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Batman [Mafia] |OT| The mafia game Gafia deserves , but not the one it needs
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weemadarthur
Member
Oh, I just want to mention - when We were like five minutes before the end of the day, and people started to role claim, the thread went unresponsive. If you're going to role claim to save yourself, you need to leave enough time for people to change their votes even in the event of glitches. Five minutes won't do it.
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Kark, I may need you to take a leap of faith with me at the end of this day phase. Will you be able to do it?
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
Not at all, but it may require a bit of trust. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it might.
Well, probably won't happen next time as it is 2:30am and I'm going to bed now.
Nice evening to you all, ladies and gentleman!Xamtheking
Member
I didn't like flux yesterday
My feelings have not changed
What made you vote Topo yesterday?
Xamtheking
Member
Deathly afraid of a tie
Also, look at the post when I voted for him, I said I was sorry
The tie had already been broken by Mazre though.
Xamtheking
Member
7-4 is a lot harder to tie than 6-5
Also, I did switch back to flux
Xamtheking
Member
Flux most certainly
I had El Topo on my town list
How strongly did you town read him and why?
It doesn't sound very strong when you also voted for him. Wouldn't a vote on someone else (like Mazre who voted Kark to break the tie) or standing strong have been a better option?
Why were you so afraid of a tie?
So afraid that you were willing to sacrifice someone you read as town to avoid it?
Walk me through your logic there.
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Please don't say this, at least pretend you had a purpose and didn't pull some bullshit capricious override that robbed us from valuable reads and allowed Flux to play like he's playing today for next to no reason. I really don't see how your override made any sense (and I read your post, it's hard for me to see how even if you had such a powerful town read on Flux that you had to save him, RNG'ing the lynch was a good idea at all), so please let me dream that you do.
Xamtheking
Member
Like I said, I really didn't want a tie to happen
And my town read was minor, nothing earth shattering
Kark got me all in a tizzy
For those curious about the votes:
Mazre voted Flux after the first tie had been broken, voted Kark to break his second tier and went back Flux at the very end.
Flux-Kark-Flux
Xam started at Flux, voted Topo after the second tie had been broken and then back to Flux after Topo's claim
Flux-Topo-Flux
Pop and Flame both started on Topo and voted Flux after Topo's claim. Flame first voted Kark after Topo's claim, but jumped to Flux just after that.
Fire voted Flux to break Kark's first tie and stayed there.
Topo-(Kark)-Flux
Flux selfvoted after Topo's claim and unvoted just after Kark tied again.
Flux-unvote
Topo voted for Flux some time after his claim.
-Flux
Camjo voted Topo after his claim.
-Topo
TheGoddamn, Karu and Coppa all voted on someone else this whole time.
Ty4on, Sorian and TL21xx stayed on Flux this whole time.
Wee, SkyOdin and Trigger stayed on Topo this whole time.
Mazre voted Flux after the first tie had been broken, voted Kark to break his second tier and went back Flux at the very end.
Flux-Kark-Flux
Xam started at Flux, voted Topo after the second tie had been broken and then back to Flux after Topo's claim
Flux-Topo-Flux
Pop and Flame both started on Topo and voted Flux after Topo's claim. Flame first voted Kark after Topo's claim, but jumped to Flux just after that.
Fire voted Flux to break Kark's first tie and stayed there.
Topo-(Kark)-Flux
Flux selfvoted after Topo's claim and unvoted just after Kark tied again.
Flux-unvote
Topo voted for Flux some time after his claim.
-Flux
Camjo voted Topo after his claim.
-Topo
TheGoddamn, Karu and Coppa all voted on someone else this whole time.
Ty4on, Sorian and TL21xx stayed on Flux this whole time.
Wee, SkyOdin and Trigger stayed on Topo this whole time.
Xamtheking
Member
I was afraid scum would be able to heavily benefit off of a tie specifically because I think Flux is scum. If I didn't think one of the two were scum I would not have cared nearly as much as I did
TL
R I thought scum would come out ahead because of a tieI know this isn't to me but I would have sacrificed someone I was town reading in that situation. A tie only hinders reads and a day 1 town read means shit all.
D1 town reads can be OK. I was pretty certain Flame was town.
Xamtheking
Member
I was scared, fam, like I said
Any read can be good, risking a tie isn't worth that though. Xam shouldn't have moved votes in this situation though. Flux was at disadvantage, not Topo, Xam muddied it more for no reason.
So you switched to Topo because you were soooo sure Flux is scum...? And if you were right then you'd be on the record voting for Topo instead of someone who was scum? K.I was afraid scum would be able to heavily benefit off of a tie specifically because I think Flux is scum. If I didn't think one of the two were scum I would not have cared nearly as much as I did
TL
I am well aware of why an ordinary day lynch is better than a no lynch
I wasn't asking because of a gap in knowledge.weemadarthur
Member
Did Mazre want to explain his Day 1 choices yet?
Xamtheking
Member
A death provides information, which I think is essential on D1, since I think it sometimes sets the tone for the rest of the game.So you switched to Topo because you were soooo sure Flux is scum...? And if you were right then you'd be on the record voting for Topo instead of someone who was scum? K.
I am well aware of why an ordinary day lynch is better than a no lynch
No override probably would have been better.
OK, I get it. The override was a bad move. BUT YA CAN'T WIN IF YA DON'T PLAY!!
Anyway, I am working on the assumption that Flux is town for now. Yeah, he's being a weirdo, but that seems to be a recurring theme. I can't imagine a scum team would be letting him run wild like he has been. And if he's mafia, he's clearly not especially powerful since nobody was speaking up to defend him yesterday or today. Let's move on to finding one of the real bad guys.
I was wary of El Topo's claim yesterday and it feels even lamer today. A one-shot mafia chat bomb that only lasts for one day/night phase? And he chooses to use it during the day? It's a pretty weak power all told, which makes it even weirder that he felt it was huge enough to prompt a last-minute scramble at the end of the day by outing but not fully revealing his role. That's basically saying "Vote the other guy, doc on me!" for a power that he not only can't prove the next day to provide us with a clear, but will also ultimately affect little in the game anyhow.
Anyway, I am working on the assumption that Flux is town for now. Yeah, he's being a weirdo, but that seems to be a recurring theme. I can't imagine a scum team would be letting him run wild like he has been. And if he's mafia, he's clearly not especially powerful since nobody was speaking up to defend him yesterday or today. Let's move on to finding one of the real bad guys.
I was wary of El Topo's claim yesterday and it feels even lamer today. A one-shot mafia chat bomb that only lasts for one day/night phase? And he chooses to use it during the day? It's a pretty weak power all told, which makes it even weirder that he felt it was huge enough to prompt a last-minute scramble at the end of the day by outing but not fully revealing his role. That's basically saying "Vote the other guy, doc on me!" for a power that he not only can't prove the next day to provide us with a clear, but will also ultimately affect little in the game anyhow.
Because you seem to take issue with when it was used: When would you have used that power? He was an outed PR, he probably figured he would die over night and wanted to make sure it got used.
Xamtheking
Member
I have an idea
Why don't we push someone (I vote flux) especially hard for the next 24 hours or so. If the person is scum and el topo wasnt lying, they might crack like an egg because they might have gotten used to having a team to fall back on
Why don't we push someone (I vote flux) especially hard for the next 24 hours or so. If the person is scum and el topo wasnt lying, they might crack like an egg because they might have gotten used to having a team to fall back on
I think scum team is in a constant state of shaking their head with Flux.
As for Topo, I do still believe he is either Oracle or scum with a fake role and not the timid vanilla townie that Flux was trying to convince us of. I do have an issue with Topo's claim and I'm waiting for him to actually come back and answer my question.
I vote Karu only because slight pressure was already working wonders, Flux is already too far gone.
weemadarthur
Member
This might be the first useful statement you've posted for the whole game
Xamtheking
Member
weemadarthur
Member
Karkador.
Sorry peeps.
Your batcomputer gave a result of four bolded names. One of those names is now dead and verified as a town member. Does the batcomputer have anything to say regarding the other three bolded names?
Sorry peeps.
Your batcomputer gave a result of four bolded names. One of those names is now dead and verified as a town member. Does the batcomputer have anything to say regarding the other three bolded names?
weemadarthur
Member
I'm here for all your backhanded compliment needs.
Xamtheking
Member
I think the batcomputer is just kark's subconscious as a physical form
I didn't do anything weird on Day 1. It seems like whatever I do, I'll get ganged up on, even when I'm trying to take the game seriously so... I guess the best move is to do nothing?
Ah well.
weemadarthur
Member
Interesting. What are the Alfred and Robin he keeps talking to?
This "woe is me" shit is really old already. You make it sound like you played the most pro town game every played on day 1 and the big bad meanies are ganing up on you.
Xamtheking
Member
The voices in his head
weemadarthur
Member
Oh that's normal. I will only worry about the computer then.
Dude, relax a bit. I don't want anyone to feel sorry for me. I'm not saying that I played the most pro town game on Day 1, either.
Were you working off the assumption that claiming mafia and antagonizing everyone was the best move just now to reflect you were taking the game seriously? Cuz that seems weird.
Pressuring Karu sounds good. I agree, if the scum team is fractured then we should absolutely press harder today, specially when it comes to potentially noob scum who might be lost without their support team.