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Babysitter who had sex with 11-year-old boy gets suspended sentence
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Hidden One
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Vulcano's assistant
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Then people will complain that it's bizarre or unrealistic
The funny thing about the idea of existing MRAs championing this issue is that it would require acknowledgment of the patriarchy in order to do so. That is the generational conditioning of gender roles and values directly responsible for the pigeon holding this boy found himself in. It hurts men as well as women and is paradoxically subtle and overt. Luckily we have a movement that deals with the highlighting and edification of this ever present hydra, we call it feminism. It's the tide that lifts all dinghies.
Until MRAs drop their beef with the F word and their willful and spiteful ignorance of it's concepts they have nothing of value to add to subjects like this and that's actually sad.
Until MRAs drop their beef with the F word and their willful and spiteful ignorance of it's concepts they have nothing of value to add to subjects like this and that's actually sad.
A Link to the Past
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It's as simple as dismissing all of that with "no it just means that feminism is destroying young boys" or some shit like that.
That said, doesn't statutory rape basically mean that having sexual intercourse with a willing child is no different than if unwilling (aside from there also being more advanced charges of sexual assault)? And that's if the kid was actually down for it. If we take him at his word - and to be frank I literally have no idea why he would lie if he actually enjoyed it, especially when his dad clearly wasn't pushing him to lie - you can't even entertain the idea of willingness.
half a moon
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Was my dream at 11
Yeah, that was the part that got me too, that is quite the mental gymnastics there to justify the crime, I mean, jeeeez.
Probably in your ideal mind as a kid going through puberty. Trust me when I say the kind of creeps who really want to have sex with you when you're eleven aren't the kinds of people anyone wants to have sex with.
SkeptiMism
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What? No, he very likely won't be fine by all this just like that. Seriously.
There are multiple guys here on gaf (there was a thread on it) who experienced things like this when they were kids/teenagers. Some even sort of willing back then (and this boy wasn't even willing for it jesus), but still having traumas of it later on. Hell, there's one person in this thread who talked about it.
He was way too young for it and even he were willing to do it in some way, it's very likely it would still leave traumas for life.
It's one thing to dream of it when you're a stupid kid (no offense with the stupid but with it I mean that you didn't actually know anything of these things) and actually having to experience it.
PastorOfMuppets
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R of the Judges sentence:
You're a woman so you're free to go.
R of the Judges sentence:You're a woman so you're free to go.
Do you have a link to that thread? I'd kind of like to see if the stuff that happened to me has any similarity to what other users here have experienced.
I came in here expecting it to be America but, damm, it's the UK. How the fuck does this even fly? If it was a 21-year old guy fucking an 11-year old girl, he'd be in prison for at least five years. So how the fuck does that cunt only get a suspended sentence? Ridiculous. This is just further proof that our justice system is seriously flawed.
Thank you.
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This lady needs to be in prison for life, I feel bad for the 11 year old.
This lady needs to be in prison for life, I feel bad for the 11 year old.
A Link to the Past
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As has been said, victims of CSA get a bad deal on both sides of the gender spectrum.
The age of consent isn't 21, it's 16.
Miles Quaritch
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Well that's a completely fucked up story to wake up to...
Of course not. We all know man want to have sex all the time no matter the age.
Sorry if I sound bitter. Just personal experience
Well, the first page really hit me. Both the experiences and responses. Feeling kind of upset now. Seeing some people thinking arousal = consent really hurts a lot.
Miles Quaritch
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I wonder why this is?
Because people think if the boy wasn't into it, he wouldn't be able to perform? Do people see an erection as consent in cases like this?
Weird as fuck story...the dad saying his son is sex mad is just. How are child services not involved at this point...
Well, I suppose that makes it alright then. It doesn't matter if the AOC is 16 or 21, the boy was 11. The judge saying he was mentally mature is bull, and the father saying the boy was 'sex mad' is just crazy. The babysitter, the father and the judge should all be investigated.
Maybe I'm misinterpreting your post, but it just sounded to me like you were almost justifying what she did. Y'know, its alright, he's closer to 16 than he is 21, so its fine. That sorta thing.
FortuneFaded
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How mature can a 11 year-old really be?
BeatnikGunsoo
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yeah my cousin is 11 (also half black so he gets half of our aging up powers) and I was hanging out with him yesterday, all he cared about was watching dragon ball on my phone and me subbing to his youtube channel.
I'm pretty damn sure this kid was getting pestered to death by his babysitter. Then after awhile he was like fuck it, I can't take the stress so i'll do it
yeah sucks for the kid
sucky dad
sucky judge
sucky babysitter
reverse the genders and yeah, well, you know
I'm pretty damn sure this kid was getting pestered to death by his babysitter. Then after awhile he was like fuck it, I can't take the stress so i'll do it
yeah sucks for the kid
sucky dad
sucky judge
sucky babysitter
reverse the genders and yeah, well, you know
Shuggananas
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yay double standards
geez
geez
zeopower6
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IIRC, didn't the girl lie about her age and find the guy on a dating site? The situations are veeerrrryy different.
Northeastmonk
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I guess I speak from my first sexual experience when I was 15. Even before then I had seen naked women. I can't necessarily go back in time, but puberty was like an exploration and the actual act didn't necessarily feel like it did later on. Later on it felt more understood. Being 15 it was like copy and do what you knew already.
I guess it's hard thinking about this when I felt like my experiences with sex were voyuer in a way. Sneaking around to get a closer look. There weren't really any real females to even consider it with.
I remember listening to KoRn and hearing about Jonathan Davis and a female family friend who molested him. I know at such a young age, gender doesn't matter. It's how it's perceived and it's confusing if you aren't old enough to know what it is and what it feels like once it begins.
Edit: I started to have a big sexual relationship at 17/18. Sex nonstop. It was explorative and even at 16 I was receiving oral sex. It felt normal because the girls were experienced. It was something they controlled and I wanted. Now at 15 I met a girl from the high school I was about to attend. We met up, went to her house, didn't know much about sex except porn. We watched some porn and did what we thought was sex. It felt odd at first and I can't imagine for the life of me having a dominant figure like a women is at 21 do that kinda stuff. I see your point, but I've also had more than 10 partners and some felt incredibly cheap from those days of being young. It's hard going back to that time and maybe when I'm married it will. Someday.
The main difference is that the guy in the other case was not actively seeking out sex with a minor. His sexual partner lied about her age. That's a massive difference. This woman knew the boy was 11. She actively pursued sexual intercourse with a minor.
Shuggananas
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Cause the girl pretended she was of legal age and even after the mom said it was cool ?
Drilbit777
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What in the actual fuck?...
andthebeatgoeson
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How immature can a 20 year old be?
ClosingADoor
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If you're 20 and feel the need to have sex with an 11 year old, you not only need to do some time but there is something seriously wrong in your head and the judge should have sentenced some mandatory therapy on top of it.
Funky Papa
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Gross at so many different levels.
And this...
Sounds like worth looking into. The father's reaction is beyond reason.
And this...
Sounds like worth looking into. The father's reaction is beyond reason.
This is messed up. Having had this happen to me (the girl was 16 and me 11) I kind of know how messed up the boy could be and will well be later in life. Not recieving any support from his dad is disgusting. We have a huge problem in the UK of judges doing their own thing and forgetting about the law. As posted earlier in this thread about the 11yr old girl and 20yr old guy, the judge saying the 11yr old basically started it. It's fucked up in so many ways.
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