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Bank of Canada: "Nominate an iconic woman to appear on a new bank note."

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Sean C

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As mentioned one of the suffragettes has a lot of baggage.
So do all of the men on our currency:

- Macdonald: Metis/Indian issues, Pacific Scandal, Chinese head tax, etc.
- Laurier: Indian issues, Chinese head tax, etc.
- Borden: 1917 Conscription Crisis and electoral manipulation, Ukrainian internment, etc.
- King: Japanese interment

That doesn't mean they don't deserve to be there. They had a much more significant impact than Desmond or Secord (unless the Battle of Beaver Dams was an unknown turning point in the war). I'm not sure how you'd quantify Montgomery's contribution, though I guess you could say she's singlehandedly responsible for perhaps 25% of PEI's annual GDP).
 

lupinko

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So do all of the men on our currency:

- Macdonald: Metis/Indian issues, Pacific Scandal, Chinese head tax, etc.
- Laurier: Indian issues, Chinese head tax, etc.
- Borden: 1917 Conscription Crisis and electoral manipulation, Ukrainian internment, etc.
- King: Japanese interment

That doesn't mean they don't deserve to be there. They had a much more significant impact than Desmond or Secord (unless the Battle of Beaver Dams was an unknown turning point in the war). I'm not sure how you'd quantify Montgomery's contribution, though I guess you could say she's singlehandedly responsible for perhaps 25% of PEI's annual GDP).

You got a point there, I guess the recent trends of super PC in the social landscape affected my choices there. The famous five's contributions outweigh their skeletons weight which is why they were already on the previous $50.

Well for Montgomery it's about literature and the arts, she is one of the most renowned Canadians all over the world and people back home just shrug when you ask about Anne Shirley and they think the girl from Wendy's.

Look I'm no superfan of her work or anything but since moving overseas, I've gained greater appreciation of her work and have seen the reach her stories have. Also other countries put people of the arts or non politicians and heads of state on their currency, so why don't we? Also as you said, she put PEI on the map.

Desmond's story should be more well known considering it was part of the civil rights movement that most Canadians don't know about and always look at their surroundings with rose tinted glasses.

I have better choices but they are all currently living.
 

Walpurgis

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Wow. I can't think of anyone. I would nominate Elizabeth May but she's still alive (thankfully). I think an exception needs to be made though. :p
It's only been 23 years.
Underrated post.
The only problem I have with Laura Secord is that she's too closely associated now with a privately held company which bears her name.

For maximum troll value it should be a woman of Asian heritage from the sciences field.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/asian-looking-woman-scientist-image-rejected-for-100-bills-1.1183360
Unbelievable, especially that neutral ethnicity trash.
The bank immediately ordered the image redrawn, imposing what a spokesman called a "neutral ethnicity" for the woman scientist who, now stripped of her "Asian" features, appears on the circulating note. Her light features appear to be Caucasian.
Neutral ethnicity is an astronaut with a helmet on not a white person.

The Toronto groups were positive about the image of an Asian woman because "it is seen to represent diversity or multiculturalism."

In Quebec, however, "the inclusion of an Asian without representing any other ethnicities was seen to be contentious."

One person in Fredericton commented: "The person on it appears to be of Asian descent which doesn't rep(resent) Canada. It is fairly ugly."
It is quite sad to see this sort of ignorance in Canada. I think they need some immigrants/refugees to broaden their horizons.
Thérèse Casgrain would be a great choice.
I just skimmed her page and this would be a fantastic choice. I've never heard of her before but she sounds like a great person by today's standards, which is a rare find in that era.
They should definitely go with a woman of colour. A First Nations woman or maybe an Asian-Canadian woman on a bank note would be pretty great.
Definitely but I can't think of any. :< Ideally, it would be an Aboriginal woman and it would be fitting with the current situation in the country.
Nellie McClung probably could make it also, though I hope she doesn't. John A. MacDonald was a massive racist, so her advocacy for the sterilization of mentally ill/disabled people wouldn't exactly disqualify her either. The past isn't pretty.
Those shameful men need to be removed. They should not be glorified or looked back on fondly. We should learn from them but not praise or admire them.
Regardless, pretty cool, and I'm kind of ashamed as a Canadian to not really be able to think of any worthy candidates.
I know, it's terrible. D:

I think it is going into circulation as a new bill. The only commemorative one that I can remember are those Vancouver Olympic ones.
This reminds me, is there any documentary about native Canadians or First Nations people? Like equivalent of Sacagewea kind of stuff?
I watched this short Vice documentary recently and it was really eye opening as someone who lives in this city. Warriors Off The Res: Aboriginal Gangs in Winnipeg It's probably not what you had in mind but this is basically the life of many Aboriginal people today.
Buffy Sainte-Marie?
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I've never heard of her but I just skimmed her Wiki because of your post and god damn is it long. She seems like she would be a good candidate if she were dead. :p
So do all of the men on our currency:

- Macdonald: Metis/Indian issues, Pacific Scandal, Chinese head tax, etc.
- Laurier: Indian issues, Chinese head tax, etc.
- Borden: 1917 Conscription Crisis and electoral manipulation, Ukrainian internment, etc.
- King: Japanese interment

That doesn't mean they don't deserve to be there. They had a much more significant impact than Desmond or Secord (unless the Battle of Beaver Dams was an unknown turning point in the war). I'm not sure how you'd quantify Montgomery's contribution, though I guess you could say she's singlehandedly responsible for perhaps 25% of PEI's annual GDP).
I don't think they should be on our bank notes because they do not represent our values. They are criminals and should be treated as such. I'm not saying to forget them, just to not look at the past with rose-tinted glasses. These aren't men you'd want to be around.
 

Oppo

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Wow. I can't think of anyone. I would nominate Elizabeth May but she's still alive (thankfully). I think an exception needs to be made though. :p
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good god. i recoil in horror at the mere thought. shes terrible. im sad anyone but May thinks this way about her.
 

Dice//

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Shame for the "must be dead" part; women's coming up in society is....unfortunately still "quite new" to elect that many effective or game-changing women to consider putting on the currency. Not that there aren't, just clearly it's more of a boys club.
 

Oppo

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Haters gonna hate.

i will indeed hate on her. but for many good reasons. seriously, what a terrivle suggestion. shes not even in the running.

i mean the MRA stance the Greens have taken alone disqualifies her as a viable female considerstion, beyond the alive clause, and her crap record as a politician.
 

Kurdel

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So do all of the men on our currency:

- Macdonald: Metis/Indian issues, Pacific Scandal, Chinese head tax, etc.
- Laurier: Indian issues, Chinese head tax, etc.
- Borden: 1917 Conscription Crisis and electoral manipulation, Ukrainian internment, etc.
- King: Japanese interment.

Considering our messy history, I think we would be better off doing money featuring natural scenery. One for each general region of Canada, so everyone can identify.

-Maritimes scene
-Saint-Laurence/Lakes scene
-Plains scene
-Rockies scene
-Northern Territories scene
 

Walpurgis

Banned
i will indeed hate on her. but for many good reasons. seriously, what a terrivle suggestion. shes not even in the running.

i mean the MRA stance the Greens have taken alone disqualifies her as a viable female considerstion, beyond the alive clause, and her crap record as a politician.

What MRA stance?
 

Sean C

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They are criminals and should be treated as such.
Um, no, not at all. They're all hugely significant and generally progressive figures in Canadian history. Macdonald was the main architect of Canada as we know it; Laurier its most eloquent speaker for a single identity, and who oversaw the settling of the west; Borden made huge contributions to Canadian independence from Britain (ironically, since he was elected on a pro-empire ticket); King, same as Borden, plus leadership in Depression and World War II, and the early outlines of the welfare state.
 

CazTGG

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I feel the obvious answer is to nominate "one of the Famous Five" (which of them i'm not sure I could say definitively since all of them share troubling views on race, eugenics, etc.) but I can't help but feel this should be a starting point, as in, it would be better to have a more diverse group of people represented on our bills if they're going to change/add a new one in the future since as of now, the best representation we have for any visible minority is the Queen Elizabeth II...who isn't Canadian. This should be more of a starting point for Canada in terms of representing who we are as a nation in terms of the diversity many pride themselves on (in spite of Canada's hostile history i.e. Komagatu Maru, Head tax and immigration laws pre-1960s, treatment of blacks as cheap labour, etc.)

Then again, i'm of the mind that we should get rid of Elizabeth off the 20 in favor of Tecumseh (look him up) to make up for that puny little plaque he got so I might not be the best person to discuss this matter.

Seriously though, she has the quarter. Give the 20 to someone else!

EDIT: Potential (personal) nominations:
-Jennie K. Trout (First woman in Canada to become a doctor which was huge at the time)
-Viola Desmond (Canadian Civil Rights activist, challenged unwritten racial segregation in Canadian society)
 

CazTGG

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Personally I think it should be a woman or a minority male, but that might be controversial in itself.

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Yeah it's no longer 2015 but the point stands: Having greater representation of minorities in general really shouldn't be controversial in this day and age.
 

Mr.Mike

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PET should be on there, but Justin couldn't really put him on there.

To be honest I can't really think of any woman to put on there. It ought to be a politician though, right? I think everyone on there right now was.
 

Walpurgis

Banned
Google it. fall of last year.

http://www.canadianprogressiveworld...-platform-criticized-for-being-anti-feminist/

she's an opportunist. and bad at her job. pretty sure she was sniffing around for a senate seat. also very dodgy in pro choice. anyways there are much much better ideas in this thread than her.

Wow. I followed the election pretty closely and even remember her getting shut out of that debate they mentioned. I did not see this though. It reads incredibly bizarre for something on a party platform and at the same time, seems very unlike the Elizabeth May that I have seen and the Green party that I know. I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt on that and consider the possibility that someone else wrote it without her seeing it or something. The Green party is at the very bottom of all the mainstream parties in terms of support/money so I can understand if their platform/site is not well maintained.
 

jstripes

Banned
Did you miss that Cyril Sneer stepped down as Prime Minister last fall?

The difference between Cyril Sneer and the former PM is that Cyril had his Grinch "heart grew three sizes" moment.


Also, if we're throwing out the requirement that banknotes depict a Prime Minister, that's great all around. There's plenty of notable Canadians.
 
Details like the denomination, security features, the number of commemorative notes that will circulate, and the means to obtain them will be announced as the project progresses. Stay tuned for updates.

I need to know if we're talking about a fiver or a c-note before making nominations.
 
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