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Ben Affleck's Batman Future in Doubt as Warner Bros. Plots Franchise
- Thread starter ryan299
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hell no
Lilalaunebaer
Member
More cinematic universe than all other cinematic universes.
One Robins dead.
Evil Batman.
crackhead_bob
Member
This reboot mean they're going to pave over Man of Steel and Batman V Superman? How would they actually do this, since they're keeping Gal Gadot?
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Shame..hope things workout for him in his personal life.
MugiwaraCole
Member
I don't want a completely new to the job Batman, but he doesn't need to have been Batman for 20+ years either. A Bruce in his early/mid 30's would've been fine while covering the same plot points. Even before he's officially Batman, he's training and preparing for the role extensively. He's got experience from that too.
I wouldn't say it was legendary but many people (myself included) think he is the best Batman/Bruce yet.
No small feat considering the actors that have played the character before him (and the many, many movies).
It's hard to say whether this is worse than the whole Jason Todd is the Joker thing that's been floating around for ages but man it's equally as bad. Just recast and move on.
Superman is their second most important character and possibly the oldest and one of the most popular superhero ever, yet WB isn't afraid of potentially risky casting there.
Also, Michael Keaton only had a handful of movies under his belt (only two that were really noteworthy at all) and was mostly a minor TV actor before becoming Batman
Guess who was still TV star when he got the role of Batman
Where does it say that this is spear headed by Ben? You're just combining previous, month old reports with this new news. Even the old news about Ben wanting out was sketch
Lights and Waves
Member
Flashpoint. Something something Batfleck has to sacrifice himself. Something something DNA something something Batman looks younger and hotter now.
Lights and Waves
Member
Matt Bomer PLEASE
Yeah, didn't like him in that either. I get that people warm to his performance because it's quite fun but to me it was seeing the acting wheels in motion, fake and an overly done caricature.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
If Affleck leaves, I could see them going after Toby Kebbell, since he fits the bill and has a history with Reeves.
What is the difference other than a number? Story wise your idea is the same as what I stated.
You said "narratively, Bruce being middle aged, experienced Batman when he first meets Superman and co. seems...odd."
But that's pretty much the same thing you just said. An experienced Batman first meeting Superman. Unless they work arthritis into the story, I don't see the issue.
Commanche Raisin Toast
Member
I've never liked Affleck so I'm down for a recast.
MugiwaraCole
Member
Early to mid 30's isn't middle-aged lol
Bruce can have been Batman for 2 years and still have his world flipped upside down by seeing aliens for the first time. He doesn't need to be some grizzled old man damn near for that to work.
Hah isn't that always the case? We gotta do Crisis on Infinite Earth just to recast an actor.
chrisPjelly
Member
FFS Warner Bros. Until the Wonder Woman movie, Batfleck WAS arguably the DCU's best element. Unless he phoned it in for Justice League, he'd be a perfect Bat/Bruce with the right writers.
RoninChaos
Member
This is seriously the best first reply I've ever seen.
Did you even read my post?
What does his age matter if it isn't even a part of the narrative? He's not walking around on a cane. They could have made him 35-40 years old for BvS and not one scene would have had to change
Again. This is mostly on Ben too. His personal life isn't going well at all. He probably wants out as well. If anything. It's mutual.
Bomber is 5' 7"
He'd need some RJD boots to get up to Gal's height.
And I say this as a fellow 5' 7" dude
I didn't think of this
He was the best character in Kong, despite being in the movie for 45 seconds
For real? Almost makes me feel better about my height. If only I looked as good as Bomer
Chained Prometheus
Member
Yup. Back when Reeves first got the gig and those rumors of Affleck being recast were just starting up, Toby Kebbell was my immediate first guess as to who Reeves would go with for the role.
Hell, even that doesn't happen, I could possibly see Reeves picking Kebbell for either Dick Grayson or Jason Todd too.
Smokey_Run
Member
I find it funny people are throwing out Flashpoint as a possible solution to addressing why ONE cast member is leaving the connected universe.
Flashpoint will be saved for if they really need to reboot this thing or they reach the eventual point where they need to reboot the universe in 10-15 years. It's not being wasted on addressing Affleck stepping down as Batman.
Flashpoint will be saved for if they really need to reboot this thing or they reach the eventual point where they need to reboot the universe in 10-15 years. It's not being wasted on addressing Affleck stepping down as Batman.
Camera trickery can help a lot. Keaton is was only 5'9"
Keaton was basically a comedian when he got cast as Bats and there was a backlash against him. Downey was a unhirable druggy burnout until he was Iron Man.
Plenty of TV grade actors went on to be hot shit. Bruce Willis was on the TV Show Moonlighting before he became hot shit as Die Hard.
Obviously its bad. They're gonna shoe horn in a reason why batman looks differebt though. This isn't a Rhodey "I'm here get over it." Situation. Although that would be funny if they did it that way. Alfred would see a silhouette and say who are you followed by the new actor just saying I'm batman. Or something like that.
George Oscar Bluth II
Banned
Oscar Isaac
Nightwing123
Member
Superman is their second most important character and possibly the oldest and one of the most popular superhero ever, yet WB isn't afraid of potentially risky casting there.
Also, Michael Keaton only had a handful of movies under his belt (only two that were really noteworthy at all) and was mostly a TV actor before becoming Batman
Guess who was still TV star when he got the role of Batman
Beatlejuice was a big movie being one of the top grossing films that year so Michael Keaton had some rising star power at the time. So it made sense to cast him especially since Tim Burton was also the director of Beatlejuice. George Clooney at least had two movies where had big roles in before batman all Stephen Amell has are flops.
DrunkShogun
Member
I actually want this. Won't happen because there's a large portion of people who want Bruce Wayne batman.
Or they can just recast and just keep going. That's the most logical thing.
MugiwaraCole
Member
I did.
My personal point was him being an old man narratively was an odd angle to take because it essentially puts them in a corner where they've only got a few years with Bruce in the role before they have to recast him or move on to Dick/Tim/whoever.
They hit all the same plot points that you're championing with a younger Bruce who's been Batman a year or two. Having the Justice League members all meet each other while they're kind of in the midst of starting their vigilantism is more interesting. Diana should've been the "experienced" one. Bruce is gonna be jaded however old he is.
Leto is fine. With the right script and direction he can be a great joker
This is terrible.
Chained Prometheus
Member
... Goddamn, that's actually genius casting right there.
Smokey_Run
Member
First direction he needs, stop acting like someone nodding out on heroin.
I think it also has to do with how awful Man of Steel and BvS was. They can even reboot Suicide Squad too. They can basically fix the shit show that is the DCU with Flashpoint.
Lights and Waves
Member
HOLY shit. He's that hot guy from Black Mirror. I'm SO up for this.
FUN FACT: If you take the box office of the two George Clooney movies he made prior to Batman & Robin, double the number, they still barley made the money of Stephen Amell's one movie so far.
Also, there was a giant backlash against Michael Keaton playing Batman because he was viewed as a comedy actor at the time. WB rushed out a Batman trailer that was so rough it didn't even have music just to convince people Keaton was legit
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
And he was Victor Von Tinfoil in Fant4stic.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
I noticed that in Spider-Man Homecoming, he's about the same height as Tom Holland. So I'm kind of doubting the 5'9'' Probably addded two inches ala RDJ.. Not that it matters.. His Batman was intimidating was fuck. Vulture is a badass.
Keaton for every role ever, is what I'm getting at here.