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Chemistry experts: Can I kill myself by peeing? (PLUS cleaning tip!)

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As chronicled in the recent "Ask Jinx" thread, mixing ammonia and bleach produces a gaseous chlorine ion that, if inhaled, will result in a nasty, painful death.

I have learned that a hassle-free way to clean out the nasty toilet bowl grime that forms around the waterline is just to pour in a 1/4 cup of bleach. Let it sit for 10-15 minutes and all the grime disappears. Flush it down and you've got a clean toilet bowl for the next few weeks. No muss, no fuss, no scrubbing.

But what happens if I forget to flush and the ammonia in urine mixes with the bleach in the toilet bowl? Will the presence of water result in a different chemical reaction, or will the toxic chlorine gas still be produced?

2NaOCl + 2NH3 + H2O --> ????
 

Tenguman

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I remember my mother using bleach to clean out the bowl and I would wake up around 10am, take a piss and almost pass out from the fumes.

But I don't think there is enough "purity" in both commercial bleach and urine to actually kill you.
 
Ok, what if I were to fill someone's toilet with bleach? Like, drain the water and replace it with bleach. I rig the toilet so it doesn't flush, and lock said person in. THAT would kill someone, right?
 

tenchir

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Manabanana said:
Ok, what if I were to fill someone's toilet with bleach? Like, drain the water and replace it with bleach. I rig the toilet so it doesn't flush, and lock said person in. THAT would kill someone, right?

Is there someone you want to kill?
 

karasu

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Man I mixed ammonia and bleach at work once, that shit was awful. It was like someone set my eyes on fire and my lungs were made of chili beans.
 

Vormund

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:lol What's with some of these topics? Do you want to create a chemical cocktail in someone's toilet so when they take a piss, they blow up?
 

B'z-chan

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Vormund said:
:lol What's with some of these topics? Do you want to create a chemical cocktail in someone's toilet so when they take a piss, they blow up?

That can be arranged. Urine conducts electricity all you would need is a static charge strong enough to light the gas. Very cool idea.
 
Shit, you guys figured me out. I'll spill. I work for Leguna. Which mod this technique will be used on, however, will not be told. UNBAN LEGUNA OR GET THE CLEANEST TOILET THIS SIDE OF THE OT.
 

Phoenix

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LOL, no I'm afraid you're SOL. The concentrations aren't enough to kill someone. They'd have to smell the fumes and sit in them for a considerable amout of time.

Think about it this way, in our litigious society - there would be 50 warnings on bleach bottles (which many use to clean toilets and is in lots of toilet cleaners) if using it near urine were to be fatal.
 

Miguel

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B'z-chan said:
That can be arranged. Urine conducts electricity all you would need is a static charge strong enough to light the gas. Very cool idea.

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Sounds like a job for us...
 

andthebeatgoeson

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Not enough ammonia in urine. Sorry. But if you mix Mr. Clean and regular bleach, it'll clear you sinuses something awful. I can only imagine if they were more concentrated.
 
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