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Castlevania Lords of Shadow 2 - |OT| - Dead and Loving It!
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Shmuely Bully
Member
Do yourself a favor and turn off hints in the options, I'm still not sure exactly what all that impacts but I've played with that set so far and haven't noticed many things like what you mentioned.
brandonh83
Banned
I think this game is... pretty creepy to be honest. It only cements the fact that I would like for MS to do the next Silent Hill. The
aspects were pretty fucked up IMO.
Also just a lot of narrative things, particularly how
. It's all very well done and interesting stuff to me. The voice acting and writing is actually very good.
Gorgon sisters, the way they sounded and animated, along with the evil of Castlevania not wanting Dracula to ever leave
Also just a lot of narrative things, particularly how
your visits to the castle feel very dream-like and driven by Gabriel's psychology, and the memory of Marie and Trevor
Those enemies were definitely interesting. I have no doubt MS could make amazing top tier art and graphical assets for Silent Hill, as well as the technical aspects of gameplay.
The challenge is always in the story, puzzles, combat system philosophy.
They're probably as good as anyone to try it, but I'd like to see another Japanese team try it, since they seem to have a pretty solid handle on horror in games and film.
brandonh83
Banned
I don't really think that "being Japanese" makes for a better horror team. I've seen plenty of super-shit Japanese horror films, some that people even deem brilliant as The Ring or Ju-on, but they didn't really do much for me.
I think in the case of Silent Hill that they simply had the right people. Silent Hill Downpour had a lot of excellent and creative ideas, but the game was held back by some technicalities; I'm still under the belief that if Downpour were more polished that more people would have found it to be a pretty awesome game.
Lords of Shadow 2 on PS3 has some graphical issues that are trying to kill the experience for me, but I imagine that they don't exist in the PC version and are merely a product of outdated hardware. There was one moment with drop-dead art direction and music and scale, but then part of the background was pixellated as fucking hell and it just took me out of the grandeur of the scene.
I'm honestly thinking about finishing this game, and then kicking my PS3 to the damn curb. Most of the games I own a PS3 for are on PC, and I'm really sick of having the "shit" version of the game, at least visually.
...went off on a tangent there that is un-related-- and both somehow related-- to the post I quoted.
Beerman462
Member
I loved LoS1, but so far this game feels like Lords of Solid May Cry. Also all the bat action gives me Batman Arkham vibes. Maybe I'm just not far enough in.
I do agree that the cutscenes are decent. That said the game needs to decide to either let you play or watch a cutscene, and not intersperse them too much. I remember MGS4 was awful for that at the start (I like MGS cutscenese) in that you'd get control of Snake, move him about 5ft and then another 2 minute+ cutscene would play. Just let it be all one scene, rather than teasing me.
Ah if that's true then great. I don't mind getting a hint, but sometimes it zooms in on a glowing object, just in case you wouldn't notice it.
brandonh83
Banned
Wow. Wow. Holy. Fucking. Wow.
This
sequence has been FUCKING PHENOMENAL. The direction, the music, writing, the puzzle, this boss fight... I'm now at the point where I'm beginning to actually feel sorry for people who don't play this game.
I'm also convinced that Mercury should take on Silent Hill at this point. This game is super creative and well done.
This
ENTIRE Toy Maker
I'm also convinced that Mercury should take on Silent Hill at this point. This game is super creative and well done.
Sanctuary
Member
Just beat
, and I have to agree that so far the story is complete nonsense and the pacing is terrible. Here, let me stop fighting and trying to prevent
.
I'm also not sure why it took the Kotaku reviewer "four hours" to complete
, but after hitting the continue screen twice, I just said fuck it and exploited my way to the end. If what I did was considered an exploit anyway. That encounter was complete bullshit, and I can understand all of the hate for it. It's especially stupid when there's absolutely no explanation why
Also, what's up with Dracula's ability to
? I know how to do it, I just don't know from a story perspective why I'm doing it. I must have been completely asleep when
told me the reasoning behind it. And since you have that ability anyway, why not just go around slaughtering
So far it's the only boss that's truly interesting.
Toy Maker
the return of Satan so that my son can play with his toys
I'm also not sure why it took the Kotaku reviewer "four hours" to complete
Agreus
you can't use your powers here, but they work just fine once you exit the garden/cemetary.
Also, what's up with Dracula's ability to
travel into the past
Zobek
the acolytes, or their ancestors in the past? It just seems like you can only travel back to one specific point in time.
So far it's the only boss that's truly interesting.
brandonh83
Banned
I think you have to take the story in a manner of psychology. While it's true that you're trying to prevent
the return of Satan, I think these Trevor/Castlevania bits are... who knows how much TIME they're actually taking up, and how much of it is in his head
brandonh83
Banned
I've thought all the bosses have been great fun, but this one specifically is super cool.
Bloodworth
Member
You're not traveling into the past, you're entering Dracula's Castle which is essentially like an entirely different dimension built from Dracula's memories. Carmilla? He never met her in that form. Same for Trevor. Marie is dead. None of this stuff should be real, but they are because his mind has made them that way in the castle.
The elevator? In one of the side rooms you can turn into rats. Need to progress as them to get the power on.
Sanctuary
Member
That's kind of irrelevant.
It's the fact that Gabriel is the one deciding to take these long detours is what's unbelievable. It doesn't matter how much time has actually transpired in the real world, if it's all in his head
When do they explain that you're only traveling through his memories? Mercury Steam also said you're traveling back into the past (which might not have been meant to be taken literally). Meeting Carmilla in that form as a simple memory doesn't make any sense if you've never actually met her in that form before, and whether or not Marie is just a figment of his imagination, she does explain why she's there. The first time he sees Trevor is in the modern city anyway. The only thing that's explained as to why he's even there in the first place is because his creations would die without him and they don't want him to leave. They never explicitly state he's imagining everything up to the point in the game where I'm at now.
Probably going to play through it at least one more time just to see if what you're saying makes any sense, because the game doesn't explain it that way.
brandonh83
Banned
Yep, precisely. You put it better than I could.
this ENTIRE game aside from the modern day stuff feels incredibly psychologically driven, as if no time is actually passing and Castlevania itself is a living entity that consumes Dracula and is not necessarily a true part of the modern time-space
I think it's more like, this is what he actually cares about the most, and the forward momentum of the narrative is taking a halt to develop the character. Think of it like an episode of a TV series that doesn't move the story forward per se but rather develops a few of the characters before moving the story on. I don't consider the
Castlevania "sequences"
Obviously, whether you like or accept that or not is entirely up to you. But I like it and treat it as very extensive interludes to the modern-day plot, which I honestly don't care much about, at least not yet.
Sciences District. After some shower thing.
Yeah, you need to go in one of the side rooms. IIRC there's a busted up door you can break.
Ah, found it. Thank you.
Huh, now how do I get this Pain Box? Probably later with more abilities I'd guess.
I gotta hand it to MS, I am really liking the combat more than the original LOS. Feels a lot faster and tighter. The different sub weapons are going to come in handy on harder modes.
However, the loading screens are becoming really apparent. Also, I feel like the pop up text is becoming rather annoying, specifically when it reminds me to use my void sword every time I see a waterfall. Like, duh.
However, the loading screens are becoming really apparent. Also, I feel like the pop up text is becoming rather annoying, specifically when it reminds me to use my void sword every time I see a waterfall. Like, duh.
littlegrasshopper
Member
Quick question, played the demo and loved it but I never beat part 1. I think I got half way through the game before I stopped playing it. Do I need to beat 1 including the DLC to understand part 2?
Thanks!
Thanks!
brandonh83
Banned
It isn't a big deal. They're very short and not intrusive.
littlegrasshopper
Member
Disable clues in the menu!
brandonh83
Banned
Well, the
is one of my favorite game characters in a while.
Toy Maker
Ten-four on that suggestion.
infinityBCRT
Member
Soo... 2.5 hours in or so and I'm still enjoying it. Only have done a few rat/stealth sections so far so will have to see how much of these are there throughout the game. I think the game still looks pretty great and the music has been fantastic. And game plays well. One of my worries is that there won't be as much variety in the enemy types as there was in LoS1 just because I'm seeing the same enemies in this part of the game as there were in the Giant Bomb QL which was a little further in the game...
So far I think there was only one really bad gameplay moment
So far I think there was only one really bad gameplay moment
When the castle blood thingy first appears and the floor starts to collapse-- had to retry that a few times because it was way too hard to see where I had to go next to continue.
Sounding a lot like how the first one surprised people, which bodes well for me. I should have it hopefully tomorrow.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Im going to say this again.
If Devil May Cry has to be made by a western team again, make it be Mercury steam. They are almost there with the combat, they have a an amazing grasp on art direction, they know how to design amazing bosses and they can tell a fairly interesting story.
with a little refinement and guidance, they could by fair eclipse anything Ninja theory has achieved.
princemarth23
Member
They're not a big deal at all. They pop up every so often but only take a few minutes and are super easy.
The music continues to suck on this game. Booooooooring, boring! And Theme of Dracula is remixed at least 10 times on the same soundtrack, holy shit.
10 hours in, still pretty average (7/10 MAX). Getting buyers remorse, should have bought this for $20 or less...
I fucking hate where the story is going...
10 hours in, still pretty average (7/10 MAX). Getting buyers remorse, should have bought this for $20 or less...
I fucking hate where the story is going...
Redemption... really? FUCK THIS SHIT! I hate bad guys that turn good guys towards the ending...
I think it at least has a darker, more Castlevania-esqe soundtrack than LoS1, at the very least.
I'm currently getting the last chunk of items in the game before I tackle the final act, and I have one thing to say: fuck the Sciences District.
I'm loving the main themes he uses, but they seem to get used a lot. Not sure how big the OST is honestly.
Shmuely Bully
Member
Played through another few hours and I just have to get something off my chest: The
are awesome, I don't care what anyone says.
riot police
Full OST for LOS 2 can be found here legit -> http://www.sumthing.com/
I LOVED the LOS 1 soundtrack - one of my absolute favorites - still listen to it right now.
I have not bought LOS 2 as of yet - but definitely looking forward to this OST
I LOVED the LOS 1 soundtrack - one of my absolute favorites - still listen to it right now.
I have not bought LOS 2 as of yet - but definitely looking forward to this OST
I'm pretty biased towards this type of music... I don't think they are anything special, outside of fitting the game pacing. I prefer powerful, memorable melodies than this ambient type of soundtrack. Reason why I hate almost every recent modern soundtrack...
But I know I'm not really the rule.
Anyway, thank god for Dodo Eggs. Some secrets are a bitch to remember where they are, so having this item is pretty good. BTW, try to always carry some Dungeon Keys with you, as they are needed for completion.
Break everything too, as you'll find artwork pieces there now.
But I know I'm not really the rule.
Anyway, thank god for Dodo Eggs. Some secrets are a bitch to remember where they are, so having this item is pretty good. BTW, try to always carry some Dungeon Keys with you, as they are needed for completion.
Break everything too, as you'll find artwork pieces there now.
Do I feel.. positivity? Wait, you're liking the game?
Imagine the part you'll want to humilliate your worst enemy in if you were Satan.
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The throne room. The church.
Bloodworth
Member
Yeah, it's a super weird moment, just run around and start killing things. You'll get a waypoint eventually.
It ends by the church where you started though. Arts district I believe.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
From what i understand:
There are actually two Castles, one in the real world is in ruins and the city was created above its foundations, that's why we can see places like the map room that originally belonged to Dracula's Castle.
The other Castle is in another dimension, i assume its where Dracula's source of power is located. Marie, child Trevor and Carmilla aren't real, they were created by Dracula's power and its memories and his desire to leave the Castle once and for all.
The other Castle is in another dimension, i assume its where Dracula's source of power is located. Marie, child Trevor and Carmilla aren't real, they were created by Dracula's power and its memories and his desire to leave the Castle once and for all.
Bloodworth
Member
I remember
one of the soldier's diaries made it pretty clear regarding Carmilla
FrostuTheNinja
Member
Just beat
. Yeah, I think I'm going to enjoy this.
Medusathulu