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[Smokey_Run]

What is going on with Affleck?

Never mind -- I just saw your response about.

I thought they called off his divorce?

Nah. They officially filed for divorce a few months back according to quick search. I thought he might have turned a corner cause there were rumors he was dating a producer from SNL, but considering he just dropped out of another film earlier this week citing needing to focus on personal issues, I'd say he's still trying to get through his relapse.

 

[jelly]

I mean, didn't Keaton say a couple of years ago he'd be open to returning to the role in some capacity?

Spoiler

It's not actually going to happen

What if they just did a cameo tease like Barry travels to another universe or something even bigger and he is the old Batman. Would absolutely love that. They could easily do it.

 

[George Oscar Bluth II]

Man I love how much attention Keaton is getting for comic book roles right now. Iñárritu must be pissed.

Yep and it makes me smile. Dude is so up his own ass.

 

[Boke1879]

Wow, I can't believe DC fucked this up. They should have just given Affleck full reign to do whatever he wanted. It's going to be so strange to see a new Batman after BvS and Justice League.

How is giving Ben full reign addressing his personal issues?

This most likely has nothing to do with any sort of studio drama and more to do with Ben's personal issues and he he probably wants a step back. Any studio would likely question how reliable such a person is.

Not to mention Reeves is starting from scratch. It'll be like 3 years before the Batman is finished and Ben will be pushing 48. Don't care who you are. That's a lot work for a physically demanding role.

 

[Lights and Waves]

What is going on with Affleck?

Never mind -- I just saw your response about.

I thought they called off his divorce?

Alcoholic. Cheated on his wife. Garner gave up her career to take care of his children. Stepping out in public now with one of his mistresses.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

Yep and it makes me smile.

 

[Astral Dog]

thank GOD.

 

[Frozenprince]

I feel like jumping to Dick Grayson this early would be... unfulfilling.

Here's how I'd handle it. Solo movie, Batman is haunted by Jason Todd's death, he spends it hunting his enemy whatever they choose to run with. But it shows him just not being as fast or mentally able as he used to be. Dick, as Nightwing, makes appearances throughout and they set up Tim Drake. Film ends with him sitting at the bat computer, holding the costume with the cowl as it pans out.

Nightwing movie goes trough Dicks biggest trail in bludhaven, he's beaten and bloodied but victorious over whatever it is (you can even have Barb come to help) and the movie ends with him getting a call from Alfred about something "Master Bruce wants to discuss with you" or something.

Bam. Next movie it's Greyson and Tim Drake Robin and you've given him two movies to establish himself.

 

[Firemind]

Here's how I'd handle it. Solo movie, Batman is haunted by Jason Todd's death, he spends it hunting his enemy whatever they choose to run with. But it shows him just not being as fast or mentally able as he used to be. Dick, as Nightwing, makes appearances throughout and they set up Tim Drake. Film ends with him sitting at the bat computer, holding the costume with the cowl as it pans out.

Nightwing movie goes trough Dicks biggest trail in bludhaven, he's beaten and bloodied but victorious over whatever it is (you can even have Barb come to help) and the movie ends with him getting a call from Alfred about something "Master Bruce wants to discuss with you" or something.

Bam. Next movie it's Greyson and Tim Drake Robin and you've given him two movies to establish himself.

But Bruce Wayne is Batman. Batman isn't Bruce Wayne.

 

[Anung]

But Bruce Wayne is Batman. Batman isn't Bruce Wayne.

Bruce Wayne died when he was 8. Batman is all that's left.

 

[Frozenprince]

Only if you're Frank Miller.

 

[Sephzilla]

Man I love how much attention Keaton is getting for comic book roles right now. Iñárritu must be pissed.

i missed something

 

[LegendofDragoonLives]

Man I love how much attention Keaton is getting for comic book roles right now. Iñárritu must be pissed.

In all of the bad ideas that I've heard, Keaton is far and away the dumbest one I've heard so far. The only way Keaton is a great choice is there is a Batman Beyond and he's the (really) old Bruce.

 

[santi_yo]

Ouch

https://twitter.com/tatianasiegel27/status/888449408848842752

That's like body shaming. Disgusting.

 

[Firemind]

Bruce Wayne died when he was 8. Batman is all that's left.

That's what I said. He would never give up his cowl.

 

[Nemesis121]

Perfect Time for Batman Beyond movie..

 

[Sephzilla]

But Bruce Wayne is Batman. Batman isn't Bruce Wayne.

https://youtu.be/Ceca1JCRQbA?t=33s

Tell that to his subconscious

 

[firelogic]

It's a shame because the problem wasn't with him. Does this mean after the Justice League movie they're going to reboot the DCU again?

The problem IS him. I don't know what's going on in his personal life but he's been a total flake. Saying he's directing Batman, then not directing it, then said he is directing it and then not again. Said he's writing it and has a great idea then said it's not going anywhere and then said it's going great and now Reeves is dropping his script. Then he drops out of Triple Threat. And Live by Night was a complete bomb. He's been acting weird ever since. WB can't trust the guy to be there so they should cut ties with him as soon as they can and come up with a story reason as to why Bruce is gone or why Bruce looks different.

Honestly, Batman was awesome in BvS but that was all Snyder. Anyone with the right body type can put on that suit and with Snyder's team's choreography and shot framing, whoever it is will look just as intimidating and badass as Affleck did. 33% was the suit. 33% was the fight choreography. 33% was Snyder's directing behind the camera. 1% was Affleck's chin.

 

[Replicant]

Flashpoint this entire dumpster fire. Leave WW if you want to but the rest can go as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Real Hero]

worst batman ever?

 

[Frozenprince]

They are not going to do Flashpoint five movies in.

 

[Slime]

He looked alright in the Batsuit, but aside from that, nothing of value was lost.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Flashpoint this entire dumpster fire. Leave WW if you want to but the rest can go as far as I'm concerned.

Yep. That's what will happen and I hope it happens if WB can't sort their shit out. Keep the good ones, and get rid of the bad ones or ones that don't want to work.

 

[bananafactory]

What the hell is Flashpoint will someone explain this to me

 

[Sephzilla]

They are not going to do Flashpoint five movies in.

They did already Flash timetravel shit in the second movie of the DCEU .

What the hell is Flashpoint will someone explain this to me

Flash goes back in time to save

Spoiler

his mom

.
Flash fucks up the present as a result.
Flash goes back and fixes it, comes back, things are mostly the same but some shit is different.

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

I'm fine with that.

 

[Hagi]

They are not going to do Flashpoint five movies in.

As much as I think Flashpoint is terrible I think they could make an interesting movie on it but yeah that's not happening when they are just now starting to gain traction on this stuff.

 

[Anung]

What the hell is Flashpoint will someone explain this to me

Flash accidentally runs to a timeline where bad shit is happening. We need this to be that in reverse.

 

[bananafactory]

Flash goes back in time to save

Spoiler

his mom

.
Flash fucks up the present as a result.
Flash goes back and fixes it, comes back, things are mostly the same but some shit is different.

Flash accidentally runs to a timeline where bad shit is happening. We need this to be that in reverse.

So it's Back to the Future part 2? That's cool

Why does everything in every movie revolve around people's moms

 

[Sephzilla]

PLOT TWIST - The current DCEU is already the Flashpoint universe and Barry is going to revert it back to its proper form

 

[Frozenprince]

They did already Flash timetravel shit in the second movie of the DCEU .



Flash goes back in time to save

Spoiler

his mom

.
Flash fucks up the present as a result.
Flash goes back and fixes it, comes back, things are mostly the same but some shit is different.

They are not resetting the timeline, especially if JL is well received. That's something you save for when everybody has either aged out or had contracts expire.

 

[DeathyBoy]

worst batman ever?

Dumpster tier posting. Seriously. And take it from an expert in dumpster tier posting.

 

[J_Viper]

On the topic of age

If Ben wasn't fighting his own personal demons, I don't see why he couldn't stay in shape in his mid-40s/early 50s

 

[Bobby Roberts]

They are not going to do Flashpoint five movies in.

Ehhhhh

I mean, they made Batman v Superman the sequel to Man of Steel, put Wonder Woman in it, dropped Doomsday on the ass of it, and set up an entire sequence featuring dimension/timehopping w/ Flash & Parademons.

Flashpoint-esque universe shenaniganery is on the table.

They've basically been eyeing a means to move away from the Snyder aesthetic for awhile now. It's just a matter of how quick & clean they want the break to be. They don't want a messy one, and they don't wanna shit all over people they still have good relationships with. But they do want to point the ship in the direction Johns/Jenkins just pushed it w/ Wonder Woman. Flash (if he catches on in Justice League) can be a means to rip open a reboot from the end of the Man of Steel/Batman v Superman/Justice League trilogy and effectively start over.

(Keep in mind: Whedon's helping steer now. He's definitely pretty comfy with this kind of ridiculousness, and knows how to sell it)

 

[near]

Affleck sucks as Batman, good riddance if this turns out to be true. BvS was a pile of shit for multiple reasons and Affleck being Batman was one of them.

 

[Boke1879]

THey aren't going to adapt Flashpoint just so some posters in this thread can have the movies they disliked out of their cannon.

You recast and move on really. They aren't going to Flashpoint anything when we have Aquaman coming, Shazam shooting in Feb, Batgirl, Sirens, WW2 and hopefully we get some Flash news.

At what point do you expect a Flashpoint adaption to come in?

By the time we even get to the Batman years will have passed and general audiences won't give a shit about a recast.

 

[WriterGK]

I don't care much for Ben anymore hated him in the acountant. But if they go for Tom Cruise they might as well file for bankruptcy while they are at it.

 

[Real Hero]

Dumpster tier posting. Seriously. And take it from an expert in dumpster tier posting.

I can't think if a worse one who or one made less impact. I think he will go down as the worst one by far

 

[Father_Brain]

In hindsight, maybe it was more telling than most of us thought that Affleck wasn't mentioned in the press release announcing Reeves as director.

 

[Sephzilla]

They are not resetting the timeline, especially if JL is well received. That's something you save for when everybody has either aged out or had contracts expire.

Like I said, we've already had Flash fucking with the timeline two movies in so I don't think Flashpoint is off the table. Not to mention Flashpoint is a pretty popular (albeit new) Flash story. And if Justice League isn't received well, the odds of them doing some kind of reset isn't a huge stretch. Plus, it's not like DC comics themselves don't reset the universe rather frequently

 

[jelly]

Yep. That's what will happen and I hope it happens if WB can't sort their shit out. Keep the good ones, and get rid of the bad ones or ones that don't want to work.

Keep Wonder Woman
New Batman
New Lex
New Joker
New Lois and do something with her.
New Superman
Too early on Aquaman, Flash etc.
Keep Harley Quinn
Keep Waller
Axe the rest of the Suicide Squad
New Perry White, Fishburne is sleep walking that role.
Keep Alfred

 

[The Kree]

In hindsight, maybe it was more telling than most of us thought that Affleck wasn't mentioned in the press release announcing Reeves as director.

What's most fucked about this is Affleck has won Academy Awards for writing and directing. This whole thing should be a layup.

 

[Lights and Waves]

As much as I think Flashpoint is terrible I think they could make an interesting movie on it but yeah that's not happening when they are just now starting to gain traction on this stuff.

I think gaining traction is a stretch. Wonder Woman is lightning in a bottle. Its solo series will be critical and commercial smashes. But I have no doubt that the Justice League will be panned.

 

[SpaceWolf]

They are not going to do Flashpoint five movies in.

No, of course not.

 

[Smokey_Run]

What's most fucked about this is Affleck has won Academy Awards for writing and directing. This whole thing should be a layup.

Affleck wasn't back on the sauce when those two things happened either.

 

[Zen_Arcade]

That's what I said. He would never give up his cowl.

Bruce can and has given up his cowl. Usually it's because he's injured or dead. But he's still given the blessing.

 

[JigglesBunny]

Margo, Ben and Gal have been the only well cast characters in the entire DCCU. The guy is a fantastic Batman, not his fault that the only movie we've seen him in thus far was a tire fire.

If we're ushering out anyone, it should be Cavill.

Spoiler

Not like there isn't a perfect opportunity on the table either though with Justice League said and done, it's a bit late now.

 

[Boke1879]

What's most fucked about this is Affleck has won Academy Awards for writing and directing. This whole thing should be a layup.

Like many have said. Ben's personal life isn't going the best right now. He probably wants to step away. I mean he's the one who stepped down from Directing The Batman. It's most likely mutual between him and WB is they decide to split.

With his troubles with alcohol, and family issues it's hard to see how reliable he'll be. Especially if you want him to sign on for a trilogy at his age when the first movie won't be out for like 2.5-3 years.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

It doesn't have to actually be an adaptation of Flashpoint. Flashpoint is basically shorthand for "Flash does something wonky w/ the universe" that's all.

Considering WB (and Marvel...and Fox and Sony) are still completely allergic to even attempting a faithful adaptation of any famous graphic novel run, Flashpoint being adapted is a long shot.

But someone at the WB brain trust pushing the notion of Flash as a reset button to steer away from Snyder's aesthetic and steer towards Jenkins/Johns success with Wonder Woman? I can see it.

Again: WB has been looking at (and choosing) options since like, February. As Brain pointed out upthread, there's probably something to Affleck's name not being in the WB press release announcing Reeves' takeover of the project. The news we're hearing now is likely not even all that new news, it's just that we're finally hearing about it - similarly to Whedon not being made public until months after he'd already been brought on.

Wonder Woman's success has emboldened them, and given them options to do this a lot more gracefully and pleasantly than were on the table prior.

 

[Hagi]

I can't think if a worste one who or one made the least impact. I think he will go down as the worst one by far

Affleck is in now way worse than Val Kilmer or Clooney were as Batman that's just crazy talk.

Like I said, we've already had Flash fucking with the timeline two movies in so I don't think Flashpoint is off the table. Not to mention Flashpoint is a pretty popular (albeit new) Flash story. And if Justice League isn't received well, the odds of them doing some kind of reset isn't a huge stretch. Plus, it's not like DC comics themselves don't reset the universe rather frequently

DC just rebooted again to get away from the mess they created with Flashpoint. Why over complicate things when you can just do better with what you have.