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Best movie visual effects of the pre-CG era?

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Jotaro

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Prospero said:
Not yet mentioned in this thread--the first three Star Trek movies. The models in those films are unbelievably detailed.

Ah funny, I remember I was in Canada's wonderland, I stood before the model used for the Enterprise in one of the Star Trek flick! :) I also got to take a photograph of the Gartmobile, and I had made a picture of myself sitting on Forrest Gump's bus stop. It was cool.

Oh, and I meant Alien as opposed to AlienS. ;)
 

Jotaro

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Odnetnin said:
No one has mentioned the NEVERENDING STORY? Respect.

Oh yes, it's really great. Some costumes and animations here and there are a little dated, but it still rocks. :)
 

sonicfan

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Jotaro said:
This is because Scott and his team used remaining parts from Aliens. :)


Actually, they used the model of the Millennium Falcon from Star Wars as a building in Blade Runner. :D
 

Jotaro

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sonicfan said:
Actually, they used the model of the Millennium Falcon from Star Wars as a building in Blade Runner. :D

That too, I read it in Total Movie if I recall correctly. The three good issues before Future Network shut down many magazines, and Dailyradar.com. All other mags bearing the name Total Movie afterwards stinked. And it eventually went bankrupt too.

Dammit I want more Total Movie magazines made by Future Network! :(

Is Total Film any good if I like Total Movie?
 

DarienA

The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
I love Tron but the film itself even on the 20th Anniversary DVD has not aged well... the visuals for the people just don't work as well as the did... though the animated world still looks good... god I'd kill for a remake... not a f'n sequel... an honest to true stay true to the story just jazz up the graphics remake.... <sigh>
 
I agree with a lot of movies mentioned. My vote goes to Total Recall.
Those triple breasts were astounding.

Oh and the whole oxidising Mars thing... eruptions, clouds coming through windows, people suffocating nastily... eyes bulging etc.

The effect in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade where the guy drinks from the wrong cup was nasty too.

Every effect in Braindead is in the same book. But there's a lot more of em. Good ol' gore!
 

Jeffahn

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Prospero said:
Not yet mentioned in this thread--the first three Star Trek movies. The models in those films are unbelievably detailed.

I still don't know how they did the bit with the exploding Genesis Planet at the end of STIII.

I was going to mention this. I was completely astounding by this scene from the early 80's when I first saw it sometime in the 90's.

Does anyone have any info on how it was produced?

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Some of you youngsters need to go rent 2001: A Space Odyssey on DVD. It was made before we landed on the moon, and it still looks better than a lot of modern sci-fi movies.
 

tedtropy

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Jonnyboy117 said:
Some of you youngsters need to go rent 2001: A Space Odyssey on DVD. It was made before we landed on the moon, and it still looks better than a lot of modern sci-fi movies.

It has some visually amazing moments, and I like the movie, but if you are the least bit tired it's a movie that will knock you out cold. That's not intended as an insult, it's just the atmosphere the movie created. Very serene, very relaxing, even despite the subdued creepiness of HAL.

Apocalypse Now has the same impact on me, despite the content of the film being anything but comforting. I suppose it's just the long deliberate pacing of the film. Modern films consist of alot of jarring scene transitions, while Apocalypse Now really took you on a journey from beginning to end. 2001 is the same way to me - from birth to death and back again.
 

SteveMeister

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Jeffahn said:
I was going to mention this. I was completely astounding by this scene from the early 80's when I first saw it sometime in the 90's.

Does anyone have any info on how it was produced?

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ILM did it. It was one of the first fully CGI scenes done in a movie. It was also co-opted for some weird Japanese laserdisc based arcade game that also incorporated a lot of footage from some campy space-ships-on-wires Japanese sci-fi movie. Can't remember the name of the game, they had one on campus back when I was in college (so somewhere between '83 and '87).
 

Prospero

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SteveMeister said:
ILM did it. It was one of the first fully CGI scenes done in a movie. It was also co-opted for some weird Japanese laserdisc based arcade game that also incorporated a lot of footage from some campy space-ships-on-wires Japanese sci-fi movie. Can't remember the name of the game, they had one on campus back when I was in college (so somewhere between '83 and '87).

I don't think that's CG. I'm not talking about the little film that Kirk's scientist wife makes that's the demo of the Genesis Project (which is one of the first all-CGI sequences of that length)--I'm talking about the bit where the planet explodes as the Klingon ship's flying away from it, and the surface of the planet belches out a pile of rocks and debris and lava and whatnot. The ship is clearly a miniature, and some of the rocks are clearly miniatures, but the rest of it I can't puzzle out. And for a film made in 1984, it looks way too detailed to be CG.

Here's kind of a bad screencap of a frame of it--that could be done now with CG, but not twenty years ago.

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Odnetnin

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Jonnyboy117 said:
Some of you youngsters need to go rent 2001: A Space Odyssey on DVD. It was made before we landed on the moon, and it still looks better than a lot of modern sci-fi movies.


except its turd boring and stupid. You'd need to be on caffeine to sit through this. I was so bored. Solaris:Soderberg kicked this ones arse to the moon and back (ahem)
 
Odnetnin said:
except its turd boring and stupid. You'd need to be on caffeine to sit through this. I was so bored. Solaris:Soderberg kicked this ones arse to the moon and back (ahem)

Whether you like the movie or not, I was talking about the effects, whose quality is irreproachable.
 
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