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[teh_pwn]

That's great, I've still yet to see any links indicating a nationwide trend.

 

[KeithFranklin]

OK

http://www.xbox365.com/news/news.cgi/article/EEpkpkAkkVEjSPGIhB9225

http://www.bdgamer.net/?itemid=15176

http://www.winnetmag.com/Article/ArticleID/44875/44875.html

http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?t=30590

 

[Cubsfan23]

Dreamcasts are selling better than Gamecube at my Pawn Shop.

 

[thorns]

If the hardware numbers are true then YTD for the three systems:

PS2 4,612,000 (42%)
Xbox 4,081,000 (38%)
GC 2,143,000 (20%)

 

[Scrow]

Xbox best selling console in Nov&Dec

only because everyone has already bought a PS2

 

[AniHawk]

I havent seen an XBOX in a retail store since before Thanksgiving. This include multiple trips to multiple Best Buys, Circuit City, WalMart, GameStop, EB Games, multiple TRU, multiple Target's, Orland Square Mall, Oakbrook Mall, Old Orchard Mall and Yorktown Mall all around the Chicago suburbs.

You were doing that because you wanted to buy one, right?

 

[Broshnat]

Well I dunno about anyone else, but 670k for cube vs about 1m for PS2 and XB is a result for GC as far as I'm concerned. No Mario Kart this year, no price drops, no Halo 2 or GTA:SA.

I think those are some great GC numbers considering. When you add about 800k for DS and probably about 1.2m for GBA then that's not bad going at all.

 

[AniHawk]

Well, 666k beats my estimate of 500k by quite a bit, but it's still poor. I think Nintendo realized that their best chance would be to lay low this year instead of going up against those two monsters, so they released some decent (for them) sellers to kinda lure some people in and keep the system alive until 2005. Looks like this year will most likely be the last hurrah for the Gamecube if SM128, Zelda, and Fire Emblem all make it out (much like 2000 for the N64).

 

[JayFro]

only because everyone has already bought a PS2

If everyone already has a PS2 why did it sell nearly a million units in December alone with massive shortages. This excuse is just bunk, clearly everyone that wants a PS2 doesn't have one. If that was the case it would be moving almost nothing each month.

The only company that really benefited from PS2 and Xbox shortages was Nintendo and the Gamecube. Shame shame on Sony and MS for not meeting the demand of the consumers.

 

[KeithFranklin]

You were doing that because you wanted to buy one, right?

Nope...Just curious on that and was already shopping at the stores so why not check. Especially because we talk about this on these forums.

 

[JJConrad]

I can't find the hardware sales for November 2003, only December 2003.

Place post November if you have it....I guess I can extrapolate November from the percent changes.

DECEMBER 2003
PS2: 1,970,000 [+132% over November sales] (~849K in November)
Xbox: 1,122,000 [+129%] (~489K in November)
GCN: 1,163,000 [+54%] (~755K in November)

HOLIDAY 2003
PS2: 2,819,000
Xbox: 1,631,000
GCN: 1,918,000

HOLIDAY 2004
PS2 = 2,819,000 * .6 = 1,691,400
Xbox = 1,631,000 * 1.11 = 1,810,410
Cube = 1,918,000 * .53 = 1,016,540

If these numbers are in at all close to accurate, then its really depressing. Despite lower prices, the console market went from 6 million units down to 4.5 million units. This is a time period in which sales should still be climbing. I hope this trend doesn't continue.

 

[rastex]

While hardware sales are lower Year-on-Year, I bet software sales have increased overall compared to last year. While not *everyone* who wants a console has one, the majority do and so we're seeing the tail-end decline of this generation. I gaurantee console sales next year will be far lower as well, which may indicate the market is ready for the new generations of consoles /queue MS.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

(Extrapolated) December 2004 NPD

PS2: 997,400 (43.7% increase over November)
Xbox: 1,064,410 (42.6% increase over November)
Cube: 666,540 (90% increase over November)

The November-to-December increases are interesting, especially compared to last year. In 2003, PS2 and Xbox doubled their sales and then some while Cube barely squeaked a 50% increase.

This year, PS2 and Xbox couldn't even managed a 50% month-over-month jump, while Cube sales nearly doubled. I guess those shortages were really nasty, and a lot of frustrated parents ended up buying a Cube.

I think it's more that the $79 GCN Black Friday sales made GCN's November 2003 numbers unnaturally high, so the jump to December appeared smaller.

If those extrapolated numbers are correct, though... wow that's a big drop all around. #1 and #2 don't even quite match up with last year's #2 and #3. I wonder how much is due to shortages, and how much is due to DS?

December's hardware ratios would be 39.0% Xbox, 36.6% PS2, 24.4% GCN.