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[Gabriel_Logan]

Never again was supreme bullshit.

 

[hirokazu]

Ugh. Chills. No child should have to ever experience those kind of horrors. People in general, really but especially children.

I just can't imagine anybody going and murdering young children and thinking "this is the right thing to do." Sif you wouldn't "nope" yourself outta there.

Whenever your side becomes complicit in killing children, and even justifying it, you've picked the wrong side.

 

[ebullientprism]

Posted about that above. Basically the government roots citizenship in explicit ethnic terms, and the Rohingya are considered outside of that, due to presumptions of their ancestry coming from India instead.

Ironically (and callously) the current hard right leaning Indian government is trying to deport the Rohingyas back using the same old "security threat" excuse that Trump pulled with his ban. The Supreme court is trying to get the government to give clarifications but looks grim.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...-to-myanmar/story-ur2fftkyzK6inNYyx6wlDM.html

 

[Joeytj]

That wouldn't convince a corporation like CNN, as tragic as that fact is. There is little to be gained financially from highlighting these despicable war crimes, as far as too many news outlets are concerned, as it's too esoteric a link to their viewers as to how such crimes took place, and how it relates to America. Odds are it would be buried by whatever the piss-loving demagogue last tweeted about, since that's easier to digest than actual genocide unfolding before our eyes.

Then again, there's absolutely no chance the world will hear about killings like this if there isn't even an attempt at engaging the likes of CNN. It would no doubt affect people to see it, rather than read it.

There's no need to shit on CNN. They've given plenty of coverage to the issue, as much as one can expect from an American news company.

I don't doubt that if images of beheaded children make it out of Burma from this, it would pop up in the news.

 

[JonnyDBrit]

Ironically (and callously) the current hard right government is trying to deport the Rohingyas back using the same old "security threat" excuse that Trump pulled with his ban. The Supreme court is trying to get the government to give clarifications but looks grim.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...-to-myanmar/story-ur2fftkyzK6inNYyx6wlDM.html

Jesus. They really are one of the most unwanted ethnic groups in the world, huh? Can't imagine being stuck like that.

 

[umop_3pisdn]

isn't there a lot of ancestor and/or idol worship in the non pure buddhist denominations?

Chinese Buddhism is arguably more syncretic (via Confucian and Daoist influence), than not, yeah. But even in that case I don't think that ancestor worship or even figures like bodhisattvas approach anything like what the west tends to have in mind with God (which is usually more of an absolute and eternal ground-of-being).

 

[DrunkShogun]

non white lives are just worth less in the west. Yemen has been in a humanitarian crisis for awhile now but it barely gets any coverage. Compare the coverage of harvey with the amount of coverage the floodings in south asia got.


isn't there a lot of ancestor and/or idol worship in the non pure buddhist denominations?

It's the sad truth. If this was occurring in a western nation you wouldn't be able to avoid hearing about it. Harvey has been terrible but it really pales in comparison to how devastating south Asian flooding can be. They're usually poor nations as well so forget a swift recovery for them as well.

 

[E-Cat]

The same way it's always done.

"God approved of it. What we did was righteous."

It's certainly the only way without being a psychopath.

 

[mieumieu]

The first time I hear about Rohingya people about 3 years ago, one Internet historian I respected in my country bashed them for their alleged extremism. I was skeptical.

Then I hear him peddle fake news about immigration crimes in Sweden and other European countries.

Then I hear him go full on anti Muslim. I unfollowed him and lost all respect in him.

Now I see this... wtf?? How would he explain this?

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Also it seems a certain Nobel Peace Prize winner has become a milkshake duck. 😟 again.

 

[Aki-at]

Been hearing about this stuff from time to time thanks to the Bengali channels covering it.

Absolutely terrible, I'm hoping Bangaldesh can help whoever make it out alive but being a poor and overpopulated country (Last I checked about 160 million) hope it doesn't put too much strain, the country doesn't have the infrastructure for mass immigration.

Wish there was more coverage of this

 

[DrSlek]

Been hearing about this stuff from time to time thanks to the Bengali channels covering it.

Absolutely terrible, I'm hoping Bangaldesh can help whoever make it out alive but being a poor and overpopulated country (Last I checked about 160 million) hope it doesn't put too much strain.

Wish there was more coverage of this

I read this morning that Turkey has asked Bangladesh to open its borders and they'll pay for it.

I wonder how successful that will be.

 

[michaelius]

I just can't imagine anybody going and murdering young children and thinking "this is the right thing to do." Sif you wouldn't "nope" yourself outta there.

Whenever your side becomes complicit in killing children, and even justifying it, you've picked the wrong side.

It's what German soldiers did during WWII , it's what ISIS does currently - humans can justify any act of bestiality apparently as disgusting as it is.

 

[Royal_Phalanx]

Can we somehow put Aung Sang Suu Kyi and the rest of the Burmese government in the Hague for crimes against humanity? She is complicit in this, 100%.

 

[Mulligan]

The human species..

 

[Chaos2Frozen]

Can we somehow put Aung Sang Suu Kyi and the rest of the Burmese government in the Hague for crimes against humanity? She is complicit in this, 100%.

You and what army?

That's the problem.

 

[Oberon]

Sadly it's actually better that Trump stays silent on this issue.

He would say the worst thing possible if he actually spoke to what is going on and would probably blame the victims.

"There are good and bad people on both sides"

What a horrible tragedy that just gets ignored. Show's you how much the World cares about defeating "evil" and the life of innocents when it's happening far away enough or doesn't directly profit them.

 

[qcf x2]

I read about this months back but I'm still kind of in shock at how horrible the situation is there. I can never understand how supposed watchdog nations can allow ethnic cleansing to happen in the 21st century.

 

[Spoiled Milk]

It's still disgusting. It's not just this tho, it's years of tensions, racism and discrimination towards Muslims inside a Buddhist majority nation.

Try centuries. The Bamar view Burma as their nation. Rohingya are seen as dirty, uncivilized squatters on their land. The military keeps talking about a "solution" to the "problem" - it's blatantly forced relocation or genocide.

 

[IdreamofHIME]

Not many care about this corner of the Earth and the human rights crisis going on.

The Burmese army is carrying out genocide.
The Thai army is locking up journalists and politicians they don't agree with while securing power even after 'free' elections.
The Cambodian government just shut down the last remaining non independent newspaper after jailing the leader of the opposition.
The Philippines elected a psycho war lord with high popularity.
The Vietnamese leaders are locking up people who criticize the government on Facebook.

The whole of South-East Asia is in trouble and no one cares until it's too later we end up with another killing Fields.

Sadly it's actually better that Trump stays silent on this issue.

He would say the worst thing possible if he actually spoke to what is going on and would probably blame the victims.

Can't say anything more insulting than Hilary and Obama visiting while this shit was going on.

 

[Joeytj]

Try centuries. The Bamar view Burma as their nation. Rohingya are seen as dirty, uncivilized squatters on their land. The military keeps talking about a "solution" to the "problem" - it's blatantly forced relocation or genocide.

Yeah, no doubt it's not just years, poor choice of wording.

Not making excuses for Burma, but we sometimes forget that, despite Aung San Suu Kyi's high profile and activism, the country for years was a Southeast Asia version of North Korea, and a lot of problems lead to that.

The fact that some people are awarded for their work in bringing peace in one area or aspect, they aren't necessarily flawless or without the beliefs or sins of their own country.

It wouldn't surprise me if Aung San Suu Kyi has held the same prejudices as the rest of her country for years, or at least, never thought she would have to deal with the problem.

 

[K.Jack]

Fuck outta here. Are you saying atheist, communist governments did not butcher children? Khmer Rouge?

No, I'm not saying that.

We cleared that up quickly, didn't we?

 

[SRG01]

Not really. Different schools of Buddhism can differ on a lot, but reifying some kind of absolute ground of being isn't something that any can really get away with. God can't really be a thing in Buddhism for the same reason that anicca essentially always has to be a thing in Buddhism.

But you don't need God for this kind of prejudice.

God-like beings are definitely a thing in Buddhism. Go look up Pure Land Buddhism, Tibetan Buddhism, and so forth.

Buddhism as a whole is a highly syncretised religion, and can incorporate itself into local cultures and folk religions. As for the relevance to this thread, there are elements of Shamanistic Buddhism within Burma.

 

[Paquete_PT]

A terrible and evil country. Don't know how they can just get away with it.

Have you been there? I've met a lot of nice, friendly and peaceful people there. Myanmar is filled with lots of different ethnicities and religions, that alone is a pot full of conflict waiting to happen. The horrible acts described in this thread are done by a ver minority of the population.
To call an entire country "terrible and evil" because of the doings of a few is naive and unfair.

The situation is heartbreaking.

 

[KillLaCam]

Years ago I could have never guessed that Aang Suu Kyi would be silent on a huge thing like this.

 

[theignoramus]

So Aung San Suu Kyi is as much of a fraud of a Peace Prize winner as Henry Kissinger? Quite the tainted legacy that award has.

 

[umop_3pisdn]

God-like beings are definitely a thing in Buddhism. Go look up Pure Land Buddhism, Tibetan Buddhism, and so forth.

Buddhism as a whole is a highly syncretised religion, and can incorporate itself into local cultures and folk religions. As for the relevance to this thread, there are elements of Shamanistic Buddhism within Burma.

Sure, but any of the panegyrics you would apply to those god-like beings are inherently constrained by the presence of the unconditioned/nibbana within the same philosophy. Compared to a western metaphysics that emphasizes existence, the Buddhist metaphysics is like a complete inversion. The moment that Buddhism crosses that threshold is basically the moment it reverts to Brahmanism or something.

Obviously there's nothing that requires that a religion be internally consistent, but even anthropologically you won't tend to find Buddhism really reifying things in the way that some other religions will tend to. Sometimes they get close, I know that Vajrayana has some concepts that are very close to a ground-of-being, for example, but even then there's always these conditionals put on it to try to avoid the apparent contradiction.

 

[Hasphat'sAnts]

She's in good company given that Yasser Arafat's won the award.

 

[theignoramus]

We've seen this story over and over again...in Bosnia, in Rwanda, in Chechnya. When the bodies start piling up by the thousands, nobody can plead ignorance and say "we didnt know"... may their souls burn in hell if they do.

 

[MaxDOL]

Yet another fuck up caused by former British empire.
When the British controlled Burma they bring the Rohingya from British India to work as labor.
That why the Burmanes do not consider them as the same country men.

To be fair the Rihingya are not the only minority that the Burmanese army are currently attack.
Unlike Rohingja other minorities militia have some support from other countries(China,Thailand,USA) so they can defend themselves better against Burmanese army.

 

[supermarioworldE]

This is beyond evil and sickening. I cant even put the words together to describe what should happen to such hate filled savages.

R.I.P to the victims.

Jesus Christ.

 

[Sunster]

Not many care about this corner of the Earth and the human rights crisis going on.

The Burmese army is carrying out genocide.
The Thai army is locking up journalists and politicians they don't agree with while securing power even after 'free' elections.
The Cambodian government just shut down the last remaining non independent newspaper after jailing the leader of the opposition.
The Philippines elected a psycho war lord with high popularity.
The Vietnamese leaders are locking up people who criticize the government on Facebook.

The whole of South-East Asia is in trouble and no one cares until it's too later we end up with another killing Fields.




Can't say anything more insulting than Hilary and Obama visiting while this shit was going on.

And it's the slavery capital of the world.

 

[rSpooky]

Humanity is so full of fuckery. All this insane evil and hatred..

 

[IdreamofHIME]

And it's the slavery capital of the world.

It's a lot things, but that one's not true. China and India have that particular nasty locked down tight.

 

[Laughing Banana]

Inalillahi wa inailaihi rajiun...

Suu Kyi can just fuck off with her silence regarding this matter. Nobel peace my arse.

 

[Ogodei]

She's foreign minister for the government. As far as can be told, she's not speaking out against this shit, or doing anything to try and protect these people. She actively tries to dismiss reports of human rights abuses in her country. This is without even going into her apparent prejudice against muslims.

She's complicit.

She's actually banned from being President, part of the agreement for the military junta to relinquish power and hold fair elections (they sort of stepped down in 2011, but made sure that their Solidarity Union party controlled the government until 2016).

 

[HighResTomato]

Where them sanctions at? Oh yeah they got lifted.

Fucking cunts

 

[BladeoftheImmortal]

Fuck outta here. Are you saying atheist, communist governments did not butcher children? Khmer Rouge?

Religions make it easier.

 

[BajiBoxer]

This seems relevant:

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22356306

But however any religion starts out, sooner or later it enters into a Faustian pact with state power. Buddhist monks looked to kings, the ultimate wielders of violence, for the support, patronage and order that only they could provide. Kings looked to monks to provide the popular legitimacy that only such a high moral vision can confer.

The result can seem ironic. If you have a strong sense of the overriding moral superiority of your worldview, then the need to protect and advance it can seem the most important duty of all.

Christian crusaders, Islamist militants, or the leaders of "freedom-loving nations", all justify what they see as necessary violence in the name of a higher good. Buddhist rulers and monks have been no exception.

It gives an idea on how these genocides come about, and shows this ethnic cleansing has been occuring on a smaller scale for awhile now.

 

[AcademicSaucer]

Yep, it's disappointing and saddenning how little coverage it's gotten.

Monsters, the lot of these horrid folks.

There is nothing to gain there, remember rwanda

I almost want someone to take pics and videos of beheaded children and send them to CNN. That's the only way to get attention.

If the Myanmar goverment is paying for content on CNN they aren't going to do it like they buried the atrocities in Bahrain.

 

[umop_3pisdn]

This seems relevant:

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22356306



It gives an idea on how these genocides come about, and shows this ethnic cleansing has been occuring on a smaller scale for awhile now.

That seems like an accurate and fair way of understanding this sort of phenomenon.

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

Never again was supreme bullshit.

*Only for white non-muslims.

 

[Staccat0]

How in the fuck a person could live with themself after doing that to a child, or giving the order to, is absolutely beyond me. Absolutely disgusting.

It's the logical conclusion to demonizing and dehumanizing people for generations.

 

[RS4-]

It's unreal that this part of the world is continuously fucked beyond belief and not much progress has been made to fix it.

 

[lupinko]

Not just any Nobel prize, either. The Peace prize. She was the youngest ever recipient of said honor.


Can Scott Pruitt win the Goldman Environmental Prize? That sounds right up his alley.
And Ben Carson can win the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine.
And Betsy DeVos can be named a Nobel laureate.


Funny how they always have the inside line to what God wants them to do.
I keep trying to call the guy and all I get is a busy signal.

No, she wasn't, and the youngest winner is Malala.

 

[B.O.O.M]

I could be mistaken but Burma/Myanmar is a Theravada majority nation. Yes the notion of god is a part of Theravada Buddhism, the core principals and teachings have nothing to do with gods.

There is no sane justification in any theravda scriptures that I know of or even heard of such nonsense.

Screw these assholes who are committing these atrocities.

This seems relevant:

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22356306


It gives an idea on how these genocides come about, and shows this ethnic cleansing has been occuring on a smaller scale for awhile now.

Yes in my home country of Sri Lanka I have seen this occur in a very small scale (so far at least, and hope it stays that way). Some monks politicize religion and brings about a 'us vs them' mindset. I call these jackasses monks but they are basically power and attention hungry con artists. Thankfully most monks including the main sects of the nation has persisted in a non violent approach to issues pertaining to other religions, especially Islam. I hope that prevails. It makes me really sad as a Buddhist to see these extremist behaviors in the name of religion.

 

[Kickz]

Awful, these people have no humanity in them to commit these acts.

 

[Poetic.Injustice]

She's a milkshake duck.

Well that's the first time I've read about this term.

 

[Always-honest]

Jesus Christ.....

 

[effzee]

Maybe I am a terrible person but I see this issue and images of the atrocities pop up on my twitter feed from time to time, but I can't bring myself to even read a sentence that includes killing and beheading children.

I just know these ppl won't get the help, attention, and saving they should and its cause they don't have anything to provide to the Western world in return.

 

[Shadowhelper]

This has been going on for a while. Western media has mostly ignored it. Even the ones who didn't paid so little attention in relation to how horrific and big this is, that they may as well be ignoring it.

Remember, tens of thousands of fleeing Rohingya were also captured by Thai fishermen. Who use them as slaves, where the women are raped to death, and men beaten to death. Its unbelievably horrific.

At the same time this was happening, all the western countries were personally wooing the women who is doing all this, for Burmas oil. No one said anything to Thialand either for enslaving and torturing thousands of fleeing refugees from genocide.

It is sad who the western governments and media deem worthy of not being killed in a genocide. This is all being done by Buddhists. As bad as ISIS.

This wouldn't be happening if the Western governments didn't allow it to, by endorsing Burma.