For sure.
Biggest downgrades from initial reveal?
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For sure.
Target video and actually, they said the final game would look even better. They did the same thing with the PS4/Xbox One Madden trailer.
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
The first is CG and was not the target or expectation at the time.
Garcia
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I watched that video you posted and I can honestly say the final version pretty much wrapped up all those ideas together at the expense of sacrificing AI depth and water effects. It's not that much of a deal actually; I'm currently replaying Bioshock 1 and it's a great FPS with a lot of filler stuff put in between goals just to make it feel like quite a long adventure.
In reality, the game just drags too much. It could have been 3 hours shorter.
SlipperySlope
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Killzone 2.
Lion Heart
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Shit I just read that thread, brought back a lot of feels.
Gaf was such a Community back then, there were massive wars but in the end we were all in it together.
Come on, Soul Reaver is the best looking PS1 game. And that was the CG intro.
ss_lemonade
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I haven't gotten around to playing the PC version much yet, only had the Xbox one so maybe that's why. The screenshots I remember were looked very high res and the game was supposed to have destructible environments, multiplayer and some pretty water effects.
I don't think this was ever true.
Lightning Returns is a big graphical downgrade though lol
haha pretty much
Duke Nukem Forever. Not in a graphical sense, but remember this old trailer?
I wanted to play that game.
What we got was...well...eh...
I wanted to play that game.
What we got was...well...eh...
Gamesadict
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I honestly wasn't sure of a downgrade I even cared about.
Then someone mentioned Kinect... Oh god. Kinect was something I cared about for a while for being interesting tech, and they obviously hyped it like it would destroy controllers and buttons. Then I went to the US later that year and saw advertising for it and the extremely crazy stuff they expected it to be able to do. By then I already knew all of that was impossible, but everyone still believed it was real!
Nothing compares to the horrible disappointment that was E3 2010.
"Yay Cirque Du Soleil that's awesome and- Jesus Christ this demo is horribly staged what the fuck why, I hope I'm not the only one that can see it (and no, I certainly wasn't the only one) dear God make it stop."
Having Cirque Du Soleil before the demo should have been a good clue of what was about to happen. The thing still sold like hotcakes thanks to the insane marketing, but never in its lifetime beat the already low expectations I had for it at launch.
Kind of a rant, but yeah, Kinect.
Dat post history. Sorry, couldn't help it.
Then someone mentioned Kinect... Oh god. Kinect was something I cared about for a while for being interesting tech, and they obviously hyped it like it would destroy controllers and buttons. Then I went to the US later that year and saw advertising for it and the extremely crazy stuff they expected it to be able to do. By then I already knew all of that was impossible, but everyone still believed it was real!
Nothing compares to the horrible disappointment that was E3 2010.
"Yay Cirque Du Soleil that's awesome and- Jesus Christ this demo is horribly staged what the fuck why, I hope I'm not the only one that can see it (and no, I certainly wasn't the only one) dear God make it stop."
Having Cirque Du Soleil before the demo should have been a good clue of what was about to happen. The thing still sold like hotcakes thanks to the insane marketing, but never in its lifetime beat the already low expectations I had for it at launch.
Although Kinect 2 certainly has been something else, properly integrated to the X1.
Kind of a rant, but yeah, Kinect.
Dat post history. Sorry, couldn't help it.
In size and gameplay scope, yeah. The skyline stuff got hacked down, the NPCs were gimped intelligence-wise, and Elizabeth became a much more passive player in the game rather than contributing to the fight.
mickcenary
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We won't hit what's going on in the KZ2 CGI trailer for another 2 generations. People are definitely getting confused and mistakenly equating an aesthetic more to their liking with graphical prowess.
The CGI trailer's animations and their non-gamey seamlessness alone put it tiers above what we've got and what we will get this generation.
The CGI trailer's animations and their non-gamey seamlessness alone put it tiers above what we've got and what we will get this generation.
Gotta say, I prefer piss yellow/green filter over the shit yellow/brown filter we ended up getting.
Can't believe I actually typed that.
Phire Phox
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Yep. I remember RS looking pretty awesome in the E3 2006 reveal and the final game looked like shit. (And played like it too.)
Morrigan Stark
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The fuck are you on about? The first is the CG intro, no one ever said the in-game graphics would look like this.
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
TheUnsunghero26
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Mass Effect 1 changed a lot from its E3 2006 and X06 versions. This video isn't the best quality, but it has some really nice lighting. Galaxy Map was awesome too (though it was faked).
Still my game of the generation though.
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
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Nothing and I mean NOTHING is worse than Aliens Colonial Marines.
shadowsdarknes
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This thread makes me want a 1080p 60 fps MGS4.
Krappadizzle
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Ughh... Never again. I played through that game I think twice and hated it both times. First time I beat it, I thought I maybe missed something in one of the hour+ long cutscenes, so I decided to slog through it again as I loved the series and thought I should be sure. Nope, still hot garbage juice. Even at 60fps, I'd never play that again. GZ is coming in 2 weeks, let's hope Kojima put his best foot forward and we'll see something incredible.
Back on topic. It seems that Ubisoft commonly does these types of things. I noticed immediately the difference in Far Cry 3. It still looked great on PC, but it wasn't as good as it was with the initial reveal.
This one was pretty bad because I remember up until release it still wasnt clear if the platformer elements were cut from the game or not.
I met this MGS4 comparison a while ago:
That original trailer was total bollocks.
Pretty good comparison. Not even in cutscenes does the game hold up, much less during actual gameplay. Thankfully BB in GZ and TPP gameplay moves fairly close to cutscenes quality.
foxuzamaki
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I believe skyward sword took a very very slight downgrade from its initial reveal and demo at E3, nintendo turned down the colors just a bit, but I think link took on lesser polys which is funny since link, zelda, etc. have a ton of polys on them. Like 360 level
nelsonroyale
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I think visually Shadow Fall looks better than the 2005 CG, but technically CG has a lot of headway. Somebody should do a comparison between those two.
moltonasty
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This one reminded me:
What is this? Looks like MGS if it was N64 or something.
It's a target render from the first showing at TGS'96.
Wishmaster92
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I met this MGS4 comparison a while ago:
That original trailer was total bollocks.
Yeah i remember that. MGS4 was originally supposed to be 60fps like that trailer but ended up looking inferior because sony downgraded the ps3 specs after that demo was produced. It was actually real-time too.
It looks like they've removed the lighting.
Fancy Clown
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I never got the hate for MGS4's graphics, I thought they looked fantastic at the time, and still look pretty decent. Sure, it's got some stiff animations, but I think it was the first game to seamlessly go from cutscene to gameplay, and that was fucking AWESOME
Man... I'd really like to play that game...This is:
DrGonzo615
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I think a lot of people in this topic are confusing an actual downgrade with a target render vs. retail.
Someone correct me if im wrong, but I don't remember anybody officially claiming the Motorstorm or the Killzone 2 videos were actual, in-game demos.
Someone correct me if im wrong, but I don't remember anybody officially claiming the Motorstorm or the Killzone 2 videos were actual, in-game demos.
MetroidPrimeRib
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Ubisoft and EA are the true kings of this.
Gouda Jouji
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I've always thought those changes were weird since Uncharted's cutscenes are all pre-rendered video.
cripterion
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He should have dropped the mic back then too lol
White knight chronicles god damn, trailer was hype. Shame the game was ass
Wasn't the engine done with next gen in mind? I hope the PC version will deliver at least on the original version, there.
What the fuck.
Publishers kind of bank on customers falling for target renders, so they kind of deserve to catch some flak for it.
DrGonzo615
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Ah I missed that, but it sounds like Guerilla set the record straight. Im just amazed how close they got....now Im not saying that Kz2 looks like the target render but damn, I can still put that game in and be amazed at how well the graphics have held up, its still one of the best looking games of last gen.
Maybe the PC version will look like that,here's hoping.
SimpleGamer
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Kingdom hearts 2 E3 trailer.
are some of these games what they where trying to get in terms of visuals but by the end they have to cut back to get the games performance to balance out? some i see like they where completely bs and just gave us a pre rendered video.
TheJollyCorner
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hopefully we aren't using FFXV as an example in a couple five years. :/
Fbh
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I'm too lazy to go look for them.
But I'm quite sure I've seen plenty of screenshots taken from the actual retail release that look just as good as the E3 build ones.
sssstententen
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Can we all stop commenting on the Dark Souls 2 shots, considering both the before and after are compressed and ugly to hell, and the first "after" shot is just complete garbage, you can't see anything.
The game looks pretty close to the original trailers in current gameplay videos/streams, and as was with the last game, the PC version will most likely look amazing once bumped up.
The game looks pretty close to the original trailers in current gameplay videos/streams, and as was with the last game, the PC version will most likely look amazing once bumped up.
BloodMoney
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I don't get why people keep saying this.
Maxed out FC3 on a PC looks phenomenal. Anyone expecting those kind of graphics on a console... is... out of touch with reality.
