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Jonnyram said:
Wow... this is really bad news for Sony next-gen.
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We really know nothing yet, and its still my opinion that the xbox 360 will still tremendously bomb in japan, no mater the lineup.. we shall see.
After bombing, will japaneese developers stay? That is the question.
 
Jump = Manga company that owns Dragon Ball correct? or something like that (I get confused :()
 
Suikoguy said:
We really know nothing yet,
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except that Sakaguchi will be releasing two RPGs, one like FF and one like DQ. Having Toriyama on board makes the DQ-like one REALLY like DQ. The public will lap it up.
 
Jonnyram said:
except that Sakaguchi will be releasing two RPGs, one like FF and one like DQ. Having Toriyama on board makes the DQ-like one REALLY like DQ. The public will lap it up.
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Yeah, as we know all Dragon Quest Spins offs sell like Dragon Quest.
 
Jonnyram said:
This is not a spin off.
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Ok, so your saying people will buy the xbox 360 in droves in japan, simply cause he is making art for a game called blue dragon?

Keeping in mind the regular xbox bombed horribly, and this still has the name xbox.
 
Suikoguy said:
Ok, so your saying people will buy the xbox 360 in droves in japan, simply cause he is making art for a game called blue dragon?
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Yes.

Keeping in mind the regular xbox bombed horribly, and this still has the name xbox.
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If there is a proven reason why Xbox failed in Japan, I'd like to hear it. But one theory is that it offered nothing above the PS2. If this releases first, with a game like Dragon Quest, it's big news.
 
super-heated plasma said:
I am not sure what to do with this information.
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Haha.

Anyway, nothing about that scan looks in any way interesting, and I don't particularly hate Toriyama. Especially the logo. Have to see actual, in-game screens.
 
Hmm, interesting. Too bad there's not in-game art/screenshots.

edit: haha the logo looks like what would happen if Toriyama tried to make an Amano/FF logo. yuck.
 
I've never seen a sequal to a failure succeed, perhaps they will proove me wrong.
 
Jonnyram said:
Yes.

If there is a proven reason why Xbox failed in Japan, I'd like to hear it. But one theory is that it offered nothing above the PS2. If this releases first, with a game like Dragon Quest, it's big news.
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I thought the #1 reason after game selection was that you couldn't stack shit on it/ and the size. Those were interchangable.
 
"Xbox 2 needs more japanese support!"

*gets support*

"... that'll make no difference/ it's the _wrong_ type of support / etc..."

Time to face it, the Xbox 360 is going to have much better Japanese dev support this time around. Whether this translates to massive sales is up for debate, but i'd say that the lack of local support was the number ONE reason that Xbox failed here.
 
Agent Icebeezy said:
I thought the #1 reason after game selection was that you couldn't stack shit on it/ and the size. Those were interchangable.
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Also a possibility. But whatever the complaints were, it's pretty sure that MS is doing everything possible to rectify every single one of them.
 
This is really, really huge news in Japan and anyone who says otherwise is living in the land of fanboy denial!

This is a game from Sakaguchi (creator of Final Fantasy) and Akira Toriyama (most popular manga-ka and artist for Dragon Quest).

The last game time the two of them collaborated on was something called CHRONO TRIGGER, which I personally think is overrated but a lot of people can't stop calling the best game ever.

In any case, Sakaguchi is getting the band back together!
 
DCharlie said:
"Xbox 2 needs more japanese support!"

*gets support*

"... that'll make no difference/ it's the _wrong_ type of support / etc..."

Time to face it, the Xbox 360 is going to have much better Japanese dev support this time around. Whether this translates to massive sales is up for debate, but i'd say that the lack of local support was the number ONE reason that Xbox failed here.
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Yup, time to quote Chespace for this one

MS really has learned from their past mistakes

As each announcement from them comes forth, this pops into my head more and more. Things like this only reinforce the notion. I sense fear masked as confidence in some these posts I've read lately. Like talking about the 360 in terms of it being a second DC will make it become reality. I mean, at this point in the Xbox 1 life, we saw that bullshit Raven and robot demo, 360 has already gone above and beyond that. I think non-believers are in for a rude awakening.........
 
Jonnyram said:
Also a possibility. But whatever the complaints were, it's pretty sure that MS is doing everything possible to rectify every single one of them.
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Well, I guess we can throw the stackable idea out the window :lol

But seriously, if they wanted to have a sucessful market in japan, it should have started a couple years ago with the current xbox. With at least some additional japaneese support. Then perhaps there might be a possiblity that, with additional support going into the next console, that it might be more sucessfull then the original.

But in this situation, MS gave up on their first project there. The xbox became the DOA box in japan, in more the one way. I just don't, without a miracle, see the Xbox 360 doing all that much better in japan. Especially after PS3 is unveiled.

Can anybody cite an example of which a sequal to a total failure in the same named product line succeeded?
 
But people buy a system, primarily for the software. If they are able to hit the new XBOX with a shit-ton of appealing games that you can't get anywhere else, who fucking cares if the predecessor failed. Hell, it's a miracle that MS even bothers to release shit there on the system, yet they still do.

So you can't be successful with a follow up to a bonafide failure? OK.... You want an example? Look at the oh-so fucking god-awful sales of the Master System and Mega Drive in Japan. Yet, when both the Saturn and Dreamcast released, they sold very well there. Your theory = wrong.
 
Suikoguy said:
Can anybody cite an example of which a sequal to a total failure in the same named product line succeeded?
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You had to phrase that very carefully to exclude the Genesis didn't you :lol.

Yeah, and Windows is one example. Bombed (hard) until 3.0.
 
Suikoguy said:
Well, I guess we can throw the stackable idea out the window :lol

But seriously, if they wanted to have a sucessful market in japan, it should have started a couple years ago with the current xbox. With at least some additional japaneese support. Then perhaps there might be a possiblity that, with additional support going into the next console, that it might be more sucessfull then the original.

But in this situation, MS gave up on their first project there. The xbox became the DOA box in japan, in more the one way. I just don't, without a miracle, see the Xbox 360 doing all that much better in japan. Especially after PS3 is unveiled.

Can anybody cite an example of which a sequal to a total failure in the same named product line succeeded?
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Lets all spell it out;

Games that interest japanese gamers = sales

Microsoft had what 3 games that japanese people wanted this gen ?
 
This is big. EVERYONE reads Jump... and I am pretty sure this is the first time an Xbox title of any sort has debuted in this magazine.

Couple that with the big name collaboration, the fact that famitsu is devoting quite a bit of coverage to the developers signed on to xbox 2 (I cant stop seeing miz in that magazine), and the industrial design that does not look like a brick and MS is in for a much better ride this time.

If they hold the launch until one of the big games is done, even if it puts them head to head with a PS3 launch, I think it will do them a great deal of good. The name wont sell the machine here, but a killer app will. It would be a fool's folly to release it soft.

They wont beat sony, but I think exceeding Nintendo's next-gen console marketshare in Japan is reasonable if slightly optimistic.
 
The Genesis/Mega Drive floundered in Japan, and was beat handily by the SNES. Sega had little mindshare in Jpan. Sonic continues to sell bad there.

The Saturn sold very nicely in Japan, although it floundered here. Software sales were a little *meh* but overall it did great. Not PS2 great but nice still. Better than Genesis.
 
PC Gaijin said:
You had to phrase that very carefully to exclude the Genesis didn't you :lol.

Yeah, and Windows is one example. Bombed (hard) until 3.0.
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Windows = Tottally new area.

But anyway, hopefully the competition prooves to be better for us gamers.
I just don't see it playing out as some here are expecting.
 
hooray! whether or not X360 is a big hit in japan or not, this should be a more interesting console war, and that's good for everyone. what's there to complain about?
 
ferricide said:
hooray! whether or not X360 is a big hit in japan or not, this should be a more interesting console war, and that's good for everyone. what's there to complain about?
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For some, the fact that certain consoles aren't getting these games instead.
 
As ferr pointed out to me and I am stealing to point out here: MS last generation would never have thought to debut in Jump.

This game is being marketed as a Sakaguchi/Toriyama collaboration first, as a Japanese shonen RPG second, and as an Xbox 360 title third, if at all.

This is a smarter Microsoft, and this will be a better war.
 
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