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Chicken on factory farms routinely fed caffeine, banned antibiotics, and even arsenic
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Al-ibn Kermit
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For taste or some other reason? I generally support the agricultural methods that simply yield the most food for the least resources, all other things being equal. By the time we're getting hip replacements, we'll have 15 billion mouths and I don't see people cutting back on meat anytime soon.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Taste and because the way the chickens reared, incredibly cruel.
Also the 15 billion mouths will mostly be in the Asia region, no excuse for the way we are farming now.
Winnie the Pimp
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to each their own reasons, i really don't even taste THAT Much of a difference, but then it's been years since i ate non organic regular supermarket chicken hmmm forgot what that tasted like i guess..
personally i buy organic/free range because if there is even just slightly less crap inside then it was worth it imo
Have you done research into free-range?
Because I get the feeling that people are exploiting your good intentions by charging higher prices for what *you* think is a better product.
Because free range... is a meaningless label - as in, there is no legal definition and requirement for it.
But in practice, it simply means chickens that aren't battery farmed.
Sounds good right? Until you realize the reality is: The chickens are grown in an open coop with similar densities to battery chicken farming (it's lower, but if you're imagining chickens roaming free on green fields, then the reality is far closer to battery farming).
So these chickens are shoved into incredibly crowded coops... and pretty much their lives involve pecking, shoving, clawing at each other in order to get a little space for themselves. They have to be pumped with more antibiotics, because they're more prone to infections because of all the clawing.
It's a sad reality we live in... but you know... the most efficienct form of protein... insect protein... is something that a lot of people would rather starve than eat. Like, we've just been trained as a culture to think that insects aren't food - when the truth is, they're an extremely viable form of protein.
Xdrive05
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We do free range too, so my $0.02. Reasons:
1) Better quality, especially beef and pork.
2) Supporting state/local economy by buying from in-state farm.
3) Ethically better for the animals.
4) Grass fed, so no BS addatives and antibiotics.
5) Not that much more expensive than the factory farmed product, especially if you buy in bulk and freeze.
I've got no particular bitch with factory farming, but I support better regulations for health and quality, better treatment too.
And while I'm at it, you people should kill your own deer.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
The one's I buy have this as standard
Farms are independently audited.
Growth promoting hormones and growth promoting antibiotics are not permitted.
Beak trimming, toe trimming, de-snooding or any other mutilations are not permitted.
Continuous dim lighting may be used.
Stocking density indoors must not exceed 11 birds per square metre.
Birds have easy access to an area on which to range during daylight hours.
If they have access to the outside and room to walk around and stuff I'm ok. Being cooped for their whole life is messed up.
Price isn't a problem, extra few bucks is nothing.
Luckily Australia isn't so messed up with beef.
Farms are independently audited.
Growth promoting hormones and growth promoting antibiotics are not permitted.
Beak trimming, toe trimming, de-snooding or any other mutilations are not permitted.
Continuous dim lighting may be used.
Stocking density indoors must not exceed 11 birds per square metre.
Birds have easy access to an area on which to range during daylight hours.
If they have access to the outside and room to walk around and stuff I'm ok. Being cooped for their whole life is messed up.
Price isn't a problem, extra few bucks is nothing.
Luckily Australia isn't so messed up with beef.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
Yeah the water content is shit, try fry it in a pan and you end up boiling it.
Bulbo Urethral Baggins
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Tabloid journalism.
The NY Times must really be suffering.
The NY Times must really be suffering.
You might want to look up the legal definition of free range. All they have to do is give them access to the outside. There's no actual guidelines or requirements for length of time or space. It's almost as useless a term as "all natural" chicken.
Edit: Oops! I've been Zapped
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
There are guide lines in Aus. Around 750-1000 chickens per hectare, not too much but better than nothing.
Xdrive05
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That's right, and it's similar to the "organic" label in that way. We need common sense revision of those official terms so they actual mean something significant. That's why, IMO, it's better to buy in bulk from a farm whose detailed practices are published.
Informed consumers, yo.
nelsonroyale
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Disgusting that we let this continue...
Hilarious that some people think there is an objective right to life based on intelligence..of course there is no bloody right to life, there is a recognition of the right to life...it has social utillity for humans and ties in with aspect such as empathy etc... So many people in the west eat all sorts of shitty meat and would gag at the idea of killing an animal themselves. Its somewhat pathetic....
Hilarious that some people think there is an objective right to life based on intelligence..of course there is no bloody right to life, there is a recognition of the right to life...it has social utillity for humans and ties in with aspect such as empathy etc... So many people in the west eat all sorts of shitty meat and would gag at the idea of killing an animal themselves. Its somewhat pathetic....
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