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Avowed art director calls Elon Musk a "sad little shit" over Avowed gender pronoun complaints, indicates more of the same in final product
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Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
It's not going away. This is the whole of the western video game industry now and it's going to stay like this and actually going to get worse.
GHG
Member
My DM's are open.
But, once again, I'm gonna politely remind that extended media is in most cases not canon. And there are no overt, or even implied, hints of the things you're saying in the actual games themselves.
Once again, not part of the game and the manga in question that you're referring to is an adaptation of the game which made changes to various key elements of the game, it is not a continuation or expansion of the universe, it is an alternate retelling by someone other than the game's writers or creators:
This manga features three new characters, and several events are altered from the video game.
case closed
Dude, the comics were written with the collaboration of the creators of the game.
I'm curious to know where you feel the book and movie fit in to all of this. You don't get to just dismiss all the content surrounding the game because it doesn't fit your current agenda.
All of this is absolutely bizarre by the way, you're throwing parasite eve and fear effect (both of which are game series which tackle mature themes in interesting ways while also featuring female protagonists) under the bus in the name of Avowed.
How many more classics need to be sacrificed in your relentless defence of this game?
cireza
Member
Yeah, can't believe how much I am disappointed and I didn't even invest a penny in the game. This has to be a record.
I was already expecting some Hexen goodness and instead they delivered a trip to Disneyland.
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elbourreau
Member
GHG
Member
What's funny about this is that you guys were all so busy bug hunting during spiderman 2's release window that you weren't smart enough to call out the overt wokeness scattered throughout the game.
Spider-Man 2 is the buggiest Sony AAA release ever
Finished Spider-Man 2 last night, and it's seriously great. Better than both the original and Miles, and Insomniac did an AMAZING job melding two iconic late-80s Spider-Man stories while including modern canon elements to make it familiar to current comic readers. They seriously made a better...
There was plenty to attack that game over, but as usual the witless rats chose the wrong angle.
Still not played it by the way and most likely never will. Not being a massive fan of the first game pretty much saved me there considering the fact that they kept all the preachy nonsense under-wraps until it released.
Also glad to see
ManaByte
is back, I wonder what he's got cooking for us with this game after his unsuccessful defense of dragon age.
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Fabieter
Member
Damn!adamsapple defence like a pro.
This thread is delivering.
Sony hypocrites exposed
Rpg defence!
Even providing receipts better thanGHG
I feel like ive missed so much. I've just been delivering parcels all weekend.
Still, this avowed guy is a knob and he's ruined the game but at least we got all this.
Im still playing it. I survived spider man 2 with flags everywhere gay missions. Woke agenda out the ass. Then we see horizon with its incredible rpg elements. Such rpg greatness. With included developer melt down online.
You can't write this shit and how much these clowns expose themselves as hypocrites. Love it.
Exposing Sony hypocrisy while shitting on the same stuff in the past is an interesting angle.
DenchDeckard
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Yup. Clown shoeI don't know how you can look at these two quotes byHeisenberg007 and not find his stance on The Outer Worlds 'wokeness' not hypocritical. No body is allying themselves with anybody, but i would assume if you have a problem with 'woke' video games that would extend to all video games, not just video games published by MS, because clearly he doesn't mind, when a Sony game is 'woke'.
What's funny about this is that you guys were all so busy bug hunting during spiderman 2's release window that you weren't smart enough to call out the overt wokeness scattered throughout the game.
Spider-Man 2 is the buggiest Sony AAA release ever
Finished Spider-Man 2 last night, and it's seriously great. Better than both the original and Miles, and Insomniac did an AMAZING job melding two iconic late-80s Spider-Man stories while including modern canon elements to make it familiar to current comic readers. They seriously made a better...www.neogaf.com
There was plenty to attack that game over, but as usual the witless rats chose the wrong angle.
Still not played it by the way and most likely never will. Not being a massive fan of the first game pretty much saved me there considering the fact that they kept all the preachy nonsense under-wraps until it released.
Also glad to see
Ah yes. I remember how buggy spiderman 2 was at launch. I never had any issues myself.
Just funny that none of the Sony guys were attacking that game for literally having the pride flag. Huge murals for woke agenda. A change to MJs face to look trans. All that good stuff.
Sony guys are hilarious pushing this agenda now when sonys games are the OG for pushing this stuff.
Like ive said. No sign of the same energy.
Id rather be a green rat than a hypocritical clown.
Also, why would I call out woke stuff if I'm not generally bothered by it. It's you guys and the other Sony zealots that are showing they have a problem with it.
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Bernardougf
Member
He trys so very hard to fake neutrality .. and more often than not is caught in contradiction... I learned to just laugh at his attempts, its very amusing.
Fabieter
Member
Bernardougf
Member
We have so much to do right now between movies, series, games, books ... its the easiest time ever to say "fuck it" for a product you think is not for you even if in thr past you would have blindly supported... and the producers/studios in every media are learning this the hardway and as long as they keep in denial about the current cultural shift they will continue to bomb and make up excuses for the failure and move to the next failure.What's funny about this is that you guys were all so busy bug hunting during spiderman 2's release window that you weren't smart enough to call out the overt wokeness scattered throughout the game.
Spider-Man 2 is the buggiest Sony AAA release ever
Finished Spider-Man 2 last night, and it's seriously great. Better than both the original and Miles, and Insomniac did an AMAZING job melding two iconic late-80s Spider-Man stories while including modern canon elements to make it familiar to current comic readers. They seriously made a better...
There was plenty to attack that game over, but as usual the witless rats chose the wrong angle.
Still not played it by the way and most likely never will. Not being a massive fan of the first game pretty much saved me there considering the fact that they kept all the preachy nonsense under-wraps until it released.
Also glad to see
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I do try to stay neutral. I buy everything. I own everything. I've always said that I am more tied into the xbox eco system for third parties and always have been. Ive never hidden that fact.
I have also said that I can't stand extreme Sony fans.
But i get it. Its now turning into attack the user instead of the thread and looking in the mirror.
You guys have obviously mastered this stuff with the help of
GHG
receipt gathering. I can't imagine how many xbox fans or Xbox leaning users have been banned and pushed away from the community that
EviLore
created to be neutral and balanced due to their preference in gaming platform. It's genius stuff and should be applauded in someway but it doesn't help this awesome community in the long run.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Between you and ghg I'm sure you can hit me with some serious receipts.
Unless it's anything Horizon forbidden west related because I didn't go anywhere near that game.
Just list games I've defended for DEI/WOKE and then attack a sony game for having it.
Should be easy right?
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PeteBull
Member
Reveal trailer was first thing they did and it was pure cgi, aka simply bullshot
Fabieter
Member
You consistently criticize PlayStation-related matters with a lot of energy but never show the same level of critique for Xbox. Then, you call others hypocrites while claiming you're neutral just because you own all platforms? Be for real!
ValiantInstance
Member
That announcement trailer made me think they're coming for Elder Scrolls.
The latest stuff makes me think they're coming for Starfield.
The latest stuff makes me think they're coming for Starfield.
Bernardougf
Member
I do try to stay neutral. I buy everything. I own everything. I've always said that I am more tied into the xbox eco system for third parties and always have been. Ive never hidden that fact.
I have also said that I can't stand extreme Sony fans.
But i get it. Its now turning into attack the user instead of the thread and looking in the mirror.
You guys have obviously mastered this stuff with the help of
It's genius stuff and should be applauded in someway but it doesn't help this awesome community in the long run.
Oh I definitely dont want you pushed away or banned .. in the past I would engage on your bullshit ... now I have fun watching the interactions and wish you long life on this forum bro.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Hey, I'm far from perfect. But, I know deep down that most of us here are good people and I'd genuinely sit and drink with all of you. It would be great i think.
I do not do well in written format. I'm physical in real life and very empathetic towards people so I don't think any of that comes across in my posts here.
Plus, I get it. I've said dumb shit in the past. Trying my best to improve it.
That's why I love
GHG
Receipts because I can read things that I've written and I'll think. What the fuck was I thinking that's not what I intended or I see how it comes across as warring etc. We all can improve.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I rip the piss out of Xbox and ms. Look at my post history. Legitimately do it.
GHG
Member
Here's the thread:
NG: "Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 butchers Spanish language to be “inclusive”"
https://nichegamer.com/marvels-spider-man-2-butchers-spanish-language-to-be-inclusive/ Social media users learned the (alleged) Spanish version of Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 alters the Spanish language to be inclusive, and to the point of it being grammatically incorrect. The Twitter user shared a...
Here's the thread on insomniac's practices:
NSFW - leaked Insomniac inclusivity training video
Knock yourself out.
P. S. stop having a meltdown, it's a Sunday, have a cuppa and spend some time with your kids.
Fabieter
Member
I seriously can't find anything but "pissing out" is highly subjective so I believe you bro.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
So you're not bothered with woke stuff, and that's why you are not calling it out in Avowed?
So why did that negatively affect your experience in Spider-Man?
If you are not bothered by the woke stuff, why did you leave so many comments in Sony games about the DEI/Woke stuff? And why did you wanted Concord to burn because of its woke stuff?
You are one of the only people who claim that even Astrobot was woke
Bumblebeetuna
Member
You don’t understand, he’s grown so much since then. Now he doesn’t even care about real RPG’s or choices.
They tried this earlier with me and the best they could do was two Microsoft games and they still tried to twist it into console warz somehow. It’s sad but that makes it funny.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
That’s what happens when you play every piece of trash under the sun and have no distinct taste or values.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
No, I just asked what some good LGBTQ written games are from the PS1 era that you mentioned a few pages ago, Parasite Eve is decidedly not one, we have concluded. There's just that one you mentioned Ark Raiders that I haven't played personally so I can't comment on it and will defer to your word.
And, I can tell you as someone who has pursued dozens of Resident Evil mangas and manhuas, these things are not canon. Leon has a fist fight with a licker in one and Nemesis and Birkin have an epic one on one fight in one which Nemesis wins, neither are things that any of the official media has. These one's were also official Capcom collaborations but that doesn't mean jack shit.
Especially in this case the Parasite Eve manga is specifically labeled as something that edits events from the main game and adds / removes characters.
Damn!
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Then (Spider Man 2)
Then (Horizon: Forbidden West)
Now (Outer Worlds)
Actual RPG:
Let's you be the ultimate dick-head and kill the girl right in front of her love interest.
My man changed his entire ideology based on the publisher of the game.
I love you
Heisenberg007
but you have dug yourself into the deepest of holes here
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Am I in time for the second round or is it too late?
I'm going to create a blonde female, name her Aya Brea and have her exclusively romance girls just to make my man
GHG
feel correct in this instance 
Davey Cakes
Member
Not a fan of Musk, but you don't need to tank your game over him.
Damn it, this will be the best content on neogaf in all of 2024, you will 100% get a second Oscar from the site's editors, I'm all for itI'm going to create a blonde female, name her Aya Brea and have her exclusively romance girls just to make my man
Dirk Benedict
Member
This thread has me in stitches. Lmao!
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
I think it’ll get better. But probably be a slow process. Hollyweird and big corps are already starting to wise up and move away from DEI.
Eventually the love of money will trump the virtue signaling. No pun intended.
Topher
Identifies as young
Damn thing went down the rabbit hole....that is certain. I have no idea what the hell any of this is about any more.
Don't mind me though
Dirk Benedict
Member
Good times.Damn thing went down the rabbit hole....that is certain. I have no idea what the hell any of this is about any more.
Don't mind me though
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Damn thing went down the rabbit hole....that is certain. I have no idea what the hell any of this is about any more.
Don't mind me though
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Then (Spider Man 2)
Then (Horizon: Forbidden West)
Now (Outer Worlds)
Actual RPG:
Let's you be the ultimate dick-head and kill the girl right in front of her love interest.
My man changed his entire ideology based on the publisher of the game.
I love you
I wonder why you didn't quote these comment of mine?
I mean, it couldn't possibly be that you are just trying to create a fake outrage here and divert the attention away from your friends' hypocrisy.
vaibhavpisal
Member
This is their “worst” rpg. Lol.
I don’t try everything in Obsidian games, maybe I should. Mostly I focus on their writing, that I always enjoy. Even this feels decent.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Damn thing went down the rabbit hole....that is certain. I have no idea what the hell any of this is about any more.
Don't mind me though
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I wonder why you didn't quote these comment of mine?
Well of course now you feel differently about it, after all 2023 was such a long time ago
Outer Worlds is a perfectly fine RPG, is it Obsidian's best written game? No, but the choice and consequences in it are still better and more impactful than most RPG's releasing today.
If you haven't, give it a shot. It's up on both PS+ and Game Pass, so very easy to access with 60fps options on modern consoles.
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vaibhavpisal
Member
I have played it.
There is a fair bit of reactivity, but mostly I refrain from experimenting with it, to ensure desired outcome. It all seems fragile and you never know when situation gets out of hand.
Maybe I should, just like I do with Bethesda games. Where I attempt to shoot every character at least once to see what happens.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
You can absolutely do that, it's very fun actually lol.
Outer Worlds also has one of my favorite "dumb character builds" in a game where you keep your intelligence etc stat as low as possible. It opens up a lot of unique dialogue and even different endings to the game altogether.
Fabieter
Member
It's a relatively small rpg isn't it? How's the pacing? Is it a typical rpg slower burner? Maybe I will give it shot later tonight xD.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Smaller compared to a TES for sure but it's not a small game in general, with side quests and companion stuff it will be 20~25 hours, more if you're a completionist. It's not a single massive land slab, made up of multiple big ' zones'.
If you end up liking the main game, it also has 2 story expansions which have their own self-contained plots.
Some subjective issues like character models not looking that great aside, it's the natural evolution of Obsidian's quest style post Fallout NV.
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It depends on how you play, if you just stupidly run through the story then yes, you can easily manage it in 15 hours, if you do all the quests and everything, well, you can stretch it out for 40 hours, on average everyone gets 20-25 hours. If you take into account the content and the world, then yes, this is probably the shortest Obsidian game. Although its main problem is that it came out after Tyranny (In my opinion, a very underrated game) and two parts of Pillars of Eternity, which in terms of dialogue, characters and history are much better and more interesting. Despite the fact that I played it, you can put a gun to my head, I don’t remember anything from this game at all, only individual scraps of the plot.
Fabieter
Member
Maybe I should give it a go. There might be chance my current self will stick with it xD.
Kokoloko85
Member
I remember him being pretty harsh on Concord for the same reasons.
I respect your defence of Avowed. I was there once, enjoying a game and it got take away from me lol. I wish you luck
Fuck Elon, sunovbitch is trying to buy his preferred candidate into office then make political recommendations to help make investigations by the SEC and FTC go away and he can get more tax cuts and federal subsidizes courtesy of the U.S. taxpayers. Privitize the gains and socialize the losses. Richest man in the world gets involved in petty culture war issues about video games of all things. If only someone would have let him sit at the cool kids table at high school, we could have been spared this bullshit.
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Giallo Corsa
Member
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
This is correct. There is only like one instance of a close friend that maybe Aya had sentimental feeling towards but they get killed so regardless it defaults to Kyle.
Furthermore the grasping at straws with the artwork is amusing since it's illustrating how Eve is getting inside Aya's head given the connection with Mitochondria.