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Best movie visual effects of the pre-CG era?

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NLB2

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Liono said:
It's hard to avoid Jurassic Park-- for me at least, even today i'm just amazed.
Yeah, those were pretty good men in costumes...

2001. As said above. Beautiful models. Very cool colored oils.
 

Doc Holliday

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Empire Strikes back, Return of the Jedi

Blade Runner

ALiens

Legend

Willow

Raiders of the lost ark

Gremlins

Terminator

Total Recall

American warewolf in london
 

Liono

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NLB2 said:
Yeah, those were pretty good men in costumes...
malcolm-trex1_max.jpg


Wonder who they got to fill out that one....
 

Liono

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Chipopo said:
Lioni, read the thread title a bit slower.

Yeah, i'm wrong. I remember seeing all those stan winston puppets in the making-of features and just assumed. Still a huge achievement for '93.
 

whytemyke

Honorary Canadian.
I'm pulling out a sleeper, although I'm not sure if it'll count.

Top Gun.

The fact that they filmed every single aspect of that movie using real fighter pilots, with all those crazy fighter jet scenes, and only one pilot died in the making of it is simply incredible.

It's not really special effects, though, because it's using real shit. But I'm putting it in here because if it was done today, they'd use special effects (see: Behind Enemy Lines). So yeah, Top Gun was amazing visual effects.
 

bionic77

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Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi, Aliens, Bladerunner, and the Abyss.

Superman was amazing for its time, but it looks so dated now. The titles I picked hold up really well even today.

I actually think the Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi dvd release look better then the garbage prequels. I think they added some cg in those to make them look so good though.
 

Hitman

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I second Robocop!

For it's time ED-209 looked sweet. But let's pretend he was'nt in it, the Robocop costume is the best looking robot/cyborg on film ever.
 

Jotaro

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Hitman said:
For it's time ED-209 looked sweet. But let's pretend he was'nt in it, the Robocop costume is the best looking robot/cyborg on film ever.

Oh yes the Robocop costume is smokin', but where I disagree with you is that ED-209 looked sweet, because I saw the movie in the theater when it was released, and it was ridiculous. It's a outrage to stop-motion!
 

kumanoki

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Jotaro said:
Oh yes the Robocop costume is smokin', but where I disagree with you is that ED-209 looked sweet, because I saw the movie in the theater when it was released, and it was ridiculous. It's a outrage to stop-motion!

Don't you dare say an unkind word about stop-motion! Harryhausen was a movie GOD! (Even thought ED-209 wasn't Harryhausen...you attack the cubs, you attack the bear.)
 

Hitman

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Jotaro said:
Oh yes the Robocop costume is smokin', but where I disagree with you is that ED-209 looked sweet, because I saw the movie in the theater when it was released, and it was ridiculous. It's a outrage to stop-motion!

Okay well maybe you have a better perspective on it, I was like 6 when I first saw Robocop and ED-209 had a huge COOL factor to it. I probably would have thought it looked bad too if I was a little older.

Oh yeh, another thing I remember was Dick Jones falling from the building.. that had some pretty bad special effects in it. His arms were like 10 feet long!

Same kind of bad effects the original batman had, one scene Batman's shadow looked dranw on.
 

Jotaro

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Hitman said:
Okay well maybe you have a better perspective on it, I was like 6 when I first saw Robocop and ED-209 had a huge COOL factor to it. I probably would have thought it looked bad too if I was a little older.

Oh yeh, another thing I remember was Dick Jones falling from the building.. that had some pretty bad special effects in it. His arms were like 10 feet long!

Same kind of bad effects the original batman had, one scene Batman's shadow looked dranw on.


Funny thing dude is, I also was about 6 when I saw it in the teather. It was my first movie that I'd see in a theater.
 

Hitman

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Jotaro said:
Funny thing dude is, I also was about 6 when I saw it in the teather. It was my first movie that I'd see in a theater.

Wanna have sex?
 

Master Z

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I would have to say The Empire Strikes Back for the best use of models and matte paintings ever. Close second goes to Aliens imo.
 

Jotaro

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Hitman said:
Wanna have sex?

Hey, I think it was my uncle who wanted to show it to me because I loved trucks and robots, cool stories, superheroes and animation. Others I guess, their first movie was the Disney flick with the private mouse.
 

Tarazet

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You saw Robocop when you were 6?? That's a pretty damn intense movie for a 6 year old. IIRC it just barely missed hitting the X/NC-17 mark. And yeah, my first movie was Oliver & Company.
 
Wasn't the Abyss the first use of CG though, with that goofy water thing at the end? It had some good traditional effects prior to that scene though.
 

Hitman

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Jotaro said:
Hey, I think it was my uncle who wanted to show it to me because I loved trucks and robots, cool stories, superheroes and animation. Others I guess, their first movie was the Disney flick with the private mouse.

Yeh... but answer my question.
 

Jotaro

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Spectral Glider said:
Wasn't the Abyss the first use of CG though, with that goofy water thing at the end? It had some good traditional effects prior to that scene though.

It was the private mouse flick from Disney, with the Big-Ben scene.
 

android

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I'll have to go with Star Wars: Attack of the Clones or the Matrix ..................................... :lol

Aliens. That Queen was mind blowing.
 

Jotaro

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sonarrat said:
You saw Robocop when you were 6?? That's a pretty damn intense movie for a 6 year old.

Yes I knew it barely avoided the X-rating, but when I was young I guess I wasn't old enough to notice some of the gore. When I'd see the movie, years later, the scene with the criminal melted with acid and afterwards freaked me out. But when I saw it on DVD I found it all mellow, I guess.
 

kumanoki

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Jotaro said:
sonarrat said:
You saw Robocop when you were 6?QUOTE]

Yes I knew it barely avoided the X-rating, but when I was young I guess I wasn't old enough to notice some of the gore. When I'd see the movie, years later, the scene with the criminal melted with acid and afterwards freaked me out. But when I saw it on DVD I found it all mellow, I guess.

I saw it at about the same time. It was summer of 1987, right?
 

Jotaro

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kumanoki said:
I saw it at about the same time. It was summer of 1987, right?

IMDB says it was released on july 17 1987, I don't remember all the details but I think I saw it on premiere. And in Quebec and Canada, we get the movies same time as their US releases. I saw the french dub, but when I heard the english dub I found Robocop sounded even more ridiculous. But I like all the filthyness and witty replies that were lost in translation. :)

That's fun, the dude who dubs the acid-melted criminal also dubs Adam Sandler. :lol
 
Spectral Glider said:
Wasn't the Abyss the first use of CG though, with that goofy water thing at the end? It had some good traditional effects prior to that scene though.

The first movie to heavily invest in cgi was Tron, followed a couple years later by The Last Starfighter. The Abyss won the first Oscar using cgi however.

My pic would have to be 2001, still looks very good after all this time.

EDIT: here is a cool little timeling of cgi, so double check before you put any answers here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_CGI_in_movies
 

Jotaro

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Hitman said:
Yeh... but answer my question.

I want to understand it's irony before I do. If there was any serious in it, no because you're a guy, and you also seem to be pernicious based on some of your previous posts I randomly checked. ;)
 

Prospero

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Not yet mentioned in this thread--the first three Star Trek movies. The models in those films are unbelievably detailed.

I still don't know how they did the bit with the exploding Genesis Planet at the end of STIII.
 

Ollie Pooch

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Jotaro said:
This is because Scott and his team used remaining parts from Aliens. :)

didn't they use the millennium falcon as a building in one shot?
and aliens came out liek 5 years or so after blade runner :p

but both are awesome :D
 
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