Rabbitweed
Member
At the moment I'm using it with Kick & Grip + Steady Aim. For me USAS just feels very inconsistent and any lag makes it twice as worse since it has such a slow rate of fire.
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At the moment I'm using it with Kick & Grip + Steady Aim. For me USAS just feels very inconsistent and any lag makes it twice as worse since it has such a slow rate of fire.
j0hnny_385
Member
*sigh*
Yes, those three "buying" achievements are a huge drag because you need to reach lvl 50 in specs ops which is a drag in itself. After finishing whole Spec Ops (missions+survival) I was at lvl ~40 which meant another 10 lvls in order to buy ... say Type 95 which is at lvl 50. c'mon man...that's lame.
And I had no problem with Overachiever cheevo since I was playing with my friend and we had a blast. Sure, a couple of missions were hideous (Smack Town, anyone?) but overall I enjoyed that more than those idiotic "buy a weapon" achievements.
Reckless Onion
Member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm4ptXh3RR4
Still love these Elpres vids.
I would love to be on his team with his mic on.
The shit he encounters lmfao, you would think some of it is set up but he is just one unlucky mofo!
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
It's not bad luck. He Just plays like a moron.
TestOfTide
Banned
Try this setup until you get range:
USAS w/focus & grip or red dot
any random pistol
Semtex
Flashbang
Sleight of Hand Pro
Hardline Pro
Stalker Pro.
And just aim down the sights before going around corners. Basically use the feature as a way to most easily center your shots while also being able to strafe back and fourth to avoid enemy fire. Hipfire when the enemy is within 3 feet of you
Once you get range, use range & grip or red dot, and once you get extended mags, use range and extended mags.
Also, don't fire it full auto, fire it like a semi auto with a firing cap.
Rabbitweed
Member
Well, I got the range and changed Steady Aim to Stalker and I'm doing much better now. Just went 26-11 on Mission which is my best game with USAS by far... it doesn't feel that crap anymore.
Am I the only one who feels FAD is underappreciated? After unlocking the thermal I went 19-1 in Village and 26-2 in Fallen right after that... that thing is a beast with thermal + silencer. It's actually my second highest k/d weapon right after the Striker.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm4ptXh3RR4
Still love these Elpres vids.
I would love to be on his team with his mic on.
I think most of it is just a schtick, but it's still pretty funny to watch.
"YOU GOT BEASTED SON! YOU JUST GOT...ooh a tag!"
I've been running USAS+range/ext mag, extreme cond pro/hardline/steady aim. Having a lot of fun with it. Using UAV/pred/chopper for my kill streaks but the set-up is mainly to rush into an enemy area ASAP and get 2 quick kills for UAV since knowing where your enemies are helps out a lot with shotties
I like the FAD but it kind of falls apart at long range a bit. I've only used it up to 1k kills but it is my ~4th best performing AR.
I like the FAD but it kind of falls apart at long range a bit. I've only used it up to 1k kills but it is my ~4th best performing AR.
The Xtortionist
Member
Stalker???? who the hell aims with a shotgun
TestOfTide
Banned
Yeah, I played this for the first time today and that was my experience in about every game. With the loads inbetween games they actually really should make every game 2-3 rounds, as it stands now I spent more time from when the final killcam started to when I could actually move in the next game than I do actually playing the game. It's a bit ridiculous.
The Xtortionist
Member
You could easily do that with hipfire.
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Anyone else on the PS3 doing the Vengeful Beast Operation in an hour?
Is it wrong that I still haven't touched multiplayer?
ALL of my online time with this game has been Survival. Maybe it's because I can't stand the abusive nature of online shooters anymore. Maybe it's because I'm playing on PC and hate matchmaking (in games of more than four players).
ALL of my online time with this game has been Survival. Maybe it's because I can't stand the abusive nature of online shooters anymore. Maybe it's because I'm playing on PC and hate matchmaking (in games of more than four players).
Not sure why he was aiming with the shotgun. In most CoDs, for most instances, it causes pellets to spread further decreasing effective killing range. I guess it'd be useful for getting aim assistance, but I'd just tap the aim rather than hold it down...
The Xtortionist
Member
ADS vs hipfire doesn't seem to make a difference in MW3 but there are two advantages to hipfire
1. You can use Steady Aim, SitRep, or Dead Silence which are all far more effective than Stalker for shotguns
2. Obscure less of the screen since your gun will always be in the corner
Dunno about MW3, but with Mw2 it didn't make a difference, and aiming was beneficial because you could pick up some extra aim assist when aiming with a shotty. And with a spas and aim assist and map knowledge, it was game over.
The Xtortionist
Member
You're trading ADS time for a bit of aim assist, when CoD offers sticky aim from the hip anyway.
ChimpanzeeThat
Member
screw you ho
No, I'm not. That's reasoning for the move, though.
A smart Spas-12 user in Mw2 uses ADS when they know someone is coming, where the aim assist essentially guarantees the kill; or when they are covering a corner or doorway, etc..
I wouldn't be ADSing every kill just for the extra assist range. As you say, it slows you down a little bit.
Coming from someone who extensively used shotties in cod4 and mw2, there was a definite reason to ADS in mw2, at least with the spas. Never, ever in cod4.
In MW2, using ADS tightened the spread which made it a lot more lethal for OHK shots. I'm not sure this happens in MW3 though but I ADS with the USAS when there are multiple enemies so that my hipfire autoaim doesn't get confused
TestOfTide
Banned
Not without the aim assist from aiming down the sights. You don't get aim assist hipfiring at the guy 18 meters away (like in that video)
In the CoD games there has always been range to the sticky aim that varied depending on what weapon you were using, whether or not you are ADS, and how much zoom you are getting from ADS.
And that aim assist is VERY helpful when strafing back and forth, which you can utilize with stalker.
Not to mention that delaying the explosives means I can run past BBs and claymores to kill those douches on bakaara who camp on the balcony across from the turret.
Here are 2 of my best shotty matches from tonight. USAS feels pretty awesome when you aren't lagging and you don't get those 2-3 shot no-kills :lol
I'm running USAS-12 +range/extended mags, Extreme Conditioning/Hardline/Dead Silence w/ tact insertion and C4.
I'm mainly running EC because I like the mobility of the USAS for opening TDM rushes. It also makes it a lot different than all my other classes which mostly AR/non-mobile.
30-4 on Hardhat w/ USAS-12
29-6 on Liberation w/ USAS-12
Not the greatest and no MOABs but I sure made the other guys mad lol
My USAS stats after using it the last ~5 days:
I'm running USAS-12 +range/extended mags, Extreme Conditioning/Hardline/Dead Silence w/ tact insertion and C4.
I'm mainly running EC because I like the mobility of the USAS for opening TDM rushes. It also makes it a lot different than all my other classes which mostly AR/non-mobile.
30-4 on Hardhat w/ USAS-12
29-6 on Liberation w/ USAS-12
Not the greatest and no MOABs but I sure made the other guys mad lol
My USAS stats after using it the last ~5 days:
Rabbitweed
Member
Oh my God, I absolutely hate being the host. I've done pretty well with USAS ever since I unlocked the range (got the damage too) but every time I'm having a match where 2-3 shots in the face isn't enough to drop someone I'm the damn host practically every time. I just don't understand how the fuck IW can't do anything to fix that.
Anyways, any recommendations for a sniper rifle & setup? I'm not that good as a sniper and can't quickscope or anything but decided to level up one of the sniper rifles as my next challenge.
Anyways, any recommendations for a sniper rifle & setup? I'm not that good as a sniper and can't quickscope or anything but decided to level up one of the sniper rifles as my next challenge.
Man, I really hate levels 78-80*. Almost all of my used challenges are already completed. Even if I'm running Specialists, I'm still getting like total 10k exp per match. And I don't want to use another gun at this level since it's a bit pointless. :/
It was nerfed in Black Ops as well.
Gun is shit now. Of course you can still do decent with it, but the T95 is pretty much superior in every way. And the godly MK14.
If they just make it like the Skullcrusher from BLOPS, it'll be great.
It was nerfed in Black Ops as well.
Gun is shit now. Of course you can still do decent with it, but the T95 is pretty much superior in every way. And the godly MK14.
If they just make it like the Skullcrusher from BLOPS, it'll be great.
ChimpanzeeThat
Member
I'll share mine, remember though that I use it primarily to patrol areas, not run about.
I use the MSR myself with a silencer, meaning I have to go for the headshot for the kill. The G18 is my secondary, for reasons that become clearer later. Claymore as my Lethal (to cover my rear) and Portable Radar as my Tactical (added cover in case someone tries to flank me).
I have Sleight of Hand as my first perk, mainly because the Pro allows me to switch to my G18 as fast as I could if I had a pistol as my secondary, but the G18 is of course fully automatic and that element could win numerous CQC fights.
Second slot is harder really, if you're not a quickscoper (I'm not either) then you should probably avoid Quickdraw. Assassin Pro is ideal as it allows you to stay hidden from other snipers who will likely have Marksman equipped, but Blast Shield is surprisingly good too because if you're dug in to a spot, they will flush you out with flashbang or concussion grenades and the Pro version eliminates their effect.
Marksman is easily the choice for the third slot, identifying targets at distance is handy as hell and the ability to hold your breath longer when you level that up is even better.
As for Deathstreaks, I'd go for Revenge, finding the person who just took you out just got a bit easier and still works whilst you're scoped in.
Since they've already added 10 new prestige levels on pc, I'm guessing that will eventually make it to the console versions. It's ridiculous though, since the spawns/lag are the most discouraging things about this game, not the leveling/level cap boredom.
The map design basically ruined any great potential this game had. Even on maps like liberation where you'd think there should be enough safe areas to spawn, the system just fucks you over. The COD assembly line never stops, and that's why the game gets released in the state that it's in. My theory is that fourzerotwo barely plays his own game. I think David Vonderhaar enjoys and plays blops a lot though.
The map design basically ruined any great potential this game had. Even on maps like liberation where you'd think there should be enough safe areas to spawn, the system just fucks you over. The COD assembly line never stops, and that's why the game gets released in the state that it's in. My theory is that fourzerotwo barely plays his own game. I think David Vonderhaar enjoys and plays blops a lot though.
Mr. Enigma
Member
Bowling only confirmed they were adding 5 new prestiges to consoles at the moment.
TestOfTide
Banned
bowling says a lot of things
BTw, has anyone else found that lag suddenly got a lot worse. I can't seem to join a single game where I don't find my game dropping below 60 fps from just moving.
wsoxfan1214
Banned
Would be great if they would add the damn prestiges.
I think 5 more prestiges is ok, but if I was a shotgun guy I wouldn't prestige anymore if I had everything unlocked. Those things are a pain in the ass to level up even after the buff, and when you unlock damage/range it still feels like a dice roll.
This new thing is just an artificial extension after the fact (similar to what Gears 3 did recently), as opposed to black ops which was structured around a 15 prestige system from the beginning. There really is no reason to prestige at all in mw3 after you unlock the 5 extra classes, but people still do it because they want the points at the end of the match to count towards something. After a certain point though, it becomes exhausting. I might just go to 11th prestige and stop.
This new thing is just an artificial extension after the fact (similar to what Gears 3 did recently), as opposed to black ops which was structured around a 15 prestige system from the beginning. There really is no reason to prestige at all in mw3 after you unlock the 5 extra classes, but people still do it because they want the points at the end of the match to count towards something. After a certain point though, it becomes exhausting. I might just go to 11th prestige and stop.
BigBlue1974
Member
This right here. He runs dead center into a group of opponents and then complains about getting shot in the back. Anybody who kills him is a camper even though the majority of his deaths looked to be against guys who were clearly moving around the map.
computers putin'
Member
That's exactly what stopped me after I thought about prestiging; going through those shotgun unlocks is such a pain.
Stantron
Member
Currently at prestige 4. I was planning on stopping at 7 since I like that icon more than the ones beyond it. Probably gonna stick with that. And yeah, I haven't been using shotguns or sniper rifles much yet besides the USAS, but I plan to once I hit my final prestige.
Spawns still need to be tweaked. Had a guy pop up 10 feet in front of me as I'm sprinting straight at him. Another time, a guy I just killed spawns 5 feet behind me and facing my direction for an easy revenge kill. Spawning into a live grenade or pred missile is also nice. These aren't even ground war matches.
Spawns still need to be tweaked. Had a guy pop up 10 feet in front of me as I'm sprinting straight at him. Another time, a guy I just killed spawns 5 feet behind me and facing my direction for an easy revenge kill. Spawning into a live grenade or pred missile is also nice. These aren't even ground war matches.
wsoxfan1214
Banned
I hate the seventh prestige emblem. It's so drab and... I don't know. Colorless?
I like the ones after. Not crazy about the new ones, but I'm going to do them anyways, so whatever/
Can't even join games without being in red bars. Which is insane as everyone else is 4 bars.
wsoxfan1214
Banned
Haven't had any issues with lag lately, but I have noticed that a ton of people have been in red bar territory. No idea why.
Stantron
Member
That would actually make for a fun/frustrating game mode. Every death spawns you with a random class.
That's pretty cool. I'll probably start using this when I prestige a few more times and get bored.
BertleTheTurtle
Member
I think I asked before but I'll ask again if anyone on PC wants/needs people to play with?
Preferably in the US just so my ping isn't horrible.
I get very bored playing on my own.
Preferably in the US just so my ping isn't horrible.
I get very bored playing on my own.
TestOfTide
Banned
First Roll:
AK47 w/stability & ACOG
Akimbo Magnum
Frag, EMP, & Martyrdom
Blind Eye
Blast Shield
Stalker
I might actually try that out the next time I play.
Second Roll:
Dragunov w/HBS & Variable Scope
nope