Steve Youngblood
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Yep, that NeoGAF guy certainly is a cynical asshole.Reznor said:
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Bloated, PR paste-bin |OT|s are a plague on these boards
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Drinky is the exception to the rule, though. If that type of behavior was tolerated outside of the handful of people with immunity (Astrolad, Wario64, Amir0x), it'd be annoying. It's basically become an inside joke at this point.jim-jam bongs said:
NOLF is one of my favorite all-time games, therefore I feel a strong kinship between us, brother.
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MrNyarlathotep
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iNvidious01 said:
So it displays fine on everything except the things it doesn't display fine on.
Gotcha.
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No true scotsman would have a problem with 1100 px wide pictures.
jim-jam bongs
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pakkit said:
Maybe the "inside" part should change? I dunno, I can't help but think that there are people who see the behaviour of Drinky, Wario and the Lad and think it's how they should act to get a name for themselves, rather than appreciating that it's a parody. Like I said, these are complex decisions!
pakkit said:
And now you're thinking about replaying it right?
m0dus said:
Other people have mentioned this as I'm still reading through this topic but I finally got to the tipping point here. Go into the AC OT and search for "release date"...
Now, I know it's in the first wall-of-image-text but that's only after I took the oath of the Assassin's or whatever to venture into this massive OP. The only OTs that need to be more than one post are the ones where it's a funny play on something in the game like the Portal 2 OT.
edit: If you're going to complain about the limit of text that you an fit into a post and are thus putting it on an image, please still put the important (zomg what is important to you isn't important to others!!!11) information in text so it can be searched.
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I agree, completely. I've been preaching this for years but long since gave up.
i always find it funny when gaf critises gaming journalists when we have OT threads that are basically pure PR and we attack journalists for negatively reviewing trendy game X. so yeah huge pr ops with shit loads of pointlessly huge images are definitely terrible and bad and rubbish and other negative adjectives.
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One of these names is not like the other onespakkit said:
One of these names doesn't belong
SatelliteOfLove
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Kintaro said:
Like I said, I was cool on the idea of a max length rule. It was a call for "less is more" around here, as I fear they're becoming pissing contests even more than information centers. Even further, I fear they're ratcheting upwards what an |OT| is in manys minds.
br0ken_shad0w
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At the very least, remove text in images. If the majority of your content consists of images, you have already failed. I don't mind the length, just let me easily get to where I want.
The Deus EX: HR OT from somethingawful is even more bloated than that Assassin's Creed OT. The difference being is that most of content is in plain, searchable text and there are headers on the first post you can easily click on to get to where you want. Here's the first post of the Deus EX OT for you non-goons (I'd post the rest of the OT, but fireshot is not cooperating with me): http://i.imgur.com/3xQ0a.jpg
The Deus EX: HR OT from somethingawful is even more bloated than that Assassin's Creed OT. The difference being is that most of content is in plain, searchable text and there are headers on the first post you can easily click on to get to where you want. Here's the first post of the Deus EX OT for you non-goons (I'd post the rest of the OT, but fireshot is not cooperating with me): http://i.imgur.com/3xQ0a.jpg
Just got done reading through this thread, a lot of useful info and tips. Helped me get ideas for next time i do a OP.
I personally don't see anything wrong with huge threads as long as they are accessible. Agreed with the fact that bodies of text on images is bad, but at the same time I can see why someone would do it from a design point of view. I did this on the story section of the Generations thread, I was trying to achieve a certain effect but it didn't even work out that well, never again!
On the Sonic Generations OT i was trying to keep the images from extending past a certain width, but the zones image for the HD version broke that limit sadly, and i didn't want to make the zone pictures any smaller then they already were. I also agree that the formatting of the thread was messed up like someone mentioned earlier in this thread, but I didn't notice until I had all the pictures uploaded... and just basically said screw it. I spent a lot of time making the thread and fixing up the images would of took even more time. I could of completely re-did the OP and fixed the issues I was having with it.. but like I said, it was a time thing.
I see making OT's as a good practice opportunity. Making graphics / layout about a game your interested in for practice? I don't think it can get much better then that.
Sonic Generations OT was the first OT I made and I plan to improve on the next OT I make based on what I have read in this topic.
I personally don't see anything wrong with huge threads as long as they are accessible. Agreed with the fact that bodies of text on images is bad, but at the same time I can see why someone would do it from a design point of view. I did this on the story section of the Generations thread, I was trying to achieve a certain effect but it didn't even work out that well, never again!
On the Sonic Generations OT i was trying to keep the images from extending past a certain width, but the zones image for the HD version broke that limit sadly, and i didn't want to make the zone pictures any smaller then they already were. I also agree that the formatting of the thread was messed up like someone mentioned earlier in this thread, but I didn't notice until I had all the pictures uploaded... and just basically said screw it. I spent a lot of time making the thread and fixing up the images would of took even more time. I could of completely re-did the OP and fixed the issues I was having with it.. but like I said, it was a time thing.
I see making OT's as a good practice opportunity. Making graphics / layout about a game your interested in for practice? I don't think it can get much better then that.
Sonic Generations OT was the first OT I made and I plan to improve on the next OT I make based on what I have read in this topic.
CoffeeJanitor
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FWIW I really like that OT. I think it uses the images in a tasteful way and you keep it nice and short.ShadiWulf said:
Boss Doggie
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Chinner said:
GAF has always been a melting pot of hypocrisies.
Humanity is. I wish people would stop pointing this shit out like it was some kind of revelation.Ookami-kun said:
Also, the GAF that complains about thing A and the GAF that nevertheless champions thing B are very likely different people. Groups have diverging opinions on things. Who knew?
Threads officially started eating its own asshole.
CoffeeJanitor
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People are different. So...Yeah.Chinner said:
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Honestly, some, if not many, of the OTs seem like commercials on the games instead of a place where people can find useful information about the games. I always dislike OTs with this kind of 'commercial vibe'.
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all my loli wolf companions are so moe
But yeah, I still go by with having set standards. Like I said before, they're no rules, but at least it gives an idea as to what to expect to a decent OT looks like.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=468217
Dat bloatness. It occupies like 85% of the first page :lol :lol :lol
Dat bloatness. It occupies like 85% of the first page :lol :lol :lol
Rahxephon91
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Might as well just copy and paste the DMC wikia at that point.
I mean Jesus fucking Christ. The ot decides to even reveal everything about the game. If a new person who say is interested in picking up the HD collection because of the reboot, well he's not going in fresh.
Urban Scholar
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Its sad when a fan puts hours and hours to an OT only to be put down because it is extremely bloated...
Well honestly it could've been avoided with proper thread editing/creation. We only need 2 posts max. Also when you have story/plot posted that seems to not serve the purpose of the thread.
notworksafe
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It's more sad when someone thinks six posts and preposterous walls of text are needed for an OT.Its sad when a fan puts hours and hours to an OT only to be put down because it is extremely bloated
EmCeeGramr
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justice
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Good work on shutting that down so soon.
BeautifulMemory
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Walls of texts that go in depth into gameplay, weapon, and enemy mechanics?
Its sad when a fan puts hours and hours to an OT only to be put down because it is extremely bloated
It's hours and hours of putrid upchuck.
Look, I've put forth some serious time and effort on some OPs, some of them multi-post.
The mark of a good OT is not its size. It's about being informational without being bloated. You need lots of good quality meat, not pounds of fat.
Its sad when a fan puts hours and hours to an OT only to be put down because it is extremely bloated
Should have put some more hours to do something called "editing."
The people have spoken. No one wants all that crap.
EmCeeGramr
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yes
it's a thread on a message board, not a wiki
you know how you can embed all that wiki knowledge in one place for a reader to peruse
link to a wiki
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Its sad when a fan puts hours and hours to an OT only to be put down because it is extremely bloated
It may be, but they need to remember that being concise is important and leave the giant shit to Wikia if people want to see everything like that.
notworksafe
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Link to it, don't post it in the thread itself.
I was so going to commence the mocking and the what the fuckery for the necro bump but by the unholy shit balls of hoggoth!!
Rahxephon91
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Why does a a OT need walls of text about that? How about people just play the game and find out on their own? The discussion will eventually talk about that stuff anyway. I mean did we really need boss profiles? OTs aren't guides.
Its sad when a fan puts hours and hours to an OT only to be put down because it is extremely bloated
It's sad when someone does more marketing then the company producing the product for free.
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