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Bioshock Infinite was a terrible sequel to Bioshock
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Depths of Orion
Member
I just don't get how people can say infinite was "shit". I'll agree that the gameplay wasn't that great but everything else was top notch. Loved the story and was blown away by the finale. Some people are coming off pretentious.
KiefbladeMaster
Member
I hated the gameplay but the story wasn't bad at all.
No, that's the game that's coming off as pretentious. Initially convoluted does not equal intelligent. Just because a timeline can be drawn of a story's events does not mean that story is good or free of faults.
Best thing about it is the art design overall. It's goddamn beautiful. Otherwise...eh. Bioshock was a pre-Call of Duty 4 controller-oriented shooter, and it suffers for that. Infinite, though, is a late 360-gen console shooter to a fault. Funnily enough, Bioshock 2 rides that line best.
What does it mean? COD4 played almost exactly like COD2. Do you want to say that +10 whenever you get a kill was such a huge gameplay innovation?
as games, yea all three are terrible
I hope Bioshock 1 gets a remake like 10-20 years down the road and they actually get game designers. FPS gunplay should never be that bad. The atmosphere/story are nice, but it's not enough to carry awful gameplay.
No, I mean Call of Duty 4, via its popularity, established a standard control style for console FPS games that almost everything (sans a few exceptions like Halo) followed, and Bioshock came out a month or so before it. FPS games on consoles weren't quite nailed down in feel yet.
Keep in mind the PC version of Bioshock had a weird "16x9 is cut out of the 4x3 view" thing too, like they expected nobody to have HDTVs or widescreen monitors. Not sure if that was ever patched.
I've really no idea what you're talking about, both Bioshock and COD4(/2) were very minor deviations from the Halo control scheme. Bioshock's controls were indeed not very good, worse than Halo from 2001, and COD4 several months later did not bring any revolution or new standards like you're trying to portray.
GringoSuave89
Banned
I think Burial At Sea Part 2 ruined Infinite retroactively for me. It was such a shitshow of an ending. Infinite on its own? The story had faults but it was a hell of a ride. 1 and 2 were better stories thougg.
Call of Duty 4 absolutely set the standard of control that almost every console first-person shooter chased. While not completely innovative, it was tuned and tight enough to become a de facto standard. To make this completely clear what I'm saying is Bioshock controlled poorly, Bioshock Infinite felt derivative to the point of harming its own play, and Bioshock 2 between its control and mechanics walked a fine line of well-tuned fun on a controller. I've no doubt Bio2 (a 2010 game) learned from what previous console shooters did, namely fixing things Bioshock got wrong and learning over three years what console FPS games (read: CoD4 et al) did right.
Immortal Technique
Member
But the OP said it was 'forgotten'.. I'm confused. I trusted you, OP...
I agree. The gameplay was fun is doses, but was surprisingly tedious. I found myself rushing through the combat to get to get to the exploration. But the story still resonates with me. It was so ambitious, and it worked. Whereas the original Bioshock's story faltered toward the end (after delivering one of the most memorable twists in history), I thought Infinite picked up speed and really delivered.
Psychoward
Banned
Bioshock 1 wasn't exactly well renowned for its pacing or level design either.
QuantumZebra
Member
And there it is
TheRedSnifit
Member
All three Bioshocks suck but infinite is on another level of poor.
Lovely graphics and art style but that's it! Awful awful gun play and handling, Elizabeth doesn't make a great companion (and acts too normal for a girl trapped all her life) and the story is nonsensical coma inducing stuff.
This is one game/series that I'll never understand why is so revered beyond its cool setting.
Lovely graphics and art style but that's it! Awful awful gun play and handling, Elizabeth doesn't make a great companion (and acts too normal for a girl trapped all her life) and the story is nonsensical coma inducing stuff.
This is one game/series that I'll never understand why is so revered beyond its cool setting.
Right but Bioshock had everything else going for it, no one part of Bioshock was "amazing" it was the individual parts that made the game good.
Bioshock infinite stripped those parts away and was left with a "arguably" better paced story but with a corridor shooter that didn't even have decent gunplay compared to..well most other FPS at the same time.
TheRedSnifit
Member
Bioshock was a corridor shooter with poor gunplay compared to most of its contemporaries as well.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
I loved every minute of Infinite.
Icedburden
Member
It always blows my mind in threads like this, when people call a game like this "terrible".
Have any of you played games that reviewed with less than all 10's. It was mediocre for the most part, absolutely. But terrible? I wish i had the same tunnel vision as some of you.
Have any of you played games that reviewed with less than all 10's. It was mediocre for the most part, absolutely. But terrible? I wish i had the same tunnel vision as some of you.
Pretty much how I feel.
I honestly thought the plot was pretty weak too, and not at all what it could have been, but the characters and presentation kept me invested.
I wanted to see a lot more of Columbia though. Felt like a whole world was wasted
Booker.DeWitt
Member
bioshock infinite is not as good as the first one, but I liked better than bioshock 2.
Infinite get a lot of hate it does not deserve
Infinite get a lot of hate it does not deserve
BumblebeeCody
Member
Dunno, I thought the game was so far up it's own arse that I could smell Ken Levine's smugness every time I opened up the game.
I really didn't like it. It wasn't a smart story but a dumb one that also weakened the impact of Bioshock 1 and even 2.
I really didn't like it. It wasn't a smart story but a dumb one that also weakened the impact of Bioshock 1 and even 2.
WhiskerFrisker
Member
This is how I'd describe it. Gameplay bored me to tears. However, I thought the story was cool, but cool enough to play through it all.