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Black people and wrestling

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pnjtony

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I completely realize how un-PC this topic is but it's been eating at me for a few years.

Back when I kinda watched wrestling as a little kid (granted 1985-87) wrestling was fairly the hillbilly white trash form of entertainment. When I see it on TV now it still seems to have that same redneck appeal, yet there are so many more african-american fans and viewers. The few black people I know can't stand rednecks...so what gives?

Bruce Lee owns any wrestler
 

Zilch

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The few black people I know ARE rednecks.

But I guess that's what I get for growing up in a small town.
 

karasu

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I never understand why people bash wrestling, yet spend seven dollars to see the newest big dumb action movie. Any intellectual divide seen between those two forms of entertainment is imaginary.
 

hXc_thugg

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karasu said:
I never understand why people bash wrestling, yet spend seven dollars to see the newest big dumb action movie. Any intellectual divide seen between those two forms of entertainment is imaginary.

I hate wrestling and action movies equally.
 

Tabris

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karasu said:
I never understand why people bash wrestling, yet spend seven dollars to see the newest big dumb action movie. Any intellectual divide seen between those two forms of entertainment is imaginary.

Depends. If you mean something like XXX or 2 Fast 2 Furious. Then yes, it should be grouped with wrestling and neither should be watched.
 

Phoenix

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I used to watch wrestling - back during the "Junkyard Dog" days :) Once I found out it was fake, I just didn't care anymore.
 

KiNeSiS

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Boogie said:
Considering Bruce Lee is currently busy decomposing, I imagine he'd have a hard time owning anybody :p

He's to busy being seduced by maggots and worms to hear your pleas of OWNING a soul

Some Honkey killed him!

*poors a 40 out for the martial arts king*
 

KiNeSiS

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I also always wondered why there are historically few black wrestlers.....
I wondered more so why are there so few black champions World Heavy Weight champions. RACIST PROMOTERS!!!

DAMNIT The Worst racism is the lack of SICILIAN champs!!
 

J2 Cool

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wrestling's got too many plot holes :) No, seriously though, my problem with current wrestling is simply a lot of weak characters. I think the late 80's, early 90's gimmicks actually helped wrestling. I mean, sure, they were ridiculous but that was part of the fun. Building guys up to be invincible warriors and seeing who would stop them was what captivated me a lot of times. Undertaker's original run for instance. Fans wondering how you keep a guy like that down who's gimmick is to sit up and basically be unstoppable with the urn and Paul Bearer at ringside. Or having an insanely energetic guy like Warrior and pitting them against a fan favorite juggernaut like Hulk Hogan. Stuff like that was just so enjoyable.

You had guys as underdogs with a lot of heart. Fans would get behind em like crazy. 123 Kid vs. Razor Ramon for example. Or you pit someone unstoppable like Yokozuna vs. Undertaker. It was always fun imagining who would win and how. During Yokozuna's title run I kept wondering for the longest time who would stop him and how. I think sometimes you need that clear good vs. bad. When Stone Cold began the whole "Attitude" era and everything became these shades of grey, it was good for a change but it couldn't last.

To break captivating wrestling down to the most basic form. It's pitting built up forces vs other built up forces and seeing who comes out on top. At some point, wrestling brought itself down by trying to make a weekly convulted soap opera that they just couldn't mantain. Everything is just too weak. When you bend someone's character so much as they always do, it becomes paper thin. If anyone who used to watch wrestling were to tune it you'd ask who was facing who and then shrug with complete indifference. Meanwhile, put on an old tape from early 90's and I could get into it real quick. With the black and white characters it was so easy to join in. Now it's a headache to look at the wrestling scene.

You want a good storyline, you make something like Kane's arrival back in the day. Mysterious figure tearing up everyone. That stuff was good. You want brilliant, you take the nWo taking over a federation destroying everyone's next great hope of stopping it for the longest time, all the while gaining followers, and then have a lone dark figure end it, like Sting. That was amazing. But rehashing that stuff would be like making a Disney sequel. You're bound to wind up with shit. But you have to make it simple again and character driven. These days, I just can't watch wrestling.

Oh, and yeah, black people watch wrestling. It hasn't been strickly rednecks for a looong time. :)
 

NLB2

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pnjtony said:
Bruce Lee owns any wrestler
No.
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Alexander Karelin would toss Bruce Lee around like a sack of potatoes. Bruce Lee vs. Alexander Karelin would be one of the most brutal matches of all times.
If Gene La Bell beat Bruce Lee with his grappling Karelin would absolutely destroy Bruce Lee.
 

Agent Icebeezy

Welcome beautful toddler, Madison Elizabeth, to the horde!
I stopped caring about wrestling entirely when Yukes became the sole wrestling maker of videogames concerning the WWE
 

Boogie

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NLB2 said:
No.
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Alexander Karelin would toss Bruce Lee around like a sack of potatoes. Bruce Lee vs. Alexander Karelin would be one of the most brutal matches of all times.
If Gene La Bell beat Bruce Lee with his grappling Karelin would absolutely destroy Bruce Lee.

I think he meant any pro wrestler, but your point stands ;P
 

NLB2

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Boogie said:
I think he meant any pro wrestler, but your point stands ;P
OK. Then Ken Shamrock or Kazushi Sakuraba, and perhaps Brett Heart; he was a hell of a fighter as well. :)
 

hXc_thugg

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Boogie said:
I think he meant any pro wrestler, but your point stands ;P

I am a professional wrestler, and I could kick Bruce Lee's ass.

I am Dr. Death, and I am here to cure you of your life!
 

KiNeSiS

Banned
Doctor Death that dead beat dad, years ago it was on the news that he owed a ridiculous amount of back child support, for a kid he didn't know about.


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People at my old high school growing up would call me Ken Shamrock picture is old and may bring back nostalgia, or it may induce projectile vomit action.
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karasu

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Bruce Lee would stab Ken shamrock in the eye with a mirror. Wtf? You think he would fight someone twice his size hand to hand? Bruce lee wasn't an athlete, he was a violent violent man. Jesus. :lol
 

DarienA

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pnjtony said:
I completely realize how un-PC this topic is but it's been eating at me for a few years.

Back when I kinda watched wrestling as a little kid (granted 1985-87) wrestling was fairly the hillbilly white trash form of entertainment. When I see it on TV now it still seems to have that same redneck appeal, yet there are so many more african-american fans and viewers. The few black people I know can't stand rednecks...so what gives?

Bruce Lee owns any wrestler

You are a f'n idiot.
 
F

Folder

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I think what the problem here is:
People, irrespective of what colour their skin is, are just people.
So sometimes, more than one person will like something. These people might be of any colour. We are not of different species.
:)
 
this thread is pure ignorance....

Just taking a small segment of th epopulation from the local BW3 bar and gill I watch all the PPVs at, it's a very diverse crowd.

You still have the token rednecks, but they're there for football and NASCAR as well. But look at any wrestling crowd and it's a pretty diverse mix of people. All races and walks..

As long as it's somthing you enjoy, who cares?

I've been a fan for 20+ years, yes I know it's predetermined(not fake, see Cena's kick to Jesus's face from last night), I kow how it works backstage. But despite allthis I can enjoy it for what it is.

To me it's all about the in-ring story telling and a great athletic display. Using a match to tell a story from beginning to the end, something WWE has forgotten how to do.
 

Boogie

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KiNeSiS said:
Doctor Death that dead beat dad, years ago it was on the news that he owed a ridiculous amount of back child support, for a kid he didn't know about.


kenshamrock.jpg


kenshamrock.jpg


kenshamrockface.jpg


People at my old high school growing up would call me Ken Shamrock picture is old and may bring back nostalgia, or it may induce projectile vomit action.
461466952993s.jpg

Pfft, James Spader look-alikes >>> Ken Shamrock look alikes.
 
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