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Canadian PoliGAF - 42nd Parliament: Sunny Ways in Trudeaupia
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gutter_trash
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hahaha Maria Mourani eat your heart out, Melanie Joly is full of win.
I am happy for Madame Joly
I am happy for Madame Joly
MeBecomingI
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Upon thinking about it, I'm actually pretty happy with Ralph as Public Safety Minister.
I like the look of his cabinet. Reading the backgrounds on a lot of people, a lot are in positions that they have strong backgrounds in. It's also ethnically diverse and gender balanced. I like it.
I like the look of his cabinet. Reading the backgrounds on a lot of people, a lot are in positions that they have strong backgrounds in. It's also ethnically diverse and gender balanced. I like it.
So you like that a lot of people are in positions that they have strong backgrounds in, but *also* are happy that a career politician with, as far as I can tell, zero background with security matters, is public safety minister?
gutter_trash
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will Radio poubelle in Quebec City be happy to have a minister ?
equippedwithtowel
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So you like that a lot of people are in positions that they have strong backgrounds in, but *also* are happy that a career politician with, as far as I can tell, zero background with security matters, is public safety minister?
Politicians who claim experience in security matters usually tend to be much more cavalier about things like civil rights and appeal to their own experience as justification.
It won't be hard to step up from Blaney and especially Vic Toews
Sapiens
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Why is that a problem?
This strikes me as saying a male gyno would make a good Minister for the Status of Women. I mean, sure, it's entirely possible they'd be empathetic, but I doubt it would go uncommented. The last male Status of Women minister was in *1981*. This is "not a bad choice" in that it's a very status quo kind of decision, but it's still disappointing after days now of discussion over how important it is to have a cabinet that is representative in more ways than just regionally.
You Are Viewtiful
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He'll make a good minister at the Paris Conference, which is pretty much the only relevant thing going on for a while.
So you like that a lot of people are in positions that they have strong backgrounds in, but *also* are happy that a career politician with, as far as I can tell, zero background with security matters, is public safety minister?
I completely understand your hesitancy and concern about this appointment, but I also think that Bill Blair came with too much baggage for this position. That said, who know what happens if there's a Cabinet shuffle.
Also, did they just say that McKenna is Minister of Environment AND Climate Change? Shots fired.
Sapiens
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Marc fucking Garneau bringing us space cars!
Ezra Levant just died a little after seeing that, I'm sure.
Ezra Levant just died a little after seeing that, I'm sure.
I think the point is that the aboriginal cabinet members like Jody Wilson-Raybould and Hunter Tootoo aren't relegated to being Minister of Aboriginal Affairs just because they're aboriginal, and healing the rift between their communities and the rest of Canada by starting a dialogue with an open-minded urban minister.
Dion did good work in working with other countries when he chaired a UN Climate Change Meeting when he was Minister of the Environment. He's intelligent and has great diplomacy and political skills.
He also supports PR AS AN ASIDE.
CreeperBlocks
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Why is everyone hating on Dion.
PumpkinSpice
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I don't even think I would call it "concern", it's just that the pick does nothing to excite me.
With all the talk of "NEW BLOOD", "CHANGE", "generational change", etc, I was eager to see who would get the nod on this file (I would have liked Blair, but can acknowledge it was a long shot with the baggage, even if I don't think it's as warranted to hang on him).
And then...we get the one of oldest of old guard Liberal politicians. Ho-hum.
I don't really buy this, either. It would still be better for it to be a person who represents at least one half of what that portfolio is about. Someone from the 'north' (which can be considered loosely anything over the band of urban areas near the US border if there aren't enough to draw on in the actual north), or someone indigenous.
I think there have been plenty of attempts to 'heal the rifts' by putting urban people in power to 'dialog' with. A much better way to heal rifts would be to put indigenous people in control of their own destiny as much as possible, including by putting them in positions of power over their own file. I don't think that's 'relegation' at all, and I think framing it that way implies that women on the status of women file are also being 'relegated' (particularly back when there weren't as many women in government). No, putting them there was empowering them in cabinet to work on improving their own lot. The same would be true of an indigenous minister for aboriginal affairs.
And just so I'm not only ranting negatively, yes, this is very good.
I'm very pleased to see Jody get this role. These are savvy selections with the next election in mind as well. The federal Liberals roots in BC aren't as strong as they are in Ontario and these are all competitive ridings. Especially in Jody's Vancouver Granville battleground riding it makes sense to try to create a very strong, well known incumbent, and to build the Liberal brand.
Overall seems like a good cabinet.
Sapiens
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Those ads were very effective.
Too bad people are so small minded. He's actually one of the good ones. A good man and good Canadian.
What a stacked cabinet. Stacked.
I can pick out at least four of five people I could see as PM one day. The Conservatives can't claim the same. Maybe McKay, but he's an idiot.
I think this is 100% confirmation that we'll finally get that public inquiry into missing/murdered aboriginal women.
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CreeperBlocks
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This is a very impressive Cabinet
In the past, Aboriginal Affairs hasn't really been about healing any rifts, it's been about appeasement. This is an improvement regardless of whether or not your personal criteria have been met and while you may think that it's a continuation of the status quo, any modicum of research into Bennett's history of politics would tell you how much different her appointment is than any previous appointment.
Putting an aboriginal in the office would have meant Wilson-Raybould would not have been Justice or Hunter Tootoo would not have been Fisheries, both of which are fantastic appointments.
MeBecomingI
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So you like that a lot of people are in positions that they have strong backgrounds in, but *also* are happy that a career politician with, as far as I can tell, zero background with security matters, is public safety minister?
Yes, I am. That doesn't change the fact that a lot of people are in positions that they have strong backgrounds in. I'd rather have seen him as the Minister of Finance, but this is okay.
Exactly.
Thanks, totally missed that somehow.
Will be taking an indepth look later today. Great diversity so far.
killer rin
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Great job on the OP Matthew! Love it.
Overslept so I missed out in the ceremony, so I'll likely have to try and find a recording later... Oh well.
Overslept so I missed out in the ceremony, so I'll likely have to try and find a recording later... Oh well.
CreeperBlocks
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Yay!
Trudeau is Officially our new PM.
Trudeau is Officially our new PM.
You Are Viewtiful
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What does a Minister of Science do? All I got from the last one was climate change denial and creationism lol. Transportation looks like a promotion.
CitizenVectron
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I believe he will oversee airlines as well as space stuff in that post, though I could be wrong.
Seems like a very impressive bunch of people overall.
One I'm not too crazy about is Morneau. He's your classic super rich Toronton businessman.
Dion as FM most likely means Israel will have to find a new BFF. Canada will also be a lot less hawkish. It was predictable with the Liberals in charge but even more true now with Dion.
One I'm not too crazy about is Morneau. He's your classic super rich Toronton businessman.
Dion as FM most likely means Israel will have to find a new BFF. Canada will also be a lot less hawkish. It was predictable with the Liberals in charge but even more true now with Dion.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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That mostly seems like a stellar cabinet.
Though I'm a bit wary of this Morneau bloke.
Though I'm a bit wary of this Morneau bloke.
Is this something he's stated in the past?
The Last Emperor
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It feels real good to see very strong Sikh candidates Bains and Sajjan getting posts, after seeing Tim Uppal be the token guy for so long and do absolutely nothing
The only thing i can quickly find is that he was against cutting aid to Palestine.
I just don't see why he would be a blind supporter like his predecessors.
gutter_trash
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The Bombardier bailout will probably be the first problem he will have to address.
Lots of righties are complaining about Quebec bailing out Bombardier but the aerospace industry in the region are dependent on Bombardier's existence.
If Bombardier goes, so does many others in the industry.
Well that would be nearly impossible
The best case scenario, I think, is if Bombardier gets bought out by some other company or is acquired by the government (or becomes a significant shareholder a la GM). The latter of the two options isn't really an option, since the growth outlook for Bombardier isn't great by any means.
TheRagnCajun
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I'd take Tony Clement over McKay any day.
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