My sarcastic statement was a statement about the bible as viewed through the eyes of a biggot, not a serious critical examination about what readers of the bible take away from it. You're putting words in my mouth.
Bakery in gay wedding cake case sends anti-gay movie to LGBTQ groups
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My sarcastic statement was a statement about the bible as viewed through the eyes of a biggot, not a serious critical examination about what readers of the bible take away from it. You're putting words in my mouth.
Leithkorias
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Ok. This must be the first time sometimes been accused of putting words in someone's mouth, when they're the exact words that were used. But ok. I see your point.
My impression was that it was your personal viewpoint. Which I wanted to point out was wrong. My mistake. There's so much bible hate that it's hard to tell when someone's being satirical.
These are all nice! The NT has some neat stuff in it. But I don't think it's hard to figure out why gay folks might not feel like the Bible and Christians are big fans of theirs. Even aside from having a fundamental aspect of you declared "sinful," "love the sinner hate the sin" is easy to say and almost impossible to live up to. Human minds just aren't wired that way.
Why would they? They got a ton of money from a gofundme from fellow bigots
boiled goose
good with gravy
The couple sued for damages because they were outed by the bakery and then harassEd snd threatened. (Not 100 percent sure)
Yes it does.
Exodus 22 18. You must not allow a sorceress to live.
Leviticus 20 13
If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Deuteronomy 17
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
If we wanna get technical here, those are all in the old testament which arent supposed to be followed by Christians.....But of course many do because it can help back up their bigoted views.
Leithkorias
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What title, though?
XANDER CAGE
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movie's pretty great so far
Messofanego
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Separate thread for "Audacity" impressions? lol
It's not like the New Testmanet is free from that too:
In other words, homosexuality is the result of people abandoning God. They sin deliberately just to disobey him. And God's penalty for "those who do these things" is death.
I definitely need to watch it just for that scene.
astroturfing
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probably totally out of context.. if God wanted gays to be punished with death, wouldn't a lot or at least some Christian countries punish gays with death? why wouldn't they if it's the word of God?
Nope. You can read the whole letter if you want. The quoted fragment is from the very beginning (the first chapter).
And yes, I'm sure many years ago Christian countries did punish gays with death (there are Christians that would still love to do it). Then they became more civilized and only put gays to jail for the act of sodomy (guess where they get the idea that it should be illegal?). Nowadays there are only 10 countries where homosexuality is punishable by death, but all of them are Islamic countries.
Prototype Viktor
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the figure is a deterrent like all high fines
That particular scripture says God will deal with the evil ones, and who says they wouldn't if they could legally? I'm sure the duck dynasty dude would.
Also Paul, who wrote that, is a former killer of Christians, so when he converts he has real hard line stances about Christianity that Jesus never touched. So depending on which passages you choose, you could have completely different stances on these issues.
LOL. Nice try.
and Christian countries did execute gay people, mate. The last person in France to be burned at the fucking stake for it was in the 18th century if i recall correctly. It was only when the enlightenment arrived and the napoleonic code was introduced that it was decriminalised in some European countries.
And of course, in some Christian countries it might as well still be criminalised.
His hope and optimism, gone
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh man, the salt continues and remains delicious.
TestOfTide
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Someone should have a banker buy a cake from these assholes, then proceed to ask them their views on Christ's teachings regarding Usury.
How are the bakery's actions here not blatant harassment? Sending hateful videotapes...
How are the bakery's actions here not blatant harassment? Sending hateful videotapes...
boiled goose
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There is actual ambiguity about whether they should or shouldn't be. They fell out of style but there is no solid scriptural basis for saying they don't apply.
If we can throw out old Testament then no ten commandments either? No Genesis? No daVID? No Abraham?
God changed his mind? Same God no? Was it ever OK? The bible is not the word of god? If it isn't, what's the mechanism for choosing which parts to follow?
Are you serious? It is explicitly clear.
Why dont they now? Because they've been dragged kicking and screaming to Modern society. They used to burn witches, kill gays, etc in a not so distant past.
Why dont they anymore? ASK them. My guess is they realize it's gross nonsense but rationalize anyways
FO-totality
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John Kowalski
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omg lesbians
Oh god lol, Ray Comfort is the "a banana is an atheist's worst nightmare" guy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4yBvvGi_2A
Edit:
Yes. xD
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4yBvvGi_2A
Edit:
Yes. xD
You Know Nothing
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Please be satire. I don't want to live in a world where people believe shit like this.
He claimed that it was supposed to be tongue in cheek many years after the fact, but I somehow doubt that.
Lactose_Intolerant
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So this is just a pr move by the director. Plus it keeps the cake company in the news so their supporters still help them out and don't forget about them.
Dreams-Visions
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Yep, all of this stuff.
Astral Dog
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is the movie some kind of parody?
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Damn amusing especially since the Banana in question exists thanks to humans selectively breeding them. The shitty banana god provided would not be a very good example.
Here is the Banana god supposedly made, he sure sucks at his job;
http://i.imgur.com/AUTukLD.jpg
Monocle
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When you put it that way, I realize it's actually my fault for choosing not to accept God's love by doing gay stuff! Wow, I've been such a jerk to God, who is a cool guy.
Have you made it to the part where the dude just starts randomly reading the Bible mid conversation on his iPad? (about 6:30) I burst out laughing.
Why is it these wacky Christian movies are always so poorly made? Even the bigger budget ones have terribad production values.
Sutton Dagger
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Astral Dog
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Aww, the girl broke up with her partner for a second chance to save herself from hell
edit: damn at behind the scenes, homosexuals are a very difficult issue for the "average christian"
edit: damn at behind the scenes, homosexuals are a very difficult issue for the "average christian"
Angelus Errare
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There are several places in Africa in which being gay is punishable by death actually.
The reason why it's not legal in America is because the federal government, civil rights and the law trump an out dated nonsensical old book.
tbh I don't know how you can go through life not knowing this.
Angelus Errare
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Well to fundamentalists they call it persecution.
And many of those laws in Africa were pushed by fundamentalist Christians form the US going over and campaigning for them.
Angelus Errare
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Indeed.
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