Can a proper gamer ignore Nintendo games?

Gravijah said:
you're just another cog in the machine, maaaaaaaaaan.



psst bioshock infinite! ;p
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Sometimes I wanna hop on your little surfboard and ride the wave outta this cage, maaaaan. I'm tired of being a gear! Of war!
 
Nintendo consoles were my MAINNN console until the Wii came out. Yes I was shamefully late on PS1 and 2 because I was busy N64/gamecubing it up. I thought it would be hard not to get Nintendo games by ignoring the Wii but meh, you get used to it pretty fast. Now I can easily go without it. But I'd love for the day to come where I'd be comfortable buying Nintendo as a main console, but that day doesn't seem like it's coming.

At least I got the 3DS this time :(
 
Smision said:
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when i meet people, i'm like "hi, i'm smision and I'm a gamer."
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I show them my NES belt buckle and MGS ringtone so they know I'm legit

I'm the life of every party that I'm not ever invited to
 
Yes and I have for close to 10 years now. They don't appeal to me anymore and probably never will since I don't see them changing. I find something from just about every genre that I would or could play on pc/360/ps3.
 
Sure.

I never cared for Zelda, Metroid, 2d Marios, etc.

Only Nintendo games I ever really liked were Kirby Superstar and Super Mario 64
 
Real gamers only buy Call of Duty games, have their Xbox 360 hooked up to a 20 inch SDTV, and live rent-free with their parents well into their 30s.
 
Foffy said:
I'm not trying to stereotype it as a Nintendo vs other games kind of affair. It's just Nintendo is the company to look at when wanting games that are nothing but raw gameplay.
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What is a proper gamer, please?

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To not be so snarky, I think that any videogame enthusiast should have some sort of awareness about Nintendo, their history, what games they make, etc. Doesn't mean they have to like the company or its output.
 
Ignoring Nintendo games means you're ignoring some of, if not the, best games each generation has to offer. Therefore, anyone calling themselves a serious gamer can't ignore their output.

That isn't to say that if you don't like some of the offerings from Nintendo, you aren't a gamer. If Zelda or Mario or whatever isn't your thing, then more power to you. But to write off an entire company? That's just stupid and not something a person who claims to love playing video games would or should ever do. That goes for every company, too.
 
Foffy said:
They make some of the best games ever. Especially now. Many other companies are focusing on "immersion" or "cinematic experiences", but Nintendo delivers in actually making fun games that aren't full of themselves. They're just full of fun.
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So much FUN filled Wii Fit is huh.

But back to the subject matter at hand. I really think it depends on your taste, and you can't really judge a gamer, and his merit as a gamer base on if he has enjoyed a nintendo franchise or not.

Can't tell if the OP is trolling.
 
Nintendork22 said:
What say you Gaf, can a proper gamer ignore Nintendo games? Or should gamers be expected to play Nintendo games?
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I haven't touched a Nintendo game since the N64 and I don't have plants to any time soon. No Zelda, no Mario, no Kirby, no Smash Brothers, no Metroid. Absolutely nothing. Though I'm fairly apathetic towards titles like that (hardcore, casual, etc.) so maybe I am an improper gamer.

For reference, I got rid of my N64 in 1998.
 
I just want Nintendo to get back to focusing on the games themselves instead of creating some random gimmick for the player to have to get past.

First it was motion controls
Then 3D
Now it will be motion controls AND two screens.

It's like they know that they have run their franchises into the ground, and instead of creating new ones they just keep trying to distract the gamer through gimmicks. This also gives Nintendo an excuse for releasing underpowered hardware yet still charging a premium price for it.

It's really quite sad because they have some of the best game designers on the planet. They just don't seem to let them innovate and create new games.

They remind me of a Japanese Activision....
 
Raitosaito said:
So much FUN filled Wii Fit is huh.

But back to the subject matter at hand. I really think it depends on your taste, and you can't really judge a gamer, and his merit as a gamer base on if he has enjoyed a nintendo franchise or not.

Can't tell if the OP is trolling.
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200% more fun is crammed into every Wii game. You need that Wiimote to cut through all of it.
 
Make a new f zero game and I'll start buying nintendo consoles again.
Till then... I strongly prefered crash team racing over mario kart, golden eye etc were a poor man's fps compared to what was offered on pc at the time, turok games haven't been good in like forever, I was a sonic player, finished SMB 1 and 2 but prefered sonic nonetheless.

Don't care for brawl or zelda or pokemon or starfox.

Wheres banjo? conker?


Bought a gamecube for metroid prime but the controller crapped out after 2 weeks for no reason so that was the end of that, and it was pretty cool concept wise but hampered by shitty controls in fps mode.

Also, the games I enjoyed on SNES, n64 etc were just good, they aren't the be all end all of gaming like nintendo fanboys seem to assume.

Might as well say 'can you call yourself a real gamer if you don't play gran turismo, metal gear solid, twisted metal and crash banditcoot.
Totally pointless.

Also i'm curious op: have you played dawn of war? starcraft? tribes? commandos? cs? battlefield 1942? ut? moh:AA? rtcw? red alert 2 ? rollercoaster tycoon? the theme games? monkey island? age of empires?
I bet you still call yourself a real gamer nonetheless...
hypocrite
 
Gravijah said:
A "proper gamer" plays whatever the hell he or she enjoys.
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Yeah, this.

"Proper" as defined by whom? The Grand Moff of Gaming? What exactly is an improper gamer? Someone who plays Facebook games? I mean, I'd frankly want to agree with that, but that doesn't make me right, it just makes me a bit arrogant.

Honestly, I'm not even wild about the "gamer" label sans any modifiers to begin with.
 
Most people agree that first party Nintendo stuff tends to be great.

That said, the constant hype surrounding Nintendo's biggest franchises can be pretty off putting. Claims of "best game ever" and a "can do no wrong" attitude implying that somehow these games exist on a higher plane annoys me.

It's not just Nintendo though, I get the same feeling from Halo/Uncharted/Gears/Valve etc. Something about the worship of certain games/companies can make playing the games themselves unappealing.
 
Randomizer said:
Each has also had 3 or 4 games within that small time frame.
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And how many successful new franchises did Nintendo launch this generation?

Also, I like that you list Bioshock Infinite. A game that appears to have changed more in a single generation than Zelda has in the last 15 years....
 
Buddha Beam said:
Ignoring Nintendo games means you're ignoring some of, if not the, best games each generation has to offer. Therefore, anyone calling themselves a serious gamer can't ignore their output.
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Ignoring Nintendo games means you're ignoring some of, if not the, best games that last generation had to offer.
 
Shurs said:
Though I've gone back and forth on the topic many times, I have not been able to talk myself into buying a Wii.

Sure, there are a handful of games for the system that I'd really like to play, but between the HD twins and PC my backlog is a bloated mess.

I know this makes me sound shallow, but if Wii was an HD console, I know I would have purchased one years ago.
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my thoughts exactly. having no hd is a dagger for me. spoiled i guess.
 
I'll say only this. If ever there's some kind of degree in game history out there and they skip Nintendo or only make them a footnote and not a part of the main curriculum it wouldn't be worth the paper it was printed on.
 
Buddha Beam said:
Ignoring Nintendo games means you're ignoring some of, if not the, best games each generation has to offer. Therefore, anyone calling themselves a serious gamer can't ignore their output.

That isn't to say that if you don't like some of the offerings from Nintendo, you aren't a gamer. If Zelda or Mario or whatever isn't your thing, then more power to you. But to write off an entire company? That's just stupid and not something a person who claims to love playing video games would or should ever do. That goes for every company, too.
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But I dont' like anything they make so I don't feel like I'm missing some of the "best" games of the gen. I feel like I'm missing absolutely nothing of importance.
 
No such thing as a proper gamer. Everyone's got a different opinion about what makes one. Person X may think all proper gamers need to play The Witcher, whereas Person Y thinks everyone should have played Battlefield: Bad Company 2.
 
Raitosaito said:
Sounds about right.
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The problem is time and money are finite. There are thousands of games I'd love to play across dozens of systems, but I just don't have the money nor time. So I focus on the most "important" games to me.
 
Fusebox said:
Ignoring Nintendo games means you're ignoring some of, if not the, best games that last generation had to offer.
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I have learned that you can't be a real gamer and play Dudebro games, because they are ruining everything.
 
kliklik said:
A lot of nintendo franchises... if you've played one in the franchise, you've pretty much gotten a taste of what they're all like. It's probably important for gamers to at least try a mario or a zelda etc. once. But each new game? I don't think so.
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Not necessarily true.

If you've played The Legend of Zelda, you can't say that the rest of the Zelda games are open world like that. If you've played Zelda II, the other games are not sidescrolling and do not depend so much on RPG elements. If you've played Ocarina of Time, you can't say that all the other games (especially games before) adopt the Z-Targetting or, if you've played the 3DS version, adopt the gyro aiming system. Majora's Mask seems like a love-it-or-hate-it title because it deviated so much from the formula. Skyward Sword seems to be going in a different direction by using the Motion+ controller to make Zelda combat more strategic rather than merely hacking and slashing.

If you've played Metroid Prime, the other Metroid games are not in first-person. At the same time, Super Metroid isn't the same as Metroid Prime at all. These are two different types of games based on perspective. But the perspective shift can offer a brand new experience to the player.

If you've played Super Mario Bros, well... you and I both know that each new Mario title introduces some new quirk or mechanic (Super Mario 64's camera, for example) to keep players coming back. The level designs are often superb and well-designed.

But there is some truth here at the same time: Nintendo games are always comforting in their familiarity. In some cases, certain Nintendo games seems to have assisted in writing the blueprint for other games in the genre, or are inspirations for other games in the same genre. But the polished, well-planned work from any of Nintendo's development teams is very comforting to come back to every now and then. In other words: I know Nintendo EAD will give me a polished, well-designed product, and that's what keeps me coming back.

But on the other hand, I see your perspective and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that because it's partially true. :)
 
Gravijah said:
The problem is time and money are finite. There are thousands of games I'd love to play across dozens of systems, but I just don't have the money nor time. So I focus on the most "important" games to me.
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I agreed with that statement because he said "last generation."

I thought it was a jab at nintendo's ability to only make last gen games.
 
Derrick01 said:
But I dont' like anything they make so I don't feel like I'm missing some of the "best" games of the gen. I feel like I'm missing absolutely nothing of importance.
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How would you know you don't like them if you're ignoring them?
 
Buddha Beam said:
Ignoring Nintendo games means you're ignoring some of, if not the, best games each generation has to offer. Therefore, anyone calling themselves a serious gamer can't ignore their output.

That isn't to say that if you don't like some of the offerings from Nintendo, you aren't a gamer. If Zelda or Mario or whatever isn't your thing, then more power to you. But to write off an entire company? That's just stupid and not something a person who claims to love playing video games would or should ever do. That goes for every company, too.
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Other than Mario and Zelda what games have they made the last three generations that meet the standard you set in your first paragraph?

If Mario or Zelda doesn't strike someone's fancy Nintendo doesn't offer much in the way of real top tier gaming. They're painfully one dimensional in that sense.
 
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