*insert trophy wife joke here*Meanwhile, in Texas:
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Cecil the lion's brother, Jericho, is alive and well
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Cheesehead9099
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The worst part about these kinds of occurrences is the morally superior sages who come in and proclaim "you only care now!!11!1 this was happening before!1! children dying! people starving!" as if it somehow falsifies the outrage people are expressing.
Newsflash - the public is not aware of most of the issues that go on in the world, and that is a fact. You can blame the media if you want, but it doesn't mean your average joe's anger is somehow less impactful because you know about more of the world's problems than he does. If any news story every brings attention to these issues, it is CATEGORICALLY a GOOD thing. Yes, there are tons of other horrible things happening on the planet, but that doesn't mean people cant be angry about this one thing they DO know about.
Newsflash - the public is not aware of most of the issues that go on in the world, and that is a fact. You can blame the media if you want, but it doesn't mean your average joe's anger is somehow less impactful because you know about more of the world's problems than he does. If any news story every brings attention to these issues, it is CATEGORICALLY a GOOD thing. Yes, there are tons of other horrible things happening on the planet, but that doesn't mean people cant be angry about this one thing they DO know about.
RetrospectiveLamb
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Just disgusting and heart wrenching news
We're nothing but trash.
Yeah that public execution post was pretty scary.
TheCashIsMine
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Ugh. I hate people.
So you hate yourself ?
This is sad but I don't understand all of the "i hate humanity/humans are trash" posts. Why judge yourself based on the crimes of others ?
FunkyMunkey
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crossing my fingers!
wait people aren't allowed to care unless they can find the related country on a map or know about the issue before it hits televised media?
exactly
Valtýr;173772282 said:
no you see unless you started caring approximately 12 hours after the first report (this can change based on time of day and timezone), your relative potential care-value diminishes 1-2% each day that passes before you care
BreezyLimbo
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I found the "we should put the hunter for display in a zoo" worse. Like I cringed at how bad that post was.
speculawyer
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Meanwhile, in Texas:
I just don't get that. This is not the 19th century. Who's impressed by a dolt that shoots large mammals? Seems like one of those over compensating things.
We didn't care until it was reported in America to Americans on American news? I'd imagine that's how most of Americans obtain world news.
DiipuSurotu
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Maybe the report is that the Palestinian city of Jericho, not Jericho the lion, has been massacred. #blackhumor
Phat Michael
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What point are you trying to make?
How can you measure how much someone cared about an issue?
Are you angry you knew about Zimbabwe before the rest of the world did?
I hope that this is true.
I apologies for my overreaction but i was really, really mad. It was more like wish for big punishment than calling for public execution. I am huge animal lover from ants to elephants.
GamePnoy74
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He was protecting cecils 24 cubs from the other males
From what I understood wildlife experts were expecting Jericho to eventually pull a Scar and destroy Cecil's pride...?
From a CNN article:
Arrogant Bastard
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Not at all, just think this is outrage culture. People will stop caring about this as soon as the next situation rolls in.
Because people don't give a shit unless it is being shoved in their face, that is entirely my point.
I find it hard to believe that people didn't know about exotic game hunting, poaching, etc. before this. It just wasn't in their face 24hrs a day, because of that they really didn't concern themselves with it.
I'm torn down, literally torn down over how right and wrong you are.
thing is. People should be outraged about things. You talk about outrage culture, but people are being constantly milked and drained of their outrage, their will to stand and fight for themselves and what they believe in. and then they are just tools and drones. Fight for whatever you tell them to, and will think whatever you put in their heads.
It's a possibilty, but there was also the assumption that he might raise the cups as his own.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/31/world/zimbabwe-cecil-lion-dentist/
With a new alpha male that's not related to the cups at all that would be pretty unlikely to happen
WickedLaharl
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Please be alive.
Doing that would probably cause tension between the US and wherever they're extending their influence into that the next person can use as leverage to say "LOOK HOW BAD OBAMA FUCKED UP!"
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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I'm not saying have the U.S. do it unilaterally, but making a speech urging such a thing from the UN might give it traction.
I'm all for non-intervention in matters human, but animals don't deserve to suffer because of human failures (read: imperialistic colonialism) that have resulted in the countries responsible for their stewardship being far too poor to adequately protect them from poaching assholes.
spindashing
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GamePnoy74
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Thanks, I didn't see that CNN article, yo.
ultratruman
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All is right with the world again.
People can only give a shit when they actually know about it tho. A person will never know everything that is going on in the world it is impossible. I see people being annoyed/ outraged at bad things happening in the world as a good thing. It brings attention to the problem and it can also help (even if it is only a little bit).
You know that there are phases in the outrage or handling bad news or in handling the things that bother us, right? If people would be constantly outraged at the same level for everything that happen to then during their whole life there wouldn't be any mentally same human on this planet.
And regarding posts about not caring if it is not in media etc. For example i am familiar with many issues around the world. From police brutality against black people in US, to serious rape issues in Inda, or lack of food and water in many African countries, suicide bombings and constant fear in Middle East, fire hazards in Australia, big issues with corrupted governments around the world etc. But in many cases most of us can't do too much like in this case with Cecil.
Last year here in my country and neighbor countries flooding was serious issue and many families lost their homes. I went to Red Cross and offered my help, i donated food and other things that they told me, i was in team that delivered food and water in my city, my friends were helping too etc. When we can do something to help most of us will do it. Other times we will comment on news where we can't help.
Last year here in my country and neighbor countries flooding was serious issue and many families lost their homes. I went to Red Cross and offered my help, i donated food and other things that they told me, i was in team that delivered food and water in my city, my friends were helping too etc. When we can do something to help most of us will do it. Other times we will comment on news where we can't help.
Askherserenity
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lol at some people here telling us not to be outraged. Good job. The fact that this shit keeps happening is because no one fucking gives a shit and you want people to continue not giving a fuck about preservation?
It's fine if you don't feel anything for other animals but not giving a fuck about humans just getting rid of other species just for fucking fun is just disgusting.
Why shouldn't people get upset? Because they care about something you don't give a shit about?
It's fine if you don't feel anything for other animals but not giving a fuck about humans just getting rid of other species just for fucking fun is just disgusting.
Why shouldn't people get upset? Because they care about something you don't give a shit about?
Doctor West
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I can't even. Fucking hunters are the scum of the earth.
Arrogant Bastard
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Nm.
Killing_Joke
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I literally just read the article where he was keeping Cecils cubs safe. Hopefully the rumor is bullshit.
I immediately thought of that scene, lol
RustyNails
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It is more like "Look at my mastery over all the animals!" Alpha macho bullshit fueled largely in part by a colonialist I can and will do fuck I want anywhere mentality and also fueled in part by self esteem issues regarding micropenis.
DiipuSurotu
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What if Jericho was really killed but the officials have replaced him with another lion to cover up the outrage?
PeskyToaster
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The universe has a morbid sense of humor. It's kind of funny if you think about it. Everyone is outraged and just to show that nothing matters, his brother is killed too.
maniac-kun
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Hunters are going to be responsible for a lot of extinct species in Africa. Disgusting scumbags.
Makoto Yuki
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Pretty sure people who are saying "I hate humanity/humans are trash post" aren't going around killing endangered animals. So no, posters don't hate themselves, they hate the parts of humanity that are more savage than the animals they hunt.
I for one find this disgusting, I hope Jericho is alright.
I'm no psychologist but this sounds like a legit reason why so called people hunt for "sport." Look I killed these beasts! I'm so powerful! I hope these trophies overshadow my insecurities.
Black Republican
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i hope someone yell out Riiiickyyyyyyy
It's not an accident that these trophy hunters are high-powered business-people - they're known to be hugely insecure, which fuels the "more more more" stuff.
Black Republican
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what family?
Bam Bam Baklava
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Person makes post about how the death penalty should be used in response to this. I enlighten that person as to how backwards their thinking is and how little it will do to solve the root of the problem.
Where's the issue?
Actually putting them in an old timey zoo would be kind of ironic. Maybe a circus, act, too. I dunno, I think it's high time the world's justice systems looked at lion-themed punishments as more than just lobbing Christians into dens.
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