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Child mauled to death at Pittsburgh Zoo
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CrunchyFrog
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n64coder
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In the video, it seems that the exhibit was under some sort of construction after the accident. I wonder if they were going to frame it such that windows block all openings or more mesh. Stupid parent.
Reminds me of this incident with Michael Jackson although fortunately, nothing bad happened to the baby.
Reminds me of this incident with Michael Jackson although fortunately, nothing bad happened to the baby.
On one hand, the mother should not be allowed to care for children again, for fear that she could another child in danger again. On the other hand, the pain of seeing her 2-year-old child mauled in front of her is probably punishment enough.
Reminds me of the mother a few months back who forgot her kid in the back of her car and then spent the entire day working at her office... just to get back to the car at 5 pm to find her kid dead from heat stroke.
What does the law say for people like this? Charge them with manslaughter or just let them be?
Reminds me of the mother a few months back who forgot her kid in the back of her car and then spent the entire day working at her office... just to get back to the car at 5 pm to find her kid dead from heat stroke.
What does the law say for people like this? Charge them with manslaughter or just let them be?
I guess usually they wouldn't be aggressive, but if they consider the boy as their "food" it would probably be really dangerous to try to separate him from them. Even my Golden Retriever turns into a wild animal when you try to take his food away.
Ace Harding
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Sounds like it is possible the kid died from the fall first. I hope that is the case, or at least that he was completely knocked out for any mauling. The thought of of him being essentially eaten alive is absolutely terrifying.
Have you guys seen that video where the young kid fell into the gorilla cage? Better outcome in that situation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihUGT7MdDB4
Have you guys seen that video where the young kid fell into the gorilla cage? Better outcome in that situation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihUGT7MdDB4
No excuse. Irresponsible and idiotic.
My opinion just another example of people thinking rules are stupid and don't apply to them combined with lack of awareness of consequences.
No, rules are made because as a society we learn from mistakes and put safeguards in place to prevent more tragedy
Head of Vengarl
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The mother made a horrible mistake, and she's going to have to live with the consequence for the rest of her life. As stupid and preventable as it was, I wouldn't wish that kind of torture on anyone.
I really hope you don't have kids.
I really hope you don't have kids.
You make is sound like she had an abortion, she didn't.
Zeus Molecules
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If it could of saved the child they should of shot every damn dog there
You make it sound like abortions are mistakes, theyre not.
I disagree with this. 11 endangered mammals for one human child? Bad trade.
You don't have kids.
Demoncarnotaur
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Yeah, they should have just let the dogs eat the body, right?
Its a sad situation that a dog had to die, for sure, but in this situation it is totally understandable.
Alligatorjandro
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What if it were you?
evil solrac v3.0
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why should the dogs get the brunt end of it?
no need to shoot. darts aren't catch all and you need right dosage and such. loud noises or sometimes even charging them is enough to scare them away.
actually I would hope you wouldn't put your daughter over the railing so you wouldn't have to make the choice of jumping in.
it's her fault.
there was no wire mesh there, but there's a 14 foot drop.
that's just as dumb.
so only people who have kids feel compassion now? you the only arbiters of what should be done in any situation?
evil solrac v3.0
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that's dumb. you're already dead from the fall. humans aren't gods, they're supposed to be part of this world. sometimes we die in stupid ways.
Not at all, but speaking from personal experience, having kids changed me drastically, to the point where it's no longer possible for me to respond to a question like this without considering the well being of my children first answer foremost.
I'd eliminate an entire species of dog to save them, no question. This coming from a vegetarian that values animal life greatly.
I'd eliminate an entire species of dog to save them, no question. This coming from a vegetarian that values animal life greatly.
Hari Seldon
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The zoo is in deep shit. There is only a handful of exhibits there where you can possibly "fall in". Off the top of my head, the sea lions, the beaver, and that is about it. A couple of exhibits you could easily break in to if you were an unsupervised 13 year old or something, but those are just like the camel and the lama and that stuff. The large cats and bears all have either safety glass or a large ditch that wouldn't be possible to circumvent.
Apparently these dogs are the most dangerous exhibit there and they had none of these additional safety measures. I agree that it is largely the Mom's fault, however a lawyer will have a field day with this. There is only 1 layer of safety in this exhibit unlike all of the other dangerous animals. This is compounded by the fact that I'm guessing the majority of people don't know how dangerous these animals are, since daily exposure to dogs is of the domesticated variety.
Apparently these dogs are the most dangerous exhibit there and they had none of these additional safety measures. I agree that it is largely the Mom's fault, however a lawyer will have a field day with this. There is only 1 layer of safety in this exhibit unlike all of the other dangerous animals. This is compounded by the fact that I'm guessing the majority of people don't know how dangerous these animals are, since daily exposure to dogs is of the domesticated variety.
If the dogs don't like it, they can do the same to us when they build their zoos and put humans in them.
Hari Seldon
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Kid was alive after the fall according to news reports I have seen. He bounced off of the cell phone catcher fence thing which broke his fall and he really only fell like 6 feet onto dirt.
Alligatorjandro
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its just an animal.
evil solrac v3.0
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well I have people that I care greatly about too. but i'm not going on a killing spree against animals. i'm just not, and I think deep down you know you're not.
we're all animals.
Yup. Big money coming the mom's way.
Well, I'm no lawyer, but the simple fact that the mother put her child in a position where he could fall into the exhibit would make me think that the Zoo is not at all to blame. The safety measures that were in place would have been sufficient if it wasn't for the mother putting her child on the railing.
Good Job Bob
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I don't get it, so you wouldn't kill a few animals to save someone you cared about? You'd just stand there watching them get mauled to death?
Demoncarnotaur
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Pretty sure you could 'fall' into the Lions, Tigers and Bear exhibits, but you would be in a deep concrete ditch that would likely kill you from the fall. The kid wasn't looking over a railing, he was being hoisted on top of it by a parent.. that is a big no-no when it comes to child safety.
I agree. Honestly I think the mother should be investigated for child negligence.
Hari Seldon
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Im sure she would trade all the money in the world to have her son back.
evil solrac v3.0
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no, but I don't like hyperbole and I sure as hell think it's never an either or situation as so many people think. basically take extra precaution with your damn kid! why put any 3-year old over any railing, ever? for any reason? hell most 3-year olds aren't even old enough to appreciate teh zoo to begin with.
She wouldn't have to if she were a responsible person.
zeioIIDX
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I was just at the zoo in Colorado with my 3 year old last weekend :/ It's always horrible to hear things like this. To be honest, it kinda just ruined the rest of my night, I'm a little depressed now. I wish things like this didn't happen to people/parents. I can't begin to imagine would the parents are going through...
That's not true.
bluelightningduo
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Agreed, the comparative negligence in this is off the charts.
oneils
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This is the enclosure.
Looks like there is a mesh barrier on top of the railing. I guess the kid got onto the railing, and fell through the mesh. I don't think any adult humans would be able to get through that mesh and into the exhibit.
edit: oops, missed the better picture in post 281.
I H8 Memes
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This is the enclosure.
Looks like there is a mesh barrier on top of the railing. I guess the kid got onto the railing, and fell through the mesh. I don't think any adult humans would be able to get through that mesh and into the exhibit.
Not in the middle section. The mom stood the kid up on the railing and let go of him. He fell in almost immediately.
oneils
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So which railing? I can't really see any other than those in the enclosure. Other than that all I see is a metal fence surrounding the exhibit? Is there a railing that is not really easily seen from these photos?
edit: oh, there is no mesh in the middle section of the enclosure? Is that what you mean? if so, WOW!
Hari Seldon
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oneils
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The middle one as illustrated here:
Holy shit. Thanks for that. Wow. Why put a mesh up for all the other railings instead of that one? weird.
A lot of animal enclosures have that feature. It lets guests take photographs.
The only criminal charges should be to the parent for child endangerment.
Seems like the zoo has reasonable security, and there must be posted signs as well. At some point the people have to take responsibility and not put it all on the zoo. Reasonable security is the key. The zoo isn't responsible for blatant stupidity.
Seems like the zoo has reasonable security, and there must be posted signs as well. At some point the people have to take responsibility and not put it all on the zoo. Reasonable security is the key. The zoo isn't responsible for blatant stupidity.
SeaOfMadness
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I agree with you completely. Sadly, the lawyers will find a way to make the zoo responsible. I guarantee it.
That mom should have never had her kid stand up there, and if she did, should have been holding on so tight to keep him from moving, let alone falling. Just stupid, stupid, stupid.
SeaOfMadness
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FTFY
That's a bit much without knowing anything else about her.
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