It's also important to note though that the attacker had bi-polar disorder, according to his uncle.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/u...-is-shot-dead-by-officer-during-break-in.html
Not like this, people.
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BLM supporter breaks into cop's house after an FB argument; gets shot dead
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It's also important to note though that the attacker had bi-polar disorder, according to his uncle.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/u...-is-shot-dead-by-officer-during-break-in.html
Not like this, people.
wesleyshark
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Breaking into someone's home is never a good idea. Good grief.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Shit is all bad.
Arrowgigantic
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The group did not work
He was bi-polar.
I have that and I flip shit like that too. It's not easy to deal with.
Lord Morairty007
Member
Not a smart idea for the guy to try to break in.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Bipolar people?
BibiMaghoo
Member
That is reasonable, sounds like he made efforts not to shoot the guy. In that situation I think it's acceptable, though I often wonder why more people don't shoot to incapacitate instead of to kill.
He had bi-polar disorder. I'm close to someone who has it so this doesn't shock me. The outcome is still sad.
Chie Satonaka
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Tragic, but unacceptable. It's a hot time for everybody right now, and breaking and entering is never a good ideas.
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Getting real tired of seeing this word in every thread as if somehow the people who have been victimized over police violence and injustice somehow need to be doing something different to get their oppressors to sympathize with them.
It takes two sides to unify, and you can't force the other side to do it. Stop saying this. It's empty phrasing.
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Oh, so he was bi-polar as well. This is like, every single thing that could have gone wrong going wrong at once.
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Getting real tired of seeing this word in every thread as if somehow the people who have been victimized over police violence and injustice somehow need to be doing something different to get their oppressors to sympathize with them.
It takes two sides to unify, and you can't force the other side to do it. Stop saying this. It's empty phrasing.
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Oh, so he was bi-polar as well. This is like, every single thing that could have gone wrong going wrong at once.
Lord Morairty007
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Me too but thankfully my friend who has it is on meds and doesn't use facebook. Social media makes it too easy to get into arguments.
I have an honest question - I do not live in the US, so please excuse my ignorance.
What does "BLM supporter" exactly mean? Black Lives Matter is a civil rights movement fighting for equality as far as I understand. Isn't...everyone who is not a racist supporter of inequality a Black Lives Matter supporter? Is that not a thing? I heard of some crazy people trying to attack BLM with this "All Lives Matter" bullshit but I always figured that was just the racist drivel of a few people you always hear of...and here we have a cop arguing with someone about the validity of BLM? Isn't that on itself kinda bad news?
But also, wow dude, way to prove some asshole's point by doing this. What the fuck. EDIT: Oh, he was mentally ill? Everything about this is terrible.
What does "BLM supporter" exactly mean? Black Lives Matter is a civil rights movement fighting for equality as far as I understand. Isn't...everyone who is not a racist supporter of inequality a Black Lives Matter supporter? Is that not a thing? I heard of some crazy people trying to attack BLM with this "All Lives Matter" bullshit but I always figured that was just the racist drivel of a few people you always hear of...and here we have a cop arguing with someone about the validity of BLM? Isn't that on itself kinda bad news?
But also, wow dude, way to prove some asshole's point by doing this. What the fuck. EDIT: Oh, he was mentally ill? Everything about this is terrible.
7DollarHagane
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It's not that easy to even hit a moving target at close range. It almost sounds like he shot through the door they were barricaded behind but the story isn't clear.
In my experience it means any black person that even remotely questions that police could do anything better than what they do now.
That's what it seems to mean more often than not. Hell pretty much any black person that dares stand up for themselves really.
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
You can kinda tell by going on his Facebook. This is a sad situation. Some posts are supporting cops, some are showing white people and black people hold hands, and some are:
"We winning this race war bitches cause the playing fields have been leveled"
I don't know if this is appropriate or not to post, if not please delete this. I didn't link to his facebook or take screens because I thought it might be a bit much.
Poor dude. Poor cop as well. To have to do that, he pretty much had his hand forced.
"We winning this race war bitches cause the playing fields have been leveled"
I don't know if this is appropriate or not to post, if not please delete this. I didn't link to his facebook or take screens because I thought it might be a bit much.
Poor dude. Poor cop as well. To have to do that, he pretty much had his hand forced.
7DollarHagane
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The argument over the movement is what started the incident in the first place. Omit that fact and you're wondering why he broke into a random police officers home and confronted them.
I wasn't trying to minimize that at all.
BinaryPork2737
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Yeah, but a title like "Bipolar man breaks into cop's house after BLM argument; gets shot dead" wouldn't get as many clicks. Gotta make sure to keep the bipolar bit out of the headline, would go against the narrative.
Even the article is guilty of this.
That tends to happen any time anyone commits a crime. Do they have a criminal record? If they committed a hate crime, is their a history of them saying racist things on social media, etc.
OP, why did you change the article title so much?
"NYT: MO Man Is Shot Dead by Officer During Break-In After Black Lives Matter Dispute" fits into the thread title and is much closer to the original than what you have in there.
An alternate thread title that seems more appropriate to the OP's framing is "(((BLM supporter))) breaks into cop's house after an FB argument; gets shot dead" which also fits.
Yeah, that's what it seems like.
"NYT: MO Man Is Shot Dead by Officer During Break-In After Black Lives Matter Dispute" fits into the thread title and is much closer to the original than what you have in there.
An alternate thread title that seems more appropriate to the OP's framing is "(((BLM supporter))) breaks into cop's house after an FB argument; gets shot dead" which also fits.
Yeah, that's what it seems like.
7DollarHagane
Banned
This is a very ignorant stance to take. would you call someone who reposts news stories about trump, or argues on Facebook for trump a "trump supporter"?
The term is very general but its appropriate for the story - a disagreement online sparked the face to face confrontation, unfortunately. That the subject of the disagreement was BLM is merely a fact of the story being reported. Unless you think that this should be omitted for some reason. What reason?
It's something like 75% of the way through.
7DollarHagane
Banned
It should be a bigger focus of the article and in the headline for sure. It seems like an attempt to capitalize on the recent events, not a good look for the times on this story..
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
I think that's just semantics. The motive was anger about an argument over BLM, and without that argument there's no motive. AKA randomly busting into a cops house.
It'll be brought up, there's nothing we can do about that. It's just unfortunate that that will be very much exploited by right wing media.
Yeah, that's like the trifecta of a bad time.
Yeah. In my opinion, the whole thing had less to do with the guy supporting BLM and more to do with his bi-polar illness. It should have been right there on the first sentence of the article. Something like,
"Gebhard, a BLM supported who suffered from bi-polar disorder, was shot and killed by off duty police officer after breaking in"
I mean, it's not that hard, and you get it out of the way that the dude was both and not have to wait until way down to see that "oh by the way, he was bipolar" after you've already gotten all kinds of pissed off. Seriously, that article is shitty and the author should be ashamed.
I didn't mean to come off as sensationalist but either way, this was a grave mistake on my part because I at the moment I made this thread, I was more concerned on putting this news up before carefully considering framing for a very heavy issue in terms of a thread title such as this one so both of you still have a point.
Therefore, I sincerely apologize for this and if the mods out there feel it needs to be changed then please do.
This is something easier said than done, sadly. Pinpoint shooting someone in the shoulder or the leg all the while you're going through an emotional rollercoaster with someone moving in on you isn't really practical. Plus, people are trained to shoot to kill. If you have to discharge your weapon you're suppose to with the full intent on killing, that's why gunfire is a last resort (or at least... suppose to be).
Vicetrailia
Banned
Terrible situation to be put in.
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