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Brett Ratner to direct Xman 3
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robertsan21
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he did a great job with rush hour, i know its a totaly diffrent kind of film but non the less this guy has talant.
i think its a good choice and besides no matter who they choose as the director, people will complain over and over again that the new director will fuck up the film, just as people did when avid choose Brian singer to direct Xman.
wait until you guys have seen the film then you can start complaining if you didnt like it.
but i think haters will be going like this after they have seen the film.
"yeah man Brett is the man, nobody else could have directed this film better than he did, Avid choose the right director for this film!"
i think its a good choice and besides no matter who they choose as the director, people will complain over and over again that the new director will fuck up the film, just as people did when avid choose Brian singer to direct Xman.
wait until you guys have seen the film then you can start complaining if you didnt like it.
but i think haters will be going like this after they have seen the film.
"yeah man Brett is the man, nobody else could have directed this film better than he did, Avid choose the right director for this film!"
To me this is good news.... I'm a big fan of his movies (one of my favourite directors), and think he's a fantastic storyteller. Ideas for a story, though? Not so good. He's awesome at telling other people's stories, and if his commentaries are anything to judge by, he needs an entourage of people with good ideas to really help him shine.
The Bookerman
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aintitcool....
Damnit, DIE ALREADY.
Brett Ratner? Meh.
don't have an opinion on him.
Damnit, DIE ALREADY.
Brett Ratner? Meh.
don't have an opinion on him.
ManaByte
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robertsan21 said:
Avid? Since when does the editing equipment select the director?
No one really had a big problem with Singer. Everyone knew he was a good director from Usual Suspects, and he was very open in saying that he never read the X-Men comics but understood the story behind the mythos and that Donner's Superman was one of the reasons he wanted to do a superhero movie (and is why he's doing Superman Returns right now). Everyone was looking forward seeing if he could do a good comic movie because before then it was over twenty years since Donner's Superman. People were pleasently surprised that X-Men didn't suck as much as it could've.
On the other hand, Ratner is a vanity director. He was only doing the dogshit J J Abrams Superman script to make a name for himself because he didn't know jack shit about the material, and X3 is obviously the same thing. He wants to be behind a big-name movie and snag a decent paycheck out of it to get himself better work outside of cookie-cutter New Line fare like After the Sunset. He tried it with Red Dragon, but failed and he's hoping X3 will.
Expect to see a BS interview from him in the future where he'll claim to have a copy of X-Men #1 framed on his wall; just like he said back when he was attached to Superman.
robertsan21
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ManaByte said:
i thought avid had a big part in picking out the directors for the marvel films?
but i guess i was wrong....
who wouldnt want to do big-name movies?
Its hollywood, every director wants to do big-name movies.
anyway personally i like what i am hearing, i am sure Brett will do fine as director of Xman 3.
X-Man?
AICN's story hints have me curious -- three major characters die? I can only fathom they're referring to something like Cyclops, Jean Grey, Iceman; which would be so laughable that I almost wish they'd do it. Although I don't buy the whole "die die" thing. Any astute reader of comics, Marvel in particular, should know that no one really dies.
Rogue sleeps with Iceman, and after getting the deep 9 from him, she saps all his life force out via his wang. After rolling his dead body off of her, Wolverine sees what she did and stabs her AGAIN. You KNOW Storm is gonna die, cuz Halle doesn't need to be in the movies anymore. Nor does she want to be in them (Thats the funny thing about 'stars'... they like to 'star' in films... not 'co-star').
Who else will die? Its iffy. Magneto? Prof X? That girl who runs through walls? TEH SUSPENS!!1E
OR-- they kill storm, cyclops, and rogue... paving the way for WOLVERINE, THE MOVIE!
Who else will die? Its iffy. Magneto? Prof X? That girl who runs through walls? TEH SUSPENS!!1E
OR-- they kill storm, cyclops, and rogue... paving the way for WOLVERINE, THE MOVIE!
heavy liquid
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Ugh.. I like the Rush Hour movies, but I'm not too keen on him directing the X-Men. I haven't seen Red Dragon, though, but seem to remember that it got mixed reviews. Anyone here like it?
robertsan21
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heavy liquid said:
Red dragon was ok, i just wish that they had made the guy who was the killer a bit more creepy!
but othewise i liked the first viewing of the film the second viewing made me feel abit bored.
robertsan21 said:
You're thinking of Avi Arad methinks. Avid is an editing suite.
Back on topic, I don't like this news one bit. Ratner's fine for the big action, no brains Rush Hour films, but when you're tackling something like X-Men, which has a huge fan base and a huge backstory, you're going to have to know your shit if you wanna tackle these films properly.
I don't think Bret Ratner knows his shit unfortunately
robertsan21
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but its not 100% that he will take the director chair, John Moore is also a potential suspect
FortNinety
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What, Uwe Boll not available or something?
Kung Fu Jedi
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I already had low expectations for X-Men 3. This just pretty much seals the deal.
Kung Fu Jedi
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Mugen said:
Oh yes it can. And it's about to...
Warm Machine
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Ratner is fine. I don't understand why people don't like him.
Is it only because he just suddenly appeared one day and made 200 mil off Rush Hour?
Is it only because he just suddenly appeared one day and made 200 mil off Rush Hour?
Warm Machine said:
... because he's not very good?
You could've plugged any generic director in that movie and it would've still made $200 million. That really isn't a movie you look at and go, "Wow, what a great directorial job!"
EDIT: Meant director, not actor. My bad, homes.
Warm Machine
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I don't agree that he is not very good. Even though the script for After the Sunset was flawed it was still pretty watchable and enjoyable. Family Man was pretty good and quite different from what I was expecting it to be like. Red Dragon was well made as well.
I did think Rush Hour was a poor mans Jackie Chan movie but I don't know if I can pin that on Ratner as the studio were piss scared of Jackie doing anything himself.
There isn't anything in his style that stands out or makes him unique but it isn't like he is consitently bad or delivers on an amateur level.
I did think Rush Hour was a poor mans Jackie Chan movie but I don't know if I can pin that on Ratner as the studio were piss scared of Jackie doing anything himself.
There isn't anything in his style that stands out or makes him unique but it isn't like he is consitently bad or delivers on an amateur level.
Prince of Space
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As far as the cast goes, who's coming back for X3?
*shrugs*
Ratner's a competent director in my mind. He doesn't really have a style or do anything risky, but I wouldn't say he's bad by any means. He doesn't strike me as a guy who would elevate a script, but neither would he reduce it to crap. Give him a good script and hopefully we'll get a good movie.
I kinda doubt it'll beat X2, but I think only Singer could have done that, at least with where the plots were going. He had some personal investment there and really elevated the material.
Ratner's a competent director in my mind. He doesn't really have a style or do anything risky, but I wouldn't say he's bad by any means. He doesn't strike me as a guy who would elevate a script, but neither would he reduce it to crap. Give him a good script and hopefully we'll get a good movie.
I kinda doubt it'll beat X2, but I think only Singer could have done that, at least with where the plots were going. He had some personal investment there and really elevated the material.
Kung Fu Jedi
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teiresias said:
Yeah, cos a guy with an underwear ad as HIS avatar is way more qualified.
Yeah, Singer did a good job of surprising me with how good his moments were. The trailer just had a string of "holy shit" moments and it was awesome to see them play out, especially the first time in a packed theater. Though his Cyclops was a piece of shit though. Still, he did X-men fans justice and a little more. Hopefully Ratner's flick has some moments too.
Kung Fu Jedi
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teiresias said:Keep up with the times!!!!!!
:lol :lol :lol
Warm Machine
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Willco said:
No I didn't. I described someone who is good just not great.
Super Hero films hardly ever attract A level director talent anyway. Donner was a nobody in film when Superman got greenlit, Raimi was on a downward slide when he was attached to Spiderman, Burton sucks no matter which way you look at it and he got Batman, Singer had a mild success and a failure before X-Men.
Following this Ratner should fit right in. He can tell a story beginning to end in a competent way. He knows how to stage action, play humor, work with actors, and he is comfortable with bigger budgets. He also is good with lensing shots and working with cinematographers. As long as the script is good and he doesn't have to think too much to cover any flaws in the material he'll do just fine.
Sure it would be nice to get Cameron, Scott, Spielberg, Fincher, or any other top talent but they are too busy chasing ideas of their own to waste their time on something like a comic book movie where they aren't invested in the stories or characters.
Warm Machine
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Last time we had directors who were super passionate about the material and tried forever to get the films off the ground we were served up two special treats...
first was Dare Devil which was average and second was Dungeons and Dragons which was incredibly awful.
first was Dare Devil which was average and second was Dungeons and Dragons which was incredibly awful.
sans_pants
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the xmen movies have been meh so far
citrus lump
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if rogue loses her powers, then she can ride iceman. theres two down. as for the deaths, I bet one is a new character(beast,shadowcat,angel) one is storm, and I suppose a villian(juggernaut,magneto,pyro or mystique) my 2 cents.
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