for the new trilogy. I just hope it won't be a thing like with the past MCU where it has to be connected to Avengers and all other movies, this shit needs to go away. It's fine if they'll show X-Men in Doomsday as a way for them to then be a completely separate thing and series.

That's not happening (separate universes)... Like the comics, they're all gonna be in the same universe after Secret Wars. They might eventually right the ship as far as Phoenix but they're not doing a continuation of X2. It'll be a new universe we have after SW is done. That also means new actors taking over the roles of a lot of the OG X-Men if not all of them.
 

DelireMan7

Member
Wow, I dropped MCU after the horrible Thor 4 and now I see a bunch of mutants into the universe ?!

Might need to catch up a bit.
 

T8SC

Member
These movies simply aren't making the numbers they once were, since Endgame only Spider-Man (Known property/sequel) and GotG (Known property/sequel) have broke $1b the rest have hit between $199m (Loss) & $952 (Known property/sequel Dr Strange).

People just aren't devoting another 15yrs into more phases of the same generic shit.

We're in the Endgame now.
 

AJUMP23

Parody of actual AJUMP23
Probably more. RDJ was getting $50 million per movie before. Probably up to $100m now.

I think RDJ a lot of that 50 was on the back end. I know to comeback he probably got a ton guaranteed. I was figuring he is a 50 mil and the others get less. Jackman probably the second most, and a guy like Marsdon getting 200k or something. Although I bet he gets more since the sonic success.
 
80 million for Doomsday and Secret Wars which are filming back to back. Everyone else is stuck in their STILL going contracts.
According to Variety, significantly more than that. They are paying the directors alone $80mil to direct the two movies.

 

jason10mm

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According to Variety, significantly more than that. They are paying the directors alone $80mil to direct the two movies.

Marvel is so desperate to rekindle that heyday fire they are just burning money. All those old men got PAID to show up cause NONE OF THEM are hungry for work. Even just a quick cameo before it's off to cgi land (like Rebecca Romaine Stamos [she will always be RRS to me]) with mystique, that had to be a cool couple of mill.

Unless they just went with the cheapest ones they could get, story be damned. Paquin held out for too much so she is out. Ashmore wanted too much so sub in Nightcrawler, they can both do the same cg thing to Doom before getting smashed, right?
 
Marvel is so desperate to rekindle that heyday fire they are just burning money. All those old men got PAID to show up cause NONE OF THEM are hungry for work. Even just a quick cameo before it's off to cgi land (like Rebecca Romaine Stamos [she will always be RRS to me]) with mystique, that had to be a cool couple of mill.

Unless they just went with the cheapest ones they could get, story be damned. Paquin held out for too much so she is out. Ashmore wanted too much so sub in Nightcrawler, they can both do the same cg thing to Doom before getting smashed, right?
I would guess they had a bring out a couple dump trucks full of cash to get Stewart and McKellan to play along, then low balled the remaining cast until they could get enough bites that they can call it X-Men.
 
I wonder how much screen time each of these actors/actress will have?
I bet most will have a 5min scene :messenger_winking:
Nice way for Disney to save money from both salaries and deaging CGI
 
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jason10mm

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I would guess they had a bring out a couple dump trucks full of cash to get Stewart and McKellan to play along, then low balled the remaining cast until they could get enough bites that they can call it X-Men.
It's who is NOT in this that is interesting. The roster is nonsensical and not really stratified based in aligned interests, common pasts, "enemy of my enemy is my friend", or any of that. It's like the script was written as a madlib with blanks for all the characters so they could slot in whoever they could get. Where is Valkyrie? Isn't she on Earth, in charge of the largest population of technologically advanced folks (perhaps outside of Wakanda but I think Asgard tech was superior)? Who is throwing around Mjolnir now? Shouldn't they be making another golden coffin for Lady Thor?

It's just so random, half that cast hasn't been on screen for decades, the rest were in mid level flicks at best or "Still to come". If FF4 tanks (seems unlikely but no one really knows) and they are the anchor for this MASSIVE film.....ugh. And now we know that Thunderbolts has ZERO stakes since the entire cast is showing up again. I mean, death was always a joke in the MCU but now even the scrub teams are effectively invincible which makes the villains even more of a punchline.

About the only name they could have put up there that would have made me sit up and take notice would have been Michael B. Jordan (or Anna Paquin, for reasons I've already stated).
 

Lunarorbit

Member
This got leaked yesterday. Makes sense this is just a partial list.

Still angry dr doom isn't getting his glow up. Rdj is iron man not doom. I wonder how they'll explain dr dooms mastery of magic in this as Stark is a technologist.

I'm hoping he's just a doombot and they have another actor to play doom full time
 

jason10mm

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And WTF happened to Sam L. Jacksons Nick Fury? If he just off in space somewhere? Did I miss the resolution to him and the scrulls in some D+ show? Or The Marvels? He's a notable name missing as well.
 
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