jediyoshi
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Except for maintaining the game's distribution method, usage rights, and having created the engine?
Black Mesa now out in Early Access. $20.
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Except for maintaining the game's distribution method, usage rights, and having created the engine?
Daniel Jackson
Member
That's some excellent news. The crouchjump moves bothered me in an otherwise excellent gaming experience.
BulletBees
Member
Played the free version when it originally came out and I just bought this version. Such an awesome way to play the first Half Life. I'm cool with supporting these dudes.
At the very least they would get writing, concept art and storyboard credit.
balladofwindfishes
Member
The multiplayer is a little rough.
The maps don't feel... right, they're really dark and I have a hard time figuring out where I am compared to where that place was on the old version. I kept getting lost on maps I had been on a million times
I also crashed when picking up a shotgun.
The maps don't feel... right, they're really dark and I have a hard time figuring out where I am compared to where that place was on the old version. I kept getting lost on maps I had been on a million times
I also crashed when picking up a shotgun.
Even if that was true, which it isn't because it's just a remake of a game by Valve, your grocery store doesn't grow the damn food on your table, and Amazon doesn't make the shit they ship you, but they still get a cut of the product price too.
Why do you think that is?
The auto crouch jump feature sounds good, but I'm much more interested in seeing the new AI in action. The aimbot AI was one of my biggest complaints about the original mod version. Hopefully the revision isn't such a step back from the original in this regard.
Robot Pants
Member
Which of these are currently out?
(Besides Xen obviously) or are they all coming at a later date?
balladofwindfishes
Member
Xen is the only thing from that list not out. The updated props and stuff are out and multiplayer is there.
Oh shit they've confirmed that you can change Vortiguant charge speed now (and tweaked it already); that was like my #1 issue outside the Marine balance as the old implementation completely ruined their role IMO. Hopefully it can be made difficulty dependant like the original too.
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TrAcEr_x90
Member
I decided to wait when I heard this would be an official Valve endorsed game through steam. I am definitely down to pay for it also. I heard they did a fantastic job from friends who have played the free version. I can't imagine the hardwork/love they put into this.
What happened to reading more thoroughly?
What's your point? They never plan to sell it until Valve give them permission to then they change their original plan because
"Our decision to sell Black Mesa rests on two key points. One is we believe we can make the game even better by having full access to the Source engine. This lets us tackle and fix limitations instead of working around them. The second is because frankly, our team could really use the financial help.". source
That being said, it doesn't change the fact that they going back on their words and the additional text you posted was added later in the wiki page so what happened with checking source before posting?
Wiki history can be found here : http://wiki.blackmesasource.com/index.php?title=General_FAQ&action=history
TrAcEr_x90
Member
You guys are seriously arguing having to pay for this version? They put in all that FREE work and let people play it already.
Krappadizzle
Member
The free version is floating out there in the ether if it isn't on Steam. I personally think it's funny to be upset over this, as why shouldn't these guys be paid for their work? I played the mod a few years ago when it released and was very impressed by the amount of effort and work that went into it. They updated and changed things for the better in quite a few ways. Music, sound effects, graphics, pacing were very much improved(mostly) in my opinion and it was fun to go back and play a WAAAYYYYY better looking version of Half-Life 1 that I hadn't played since I was 11. It was like my minds nostalgic memories version of a very dated looking game right in front of me but actually looks as good as I felt it did as an 11 y/o. It was pretty bad ass considering it didn't cost me a single cent to play.
They put a ton of effort into the remake and not a simple up-port or reskin and it shows. They deserve to be paid for that if you're interested in playing an even better(presumably) version of the game that came out 2 years ago. All that said, money is more focused on an eventual GPU upgrade(980 Ti) and I won't be picking this up immediately, but those interested should definitely at a minimum, download the mod from a few years ago and relive some memories. I'm more curious(as I haven't looked into it) as to whom from the original mod team is still around/on the team and what they've become since then. Are they now a studio?
They put a ton of effort into the remake and not a simple up-port or reskin and it shows. They deserve to be paid for that if you're interested in playing an even better(presumably) version of the game that came out 2 years ago. All that said, money is more focused on an eventual GPU upgrade(980 Ti) and I won't be picking this up immediately, but those interested should definitely at a minimum, download the mod from a few years ago and relive some memories. I'm more curious(as I haven't looked into it) as to whom from the original mod team is still around/on the team and what they've become since then. Are they now a studio?
Revenile
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It will be worth the money...once Xen is out. 2.5 years later and they redid what they had already... It's great that they improved what they had, but I've seen projects go into a never-ending loop of 'fixing the old' stuff and never finishing. $20 is fine for this, or it will be once it is finished. It's on my watch list and will be on my 'to-buy' list when xen is put into place. So...2017ish?
maniac-kun
Member
So which part is missing? Xen?
MiguelItUp
Member
Played multiplayer for a bit over an hour, had a good time! I wasn't having any issues, but it sounded like some other folks on the server were. So it's definitely a bit rough, but it's a lot of fun!
TrAcEr_x90
Member
Just xen from what I heard from friends
funkystudent
Member
Still no ETA on Xen?
But they added Deathmatch for some dumb reason?
Guess I will continue to hold off playing this.
But they added Deathmatch for some dumb reason?
Guess I will continue to hold off playing this.
CertifiedFP
Member
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
They "fixed" the Idiot Pipe that made DarkSydePhil famous.
...Well, I guess sacrifices had to be made now that this is a retail product. I'm going to miss seeing people get stuck on that.
They "fixed" the Idiot Pipe that made DarkSydePhil famous.
...Well, I guess sacrifices had to be made now that this is a retail product. I'm going to miss seeing people get stuck on that.
eot
Banned
That's a shame, because Surface Tension is one of the best chapters and the version in BM really felt like it was missing something. His uncut version hit the mark much better. On a Rail is actually a chapter I like too. Even though the trains are annoying, there arer some great firefights in there.
The main thing I hope they improve though is the HECU Grunts. Their hitscan mp5s made them no fun to fight, and their AI sadly didn't live up to HL1 either.
edit: saw the post on the last page, great
NinjamicWZ
Banned
It really is a pity about Surface Tension, jut bad timing with the mapper leaving the team.
I actually prefer the shorter On A Rail, the original was just looping sections and it was always terrible annoying when you would miss a turn signal and then have to loop all the way around whilst being shot at.
Robot Pants
Member
Wtf is HF3
Haha! Thank you for sharing that. Amazing.
I'll buy this to support the devs. MP sounds like it could be fun times as well.
Fallout-NL
Member
That trailer is really good. Great music too.
Anyone else playing the multiplayer? Feels a little janky to me, but the map layout is really good. I'm not a big fan of the default pistol but I suppose that's kinda the point. I feel like it needs some more game modes for it to really stand out, maybe capture the flag or something. At the moment it really does feel a bit bare bones.
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Deleted member 102362
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That whole "controversy" is coming back to me now. :lol
I bought in. I already played the mod version, but I really want to support the team any way I can. They truly put a lot of love into this (and mostly with their own money and free time).
Also bought Wolfenstein: Old Blood. I have way too many games to play and not nearly enough time. Maybe I should just use all of my vacation to stay in my room and play video games...
Also bought Wolfenstein: Old Blood. I have way too many games to play and not nearly enough time. Maybe I should just use all of my vacation to stay in my room and play video games...
Source's lip-sync algorithms still hold up very well, in my opinion:
https://youtu.be/P0Litjnd1Tg
https://youtu.be/P0Litjnd1Tg
Having a great time with this. Hard mode against soldiers feels much less aimbot-like.
Still love some of the custom effects, like the Garg fire and Bullsquid acid.
Plus the new MP5 is perfect. Pretty much all the weapons have great new animations.
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Pretty sure this is the Stanley Parable voice actor, he lets you in to the test chamber.
Still love some of the custom effects, like the Garg fire and Bullsquid acid.
Plus the new MP5 is perfect. Pretty much all the weapons have great new animations.
EDIT: ​
Pretty sure this is the Stanley Parable voice actor, he lets you in to the test chamber.
ZombieSupaStar
Member
I don't see an issue with the paid version. They get to sell it, make some money, have valves approval, access to the source engine code, upgrade the engine/models/etc.
And there is still a free version that is the majority of original mod for no cost.
And there is still a free version that is the majority of original mod for no cost.
dangerskew
Member
Bought, but I probably won't actually play it for some time. I played the mod version the day it came out and loved it; happy to finally give my money to this project, as it is very obviously a labor of love for the team.
ashecitism
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http://forums.blackmesasource.com/i...-early-access-title/?postID=607071#post607071
so the price may go up at release, but they haven't decided on that
edit: I see they updated the EA FAQ with this
so the price may go up at release, but they haven't decided on that
edit: I see they updated the EA FAQ with this
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CertifiedFP
Member
The bitching I see about Black Mesa going retail is pathetic. I mean, holy hell, I hate the word "Entitled" since I often see it used to silence people criticising genuinely greedy practices in the industry, but in this one particular instance...
Entitled.
Entitled.
CrAzY FiNgErS
Member
I agree 100%. This was known from the beginning that they were charging for the Steam edition. They deserve what ever money they can get for this awesome release. They have MP, Steam Workshop, and the promise of additional content down the line.
ashecitism
Member
Half-liFe 3. Seen it before. Some people when abbreviating Half-Life focus on the F for some reason.
Fallout-NL
Member
Awesome, I was hoping they would have an update for the MP5, I really didn't like the last one.
EDIT: ​​
Pretty sure this is the Stanley Parable voice actor, he lets you in to the test chamber.
I'm not 100% sure, but yep, he sounds very similar to the Stanely's deus ex machina.
The weapons are also so much better thanks to the new recoil system.
It's back to old school run and gun in the steam version.
Grunts are much improved too, more grenading and running, and less aimbot.
Apparently they got the same guy, Kevan Brighting!
jim-jam bongs
Member
Played a bit this morning, definitely worth the bucks. I like that Kleiner and Vance look like younger versions of their HL2 models, rather than muppets like in the original game.
ashecitism
Member
Jumped into the MP, played a couple of maps (a couple of devs were there), and it's pretty good. Need to get the feel for it and also tweak some stuff, but it's fun. This might be a good companion to Dirty Bomb.
Tomorrow will check out the SP.
Tomorrow will check out the SP.