Came in for Corona: Walked Out with Diabetes

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Well fuck...I've got early onset type 2 Diabetes now. Negative on the Corona virus though. Apparently I can reverse it through exercise and meds I'm not at the point where I need insulin...yet.

I want to avoid that any tips? Already threw out all alcohol white bread and sugary drinks in the house and took my ass out for a jog at 6:30 AM.

I'm in a mixed Asian family so am I good just not eating rice and upping my veggies?

Perfect timing world!


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Sorry to hear, but knowing is better than not knowing, and it sounds like you're taking appropriate steps. Stay strong and get yourself healthy.
 
Damn man, that sucks. I feel for you.

Hopefully you and your doctor can figure out a great plan to deal with this. What are the stats of how often it's reversed?

Are you using at home blood sugar monitoring? From what I have been told it helps to try and limit carbs as much as possible to balance any carbs with fats/proteins, etc

I'm rooting for you, you can beat it
 
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Focus on cardio, range of motion, and bodyweight strength at first. Do not get caught up in a quest to max muscle gain early on in your fitness journey.

You might consider a program like INSANITY that packs all these things in to home workout videos. You just follow the videos and you'll be getting a balanced workout which is great for beginners/experts alike.

Drink tons of water. Buy a filter and reusable water bottle if you don't already have one since water is an unnecessary expense.

Research diets related to your condition which it sounds like you are already doing. If you need to lose weight then accept that it has to be done at a safe, healthy rate and requires patience. Understand that any dietary cravings will pass if you just abstain enough. Each time you succeed in fighting them off the craving is closer to disappearing or weakening significantly.

Best of luck! You've got this!
 
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You don't want diabetes. Sounds like you could heavily reduce your chances, so go for it. My son developed type 1 a few years ago when he was 9. It sucks, our life has never been the same, the poor kid. He inherited my genes there too, so if I keep slacking off then I'll get type 2 probably too. Fuck that.

Taught me a lot about diet and carbs. The Rogan podcast helped too in kickstarting an interest in food. But I'm far from being an expert, so just try to eat healthy and exercise.

Edit: In fact, they say asthma medicine is linked to causing type 1. Coincidentally (NOT), about a year before he developed it, his asthma meds (daily, a few types) were recalled from market.
 
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I'm sorry OP but I burst out laughing at the title. But yes you are in the correct path on reversing type 2. I get the feeling that I too am in the pre diabetes stage and my parents family health isn't good either. I'll join you on your crusade of getting healthy.
 
My wife's cholesterol was super high, around 200+ and it dropped by a 100 with a vegan diet. We switched to a vegan diet. Dr. Greger is the MD Nutritionalist that we follow. I'm actually going to one of his events in June if everything works out.

I'm a true believer in the plant based diet.

diabetics who had had diabetes as long as 20 years, injecting 20 units of insulin a day, getting off insulin altogether in as few as 13 days, thanks to less than two weeks on a plant-based diet.
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Focus on cardio, range of motion, and bodyweight strength at first. Do not get caught up in a quest to max muscle gain early on in your fitness journey.

You might consider a program like INSANITY that packs all these things in to home workout videos. You just follow the videos and you'll be getting a balanced workout which is great for beginners/experts alike.

Drink tons of water. Buy a filter and reusable water bottle if you don't already have one since water is an unnecessary expense.

Research diets related to your condition which it sounds like you are already doing. If you need to lose weight then accept that it has to be done at a safe, healthy rate and requires patience. Understand that any dietary cravings will pass if you just abstain enough. Each time you succeed in fighting them off the craving is closer to disappearing or weakening significantly.

Best of luck! You've got this!
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I like your advice except I'd nitpick at INSANITY being good for beginners. They're very upfront that INSANITY is a program for people already in shape. OP can still give it a try but expect to modify a lot of the exercises and give yourself longer breaks throughout the program, pausing it if necessary. My platoon used to use it a lot in the military and even the best of us would struggle.

OP, the most important thing you need to consider is what you'll stick to. Do not beat yourself up for not being able to do certain workouts. If you're on the obese side you might want to stick to low impact exercises like swimming so as to not destroy your joints along your path to self-improvement. You simply cannot make up for lost time with enthusiasm. Talk to a physician, talk to fitness trainers who have trained 100+ different people going through your exact same situation and respect that this is a journey. Wealth cannot buy you this, fame will not grant you this, it cannot be stolen from you, no one can give it to you, when you're in great shape everyone knows that YOU and you alone are responsible for what progress you achieve.

Best of luck and post an update in the future :messenger_heart:

 
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My wife's cholesterol was super high, around 200+ and it dropped by a 100 with a vegan diet. We switched to a vegan diet. Dr. Greger is the MD Nutritionalist that we follow. I'm actually going to one of his events in June if everything works out.

I'm a true believer in the plant based diet.



nutritionfacts.org

How to Reverse Type 2 Diabetes | NutritionFacts.org

Diabetes reversal, not just treatment, should be a goal in the management of type 2 diabetes. Type 2 diabetes can be reversed not only with an extremely
nutritionfacts.org nutritionfacts.org
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Only thing Is I have a been known to use alcohol as a crutch...is it risky taper it off? I usually have about 2-3 drinks a day and get wasted one night of the weekend. I'm scared though and am motivated to just quit but I don't want to give myself a heart attack in the process.

There was a point 2 years ago where I was going through about a bottle every two days...so 2-3 is a big improvement.
 
yeah drinking is a good way to spike your sugar. probably for the best to hold off on it. there may be a way around it but i'm not sure. ask your doctor.

my best friend found out he has diabetes a few years ago. he made a lot of changes to his diet but sometimes he still caves on the junk food. i think there is a way to figure out what your body can handle, it will just take time.

hey, if you end up making a lot of changes, this might end up making you way healthier than you would be otherwise. good luck!
 
I had a buddy who ate like shit, was a drunk, smoker, etc,etc and he got diagnosed with diabetes. He turned his life completely around and is one of the healthiest people I know now (diabetes is gone).

Not sure what your lifestyle is OP but hoping that this is a blessing in disguise for you.
 
you should try keto diet, many has reversed/remissioned their type 2 with that lifestyle

check r/keto for more information
 
A lot of people are at this stage and have no idea/don't care. It's all about what you eat. Be strong, disciplined and you will probably live a happier life from now on as long as you do what you have to.

Good luck!
 
TTOOLL said:
A lot of people are at this stage and have no idea/don't care. It's all about what you eat. Be strong, disciplined and you will probably live a happier life from now on as long as you do what you have to.

Good luck!
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Good point I'm probably going vegan for a month and inching into Keto my cholesterol and blood pressure are also high. Don't want to give myself a heart attack by putting butter on steak lol
 
Potato Chip PRO said:
I'm sorry OP but I burst out laughing at the title. But yes you are in the correct path on reversing type 2. I get the feeling that I too am in the pre diabetes stage and my parents family health isn't good either. I'll join you on your crusade of getting healthy.
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No need to be sorry I used humor to cope with shitty situations t'was meant to be funny.
 
MrMephistoX said:
Well fuck...I've got early onset type 2 Diabetes now. Negative on the Corona virus though. Apparently I can reverse it through exercise and meds I'm not at the point where I need insulin...yet.

I want to avoid that any tips? Already threw out all alcohol white bread and sugary drinks in the house and took my ass out for a jog at 6:30 AM.

I'm in a mixed Asian family so am I good just not eating rice and upping my veggies?

Perfect timing world!


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He is still alive.
 
MrMephistoX said:
Good point I'm probably going vegan for a month and inching into Keto my cholesterol and blood pressure are also high. Don't want to give myself a heart attack by putting butter on steak lol
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Hey, I'm sorry to hear about your situation. As someone who has lost and kept off the weight, I'd say a few things.

When it comes to what you eat, good outcomes can be achieved through any number of diets, whether it's going vegetarian, keto or whatever else. However, a lot of people find it hard to maintain those over an extended period of time. My advice would be to follow Michael Polan's advice: "Eat real food, not too much, mostly vegetables." Basically cut out processed foods like you've been doing, reduce your meat intake and eat lots of vegetables. He wrote a great book called "In Defense of Food." Check it out.

Good luck dude.
 
Just take care of yourself man. I had a coworker pass 2 months ago 2 weeks after he was diagnosed with stage 2 diabetes. He was super stressed about everything which I think played a huge part. He seemed super stressed about not being able to get an erection. I'm not trying to scare you or anything but you need to listen to the doctor and take it seriously. We're still not sure what happened exactly. He just stopped showing up to work and people were concerned. Someone went into his home and found him there. I didn't even know it was possible to pass from diabetes like that. Or maybe there was something else wrong with him that no one knew anything about.
Please take of yourself
 
MrMephistoX said:
Well fuck...I've got early onset type 2 Diabetes now. Negative on the Corona virus though. Apparently I can reverse it through exercise and meds I'm not at the point where I need insulin...yet.

I want to avoid that any tips? Already threw out all alcohol white bread and sugary drinks in the house and took my ass out for a jog at 6:30 AM.

I'm in a mixed Asian family so am I good just not eating rice and upping my veggies?

Perfect timing world!
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Out of curiosity, what were your symptoms that led you to going to the doctor? Did you notice any symptoms related to the Diabetes?
 
None I just wanted to chose a new primary care physician since I just recently moved to a new city. My goal in going in was to get my asthma meds refilled after experiencing Corona like symptoms. In retrospect I've found it difficult to lose weight and gained a ton of stress weight the last 3 years. I always feel thirsty.
 
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MrMephistoX said:
Only thing Is I have a been known to use alcohol as a crutch...is it risky taper it off? I usually have about 2-3 drinks a day and get wasted one night of the weekend. I'm scared though and am motivated to just quit but I don't want to give myself a heart attack in the process.

There was a point 2 years ago where I was going through about a bottle every two days...so 2-3 is a big improvement.
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I've quite drinking a number of times, you can go from 3 to zero from one day to the next and all you will get is a mild craving or maybe a bit annoyed. When you see something about a guys hands shaking in a movie because he hasn't had a drink, or hear about someone that must drink alcohol to avoid extreme withdrawals, you are likely talking about someone who has at least 10 drinks a day. Don't get me wrong, all sorts of negative side effects get really crazy before 10 drinks a day, but that's largely the dividing line. Most regular drinkers either keep it in the 2-3 range on a typical day or even less, and then something like the top 20% (I've seen a chart that does the breakdown but I can't find it at the moment) of drinkers will regularly consume 10 or more drinks a day.
 
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Taxexemption said:
I've quite drinking a number of times, you can go from 3 to zero from one day to the next and all you will get is a mild craving or maybe a bit annoyed. When you see something about a guys hands shaking in a movie because he hasn't had a drink, or hear about someone that must drink alcohol to avoid extreme withdrawals, you are likely talking about someone who has at least 10 drinks a day. Don't get me wrong, all sorts of negative side effects get really crazy before 10 drinks a day, but that's largely the dividing line. Most regular drinkers either keep it in the 2-3 range on a typical day or even less, and then something like the top 20% (I've seen a chart that does the breakdown but I can't find it at the moment) of drinkers will regularly consume 10 or more drinks a day.
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Cool yeah I always thought that was an issue for guys that polish off a whole bottle of whiskey as if it were a pint of beer but thanks for clarifying.
 
That suck, I hope you are fine with what is coming to you with medication, etc. I dodged the bullet, because with liver transplant comes diabetes quite often, not with me luckily...
 
Had my first face to face appointment about it at the docs. They all assured me it's reversible and I just need to make a few changes.

My Commitment
  • Cardio Exercise 30 minutes of some kind every day of the week especially since WFH is sedentary.
  • Going meatless for the month and might go vegetarian permanently.
  • Cutting out 100% added sugar
  • No refined carbs: switching to sprouted wheat bread, brown rice, buckwheat or gluten free noodles
  • No daily drinking: limit myself to 1 drink max.
  • No beer or Wine only Whisky
  • 1 Veggie Only Meal a Day
 
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MrMephistoX said:
Had my first face to face appointment about it at the docs. They all assured me it's reversible and I just need to make a few changes.

My Commitment
  • Cardio Exercise 30 minutes of some kind every day of the week especially since WFH is sedentary.
  • Going meatless for the month and might go vegetarian permanently.
  • Cutting out 100% added sugar
  • No refined carbs: switching to sprouted wheat bread, brown rice, buckwheat or gluten free noodles
  • No daily drinking: limit myself to 1 drink max.
  • No beer or Wine only Whisky
  • 1 Veggie Only Meal a Day
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Drs go overboard with Type 2. I reversed my pre-diabetes just by reducing my sugar intake, drinking water and exercising. If you're stuck indoors I recommend pilates or DDPYoga, i've been doing DDY for about a year now and it reversed, or at the very least strengthened all my back muscles, and all the pain I had from a spinal compression when injured myself squatting plus the added flexibility I gained is amazing.
 
M1chl said:
That suck, I hope you are fine with what is coming to you with medication, etc. I dodged the bullet, because with liver transplant comes diabetes quite often, not with me luckily...
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laser_printer said:
Drs go overboard with Type 2. I reversed my pre-diabetes just by reducing my sugar intake, drinking water and exercising. If you're stuck indoors I recommend pilates or DDPYoga, i've been doing DDY for about a year now and it reversed, or at the very least strengthened all my back muscles, and all the pain I had from a spinal compression when injured myself squatting plus the added flexibility I gained is amazing.
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That's my goal; I've jogged three times this week and have Ring Fit Aventure for Pilates and Yoga. I'm on some meds and actually feel great after a few days. Pills don't bother me I just want to avoid needles that scares me! Bonus is that I don't really feel like drinking at all after all this work lol I just have whisky for emergencies but threw out anything with added sugar.
 
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MrMephistoX said:
Had my first face to face appointment about it at the docs. They all assured me it's reversible and I just need to make a few changes.

My Commitment
  • Cardio Exercise 30 minutes of some kind every day of the week especially since WFH is sedentary.
  • Going meatless for the month and might go vegetarian permanently.
  • Cutting out 100% added sugar
  • No refined carbs: switching to sprouted wheat bread, brown rice, buckwheat or gluten free noodles
  • No daily drinking: limit myself to 1 drink max.
  • No beer or Wine only Whisky
  • 1 Veggie Only Meal a Day
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That sounds miserable...at least, I wouldn't be able to do the meatless and veggie only meal. Everyone has what they can do, but keto works really well for me...1 month straight, then cyclic keto...every Friday is my cheat day.
 
No biggie, just vote for Joe Biden. He promised to cure it if he becomes president.

Also how can you be diagnosed in one visit?

I went in and was told I was pre-diabetic and just needed to lose a little weight. My doctor made it seem like it would take months to ever get diagnosed to be fully diabetic and if I did a few things it would never get that far.
 
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I'm type 1 so not the same, but count carbs and cut your carb intake as much as possible. Stuff that's high in carbs are beans, rices, pasta. Bread is ok of your eating a sandwich or something, around 13 grams in a slice.

I would say see if you can cut down to 130-150 carbs a day. I try to eat under 100. But for just starting out that's going to be harder.


If you drink soda get diet. Also don't just buy stuff that says it's sugar free. Check the carbs per serving, sometimes that stuff is just as high.
 
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