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[Zacfoldor]

Some games can get away with plenty of woke if they are great enough. It is not hypocrisy to play good woke videogames and avoid bad ones! Woke is simply a new facet of the review process. Too much woke removes overall points.

You are just mad because you don't agree with the majority of people who buy high quality, high up front cost videogames. Good luck changing gamers though, you know it ain't gonna happen. Best to adapt to our wishes. Remove the woke fellas. You are selling a product. You don't get to whine about it bombing if you ignore your audience for the sake of art or vision. We don't like it, now you can keep putting it in and go broke or take it out and make money again.

Bison: For you, the day Bison graced your village was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was Tuesday.

 

[DenchDeckard]

I keep hoping that when this thread gets bumped, that its the announcement that this guy has been let go from the studio.

Hopefully soon.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I keep hoping that when this thread gets bumped, that its the announcement that this guy has been let go from the studio.

Hopefully soon.

the studio has his back. the official Twitter is blocking users, MS is encouraging this behavior.

 

[Zacfoldor]

the studio has his back. the official Twitter is blocking users, MS is encouraging this behavior.

It's a long time before release to keep tamping this down.

 

[Krathoon]

This guy always amuses me, but he is kind of click baity.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I keep hoping that when this thread gets bumped, that its the announcement that this guy has been let go from the studio.

Hopefully soon.

In the current gaming industry, he's more likely to be promoted to studio head

 

[Krathoon]

I do believe that a large amount of game developers really do hate their audience and are more concerned with getting what they want out there.

It is an artist vs. the audience kind of thing.

 

[Mister Wolf]

I do believe that a large amount of game developers really do hate their audience and are more concerned with getting what they want out there.

It is an artist vs. the audience kind of thing.

That's why when they get too high off their own farts we have to check them by cutting the funding.

 

[mckmas8808]

the studio has his back. the official Twitter is blocking users, MS is encouraging this behavior.

Good MS should be blocking those people.

 

[Moriarty1889]

the studio has his back. the official Twitter is blocking users, MS is encouraging this behavior.

Sad but not surprised either. MS is as woke as they come.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

I do believe that a large amount of game developers really do hate their audience and are more concerned with getting what they want out there.

It is an artist vs. the audience kind of thing.

That’s exactly the case, because same developers do not go into games but into IT systems and earn 5x. All game devs see themselves as artists.

 

[twilo99]

What are we, as a GAF community, going to do if this M$/woke game doesn't suck?



I'm scared.

 

[RagnarokIV]

Sad but not surprised either. MS is as woke as they come.

Xbox's main image (they had a lot of variety with Kameo, Blue Dragon etc. but their main image) was that of a dudebro console with franchises and games that are manly and aimed at men, Gears Of War, Halo, COD. By going woke and not caring about that image they basically lost their identity.

My Series X is a great console, for playing Xbox/360 games with its wonderful backwards compatibility. Otherwise I'm playing on PC or my PS5 Pro.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

This guy always amuses me, but he is kind of click baity.

Recently subbed to him. Love how he says modern audience.

 

[Moriarty1889]

Xbox's main image (they had a lot of variety with Kameo, Blue Dragon etc. but their main image) was that of a dudebro console with franchises and games that are manly and aimed at men, Gears Of War, Halo, COD. By going woke and not caring about that image they basically lost their identity.

My Series X is a great console, for playing Xbox/360 games with its wonderful backwards compatibility. Otherwise I'm playing on PC or my PS5 Pro.

Agreed. The Xbox of today under Phil and Co. would never utter DUDEBRO as it would make them sexist. That’s how far they have fallen and how infected they have become. They are more content having woke shite games with female minority leads mostly and more focused on inclusivity than originality. Xbox of yesterday died and isnt coming back unless Phil and Sarah were given the boot and MS was open to actual open minded forward thinking individuals interested in going back to making great games with no political or activist crap in them. Hell will propably freeze over before that happens. Phil and Sarah and the rest of the lot are too busy making sure everyone’s pronouns are in their company bios. That shite matters more to them so they look good to the purple haired weirdos that have taken over the industry. That’s the Xbox of today.

 

[Buggy Loop]

What are we, as a GAF community, going to do if this M$/woke game doesn't suck?

 

[Plague Doctor]

Recently subbed to him. Love how he says modern audience.

But the youtuber is critical of a AAA company. Doesn't that make them a grifter?

We all know good faith decent youtubers eat the corporate slop and hype them up. If you raise any concern, total grifter.

They are mean to the most marginalized folks: Overpaid AAA devs bankrolled by billion dollar companies. That's like pushing over a person in a wheelchair.

 

[Boss Mog]

It looks like Xbox really hates its customers cause here another one of their devs:

The flags, the big glasses, yep looks about right...

 

[RagnarokIV]

It looks like Xbox really hates its customers cause here another one of their devs:

The flags, the big glasses, yep looks about right...

Xbox speed running out of existence.

 

[adamsapple]

It looks like Xbox really hates its customers cause here another one of their devs:

The flags, the big glasses, yep looks about right...

Indy's reception seems to have gotten people shook if they're resorting to scan half a year old tweets to drum up 'controversy'.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Good MS should be blocking those people.

 

[Barakov]

It looks like Xbox really hates its customers cause here another one of their devs:

The flags, the big glasses, yep looks about right...

You let these people go on long enough and they always have a mask off moment. Like I needed less of a reason to give MS money.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

What are we, as a GAF community, going to do if this M$/woke game doesn't suck?



I'm scared.

What is there to be scared of? I am mad at woke games BECAUSE they suck, not because they are woke. You can push any bullshit message you want as long as you make a great game we enjoy. Kojima basically put his own fetish into his games as he likes and we let him because he delivers on the gaming front.

At no point did we suggest that woke alone is the problem; the problem is that most devs who want woke elements are also incompetent. That they lost sight of the fact that they are making a product to sell.

it's like, if you work in a restaurant then you need to make sure your meals are actually edible. If you decided to make a dish that promoted political points that also happen to be made of sand and tile grout, then don't be surprised that no one wants to eat that garbage.

 

[RoboFu]

What is there to be scared of? I am mad at woke games BECAUSE they suck, not because they are woke. You can push any bullshit message you want as long as you make a great game we enjoy. Kojima basically put his own fetish into his games as he likes and we let him because he delivers on the gaming front.

At no point did we suggest that woke alone is the problem; the problem is that most devs who want woke elements are also incompetent. That they lost sight of the fact that they are making a product to sell.

it's like, if you work in a restaurant then you need to make sure your meals are actually edible. If you decided to make a dish that promoted political points that also happen to be made of sand and tile grout, then don't be surprised that no one wants to eat that garbage.

Kojima isn't influencing global policy..

Or is he??

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

Kojima isn't influencing global policy..

Or is he??

Whether he is joking or not, he literally told us he completely changed the theme of DeathStranding 2 because he didn't want to end up writing prophecy AGAIN.

 

[Moriarty1889]

It looks like Xbox really hates its customers cause here another one of their devs:

The flags, the big glasses, yep looks about right...

He looks like another angry little Soyboy so worried about trans and gay people not being accepted by everyone. These people are all nuts.

 

[Humdinger]

What is there to be scared of? I am mad at woke games BECAUSE they suck, not because they are woke. You can push any bullshit message you want as long as you make a great game we enjoy. Kojima basically put his own fetish into his games as he likes and we let him because he delivers on the gaming front.

At no point did we suggest that woke alone is the problem; the problem is that most devs who want woke elements are also incompetent. That they lost sight of the fact that they are making a product to sell.

it's like, if you work in a restaurant then you need to make sure your meals are actually edible. If you decided to make a dish that promoted political points that also happen to be made of sand and tile grout, then don't be surprised that no one wants to eat that garbage.

Agree but also disagree. Agree that woke games typically suck, and they suck because woke writers are usually inept, in part due to their crimped worldview. And that's usually the major offense - the fact that the game sucks.

But I disagree that "you can push any bullshit message you want" and I'll buy your game, as long as it's good otherwise. I won't. I won't "hate" on your game, but I will not buy it, because I don't want modern identity politics inserted into my games. I find it distasteful, immersion-breaking, and mildly aggravating. In addition, wokery isn't something I want to support with my money. So while I won't hate, I won't buy either. Kojima's fetishes are different than identity politics. Kojima's fetishes haven't had the disastrous consequences identity politics have.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

 

[Moriarty1889]

CEO is a coward.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

I have been listening to some DEI talks and podcasts....I'm like: "It was real, everything has been real" the uglification of women, the race swapping, making men pathetic and the push for LGBTQP+, etcetera...

I have even greater contempt for the media, game "journalists", and "personalities" that were supposed to inform consumers and provide context for industry events. Instead, they have resorted to labeling people as crazy, misinformed, conspiracy theorists, incels, Nazis, or being silent, either because they are that ignorant or completely spinless to push back against this cult.

 

[Kacho]

Chris Avellone watching SmashJT YouTube videos so he can shit on Obsidian

 

[GHG]

For anyone who doesn't want to watch the video:

 

[mrqs]

This will all blow over when the game releases and its 85-90 on metacritic. No one will care a few weeks after that.

 

[GHG]

This will all blow over when the game releases and its 85-90 on metacritic. No one will care a few weeks after that.

Or so you (and Microsoft/Obsidian) hope.

 

[IAmRei]

This will all blow over when the game releases and its 85-90 on metacritic. No one will care a few weeks after that.

Did you saw recent game sales performances? People had enough with DEI, and this anti consumer behaviors are already known by lot of potential customers.

Beside, the release date, is near MH Wild. That game alone can erase many games news.

 

[Kacho]

For anyone who doesn't want to watch the video:

It's a studio full of REEtarders lol

I am now actively rooting for this game to fail.

 

[Heisenberg007]

This will all blow over when the game releases and its 85-90 on metacritic. No one will care a few weeks after that.

Sure, may happen. And if turns out that the game is extremely mediocre and scores a yellow Metacritic and is forgotten in ~2 weeks (just like Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024), a certain group will cry about things like "Xbox tax" and "incels' victory" or whatnot.

 

[Heisenberg007]

For anyone who doesn't want to watch the video:

Well, there it is. Here's the answer.

"It is only pronouns."
"It is only one guy."

DenchDeckard - you were wondering why this guy hasn't been fired yet. I bet he won't be fired. Their entire studio is like this. How many will they fire.

 

[EviLore]

For anyone who doesn't want to watch the video:

Is Digimancy his pronoun?

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

It's a studio full of REEtarders lol

I am now actively rooting for this game to fail.

Irvine, California .. yes it will be loaded full of them

 

[Clintizzle]

Good devs: "Hello we make games"
American devs: "Hello im gay and my child is trans"

 

[LectureMaster]

For anyone who doesn't want to watch the video:

I don't get it, when "incels" call themselves a W, it was either a woke propagation failed, or a retarded journal site ate crows, or both.

When these jokers call a W, like literally nothing happened? Musk wasn't even mad, he was just driving by reposting, and none of those would help pushing their woke agenda. Why/what were they celebrating for? Those folks truly needs professional help.

 

[EviLore]

I don't get it, when "incels" call themselves a W, it was either a woke propagation failed, or a retarded journal site ate crows, or both.

When these jokers call a W, like literally nothing happened? Musk wasn't even mad, he was just driving by reposting, and none of those would help pushing their woke agenda. Why/what were they celebrating for? Those folks truly needs professional help.

They're making fun of Elon for obsessing over pronouns, while they literally have pronoun declarations as part of their usernames, in all caps, attached to every message. I don't think self-awareness is their strong suit.

 

[Heisenberg007]

When these jokers call a W, like literally nothing happened? Why/what were they celebrating for?

They are celebrating this because they know this is the most they'll get to celebrate. It's not like they will be able to celebrate Avowed selling 20 million copies

 

[Derp]

For anyone who doesn't want to watch the video:

Man... I feel bad for any of the devs there that just wanted to making a fucking good game.

 

[Elginer]

For anyone who doesn't want to watch the video:

These people are really in their own damn world. It's crazy to see. I've enver seen such a group of people high on their own bullshit superiority complexes.

 

[EviLore]

Man... I feel bad for any of the devs there that just wanted to making a fucking good game.

Yes. Good professional teams understand boundaries and focus on the work and non-partisan topics. A good team leader knows that people will have different personal and political viewpoints and something like this taking over the internal culture will alienate a lot of the employees, especially engineers in this instance.

 

[LectureMaster]

Yes. Good professional teams understand boundaries and focus on the work and non-partisan topics. A good team leader knows that people will have different personal and political viewpoints and something like this taking over the internal culture will alienate a lot of the employees, especially engineers in this instance.

I mean when I saw this ten years ago I truly admired Ubi for the inclusivity. Now when I look back retrospectively, I finally realized no, that was the beginning of the taking ESG money.

 

[Bernardougf]

Man... I feel bad for any of the devs there that just wanted to making a fucking good game.

I really couldn't imagine myself working on this environment.... so I have to question how many devs working there really dosent support this kind of behavior ... If I had to guess I would say very few sane people could endure this craziness on a daily basis. I trully dont believe that this woke companys are just a few purple hair people and a bunch of normies as some want to suggest ...

When you start to see pronouns and woke shit in your games, higher position devs battling Musk on twitter and being openly racist without any consequences ... it tells you exactly how the culture of the studio is and probably how the overwhelming majority of people working there think.

 

[LectureMaster]

They're making fun of Elon for obsessing over pronouns, while they literally have pronoun declarations as part of their usernames, in all caps, attached to every message. I don't think self-awareness is their strong suit.

They are celebrating this because they know this is the most they'll get to celebrate. It's not like they will be able to celebrate Avowed selling 20 million copies